#1063875 - 06/18/24 01:57 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
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6/18/2024
I tuned to another "dog and pony show", thinking I might get to ask a question or two, nope the general public was "shut out", just got to listen to more WDFW current philosophy on why a dozen NT gill netters needed more time to net, if the QIN netting schedule was 4 days a week, SO THEY COULD GET A BIGGER SHARE OF THE FISH.
Nothing said about the increase in sport fishers numbers up river, needing a fair share of fish, so that those that pay the vast amount of $$$$$ get a chance to catch a fish.... back to the "old days", forget about "buy back", also WDFW seems to forget about 90% of the fish caught in Willapa are gill net caught.
Its past time to have the only gillnet fishing in the Chehalis/Humptulips, Tribal. We don't need to have the Chehalis tribe, the QIN, and a handful of NT gill netting, a diminishing resource.
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#1063876 - 06/18/24 03:44 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/15/03
Posts: 704
Loc: Olympia
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It should be crystal clear to all that sportfishing is never a concern for our managers. They are so busy kissing commercial asses that they can't see us down by the other bottom feeders. I am so close to never buying a license here again and just start fishing for Washington fish in Alaska like I used to. Pathetic
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#1063877 - 06/18/24 04:54 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 1361
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I just don't get why if they open it for any netting, also open it for recs? All of the harbor! Not these stupid exclusive zones? If it's nettable, it's hook & linable and C&R able. Open up the south channel all fall to give us a chance? We can't make that much of impact to prevent such. Or am I wrong?
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#1063878 - 06/18/24 08:22 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6193
Loc: zipper
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6/18/2024
Its past time to have the only gillnet fishing in the Chehalis/Humptulips, Tribal. We don't need to have the Chehalis tribe, the QIN, and a handful of NT gill netting, a diminishing resource.
QIN only! get the NT's out for good
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#1063879 - 06/18/24 09:21 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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Registered: 03/06/14
Posts: 273
Loc: Tumwater
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If you notice, there's going to be a new governor next year. We need to get off our asses and make sure we get the right one elected. It takes money and campaigning. Do you think another Democrat will change anything?
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#1063880 - 06/19/24 07:05 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/06/07
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Semi Bird doen't stand a chance in this state. Dave Reichert would have had a chance if the GOP would have endorsed him. Splitting the GOP vote just hands it over to the Democrats again. The GOP needs to pull their head out of their ass, put there party platform aside, and endorse an electable moderate candidate. They have one in Reichert.
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#1063881 - 06/19/24 08:01 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
[Re: RUNnGUN]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/06/14
Posts: 273
Loc: Tumwater
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RNG,
I absolutely agree with your assessment of the GOP. My hope is for Reichert because he is electable in King County from past history (Sheriff, Congress). I got to meet him two weeks ago and passed on a paper outlining some fishery issues, plus commenting on how the Commission has morphed into an anti organization to sportsmen (and women). He listened. Bird is a yahoo. Reichert CAN be elected. He just needs to get thru the primary. Salmon anglers in our state continue to fail to grasp what could be. If all of us would donate twenty bucks to a pro fishing organization, we could have control of our fishing fate. But we don't. Lobbyists make a difference, and donations mean a lot. We could do all of that. It takes money.
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#1063882 - 06/19/24 09:30 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13397
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Reichert was potentially electable until he was taped saying he can't say he's voting for Trump because that would be the kiss of death to his campaign in western WA. Well, the tape has been leaked, so I expect his W WA campaign is all but dead. Further, I heard him on an interview week before last. He is Mr. Bland with no action plan. Oh, he's all about public safety, taxes, and a few other hot political topices, but he had not one single action item he could share with the public. Perfect politician, not gonna' say something that might offend a voter. OTOH, Mark Mullet, a D, was interviewed the day before Reichert, and appears to be the definition of a moderate. Not that I agree with everything he said, but it looks like he opposes the extremism elements of both the Ds and Rs. I'd like to see him on the ballot in Nov. Problem is that he has 1/5 the $$ that Furgie has, so it will be an uphill battle. Imagine bringing a moderate view to WDFW, acknowledging that the 20th century is over, and most commercial fisheries have gone the way of the doo doo bird.
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#1063883 - 06/19/24 09:50 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/06/14
Posts: 273
Loc: Tumwater
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Salmo,
I disagree with you, but that's okay. We'll see how it all turns out. I agree with you that Mullet is a moderate but the Dems have been the party that's ruined much of what is valuable to me: Public safety, rampant drug use, high taxes, fishing, etc. I'll keep in touch with the Reichert campaign.
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#1063884 - 06/19/24 05:31 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4402
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
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I have a question; does anyone know why the Regional Fish Program Director Mr. Lossee is not running the GH Policy review? We had two Region 6 Bios make a rather disjointed presentation to the commission then it was mostly the cabal in the concrete palace in Olympia. My impression is that I doubt the Commission will get the information from staff to even start to understand Grays Harbor. Couple that with Mr. Addicks apparent belief that the WDFW expert staff should have full say and public be damned which appears to be the general view under Director Kelly Susewind. Add in net the crap out of everything Fish Program Director Kelly Cunningham I don’t see anything good coming from this process. Certainly not like 10 years ago with Steve Thiesfeld running Region 6 Fish program. Damn I miss that guy he was a straight shooter ….. one of the good guys.
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#1063886 - 06/22/24 11:07 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4402
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
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I am not sure beholden is the correct word but uninformed might be better. I have not been around the Commission much the last 10 years but this I know, the Fish Committee does not appear to have the knowledge fish of issues that existed with Larry Carpenter and other Commissioners. The reform principles in WDFW from the 90s have run out of gas and these guys are a blast from the past.
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#1063894 - 06/23/24 12:01 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4402
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I thought we could use a little humor!
SIX RULES TO REMEMBER IN LIFE: 1. Money can't buy happiness - but it's far more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle. 2. Forgive your enemy - but remember the SOB’s name. 3. If you help someone when they're in trouble - they will remember you when they're in trouble again. 4. Alcohol does not solve any problems - but then, neither does milk. 5. Many people are alive today only because it's illegal to shoot them. 6. No matter how rich you are, no matter how generous you are, no matter how good you look, the number of people who attend your funeral will depend on the weather at the cemetery, if there's an open bar at the wake, or if there’s a free meal after the funeral.
BONUS RULES: 1. Condoms do not guarantee safe sex! A friend of mine was wearing one when he was shot by the woman's husband. 2. I think all politicians should wear uniforms. You know, like NASCAR drivers, so we can identify all their corporate sponsors. 3. Also, all politicians should serve only two terms -- one in office and one in prison. This is a public service announcement.
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#1063895 - 06/23/24 12:46 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
[Re: Rivrguy]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/06/14
Posts: 273
Loc: Tumwater
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Amen! You might add another:
They only read the plan at your court martial.
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#1063898 - 06/24/24 09:37 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7447
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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Read the Plan? I seem to remember that all they were for was to have. You could point to it and say we have one. Never need to use it, though.
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