Registered: 03/08/99
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Originally Posted By: eddie
With our President signing his Executive Order today, it has become obvious that this whole deal, described as being the Democrat's fault, Obama, Bush, yada yada yada, was nothing more than a ploy to get Congress to fund the wall using these kids as pawns. You know, the one that Mexico was going to pay for! He has totally pissed me off and for me, I don't think he can ever gain my trust. End of rant!
The fact that anyone could question this conclusion at all shows just how effective the Republican's anti-education agenda has been...especially when Trump said as much himself.
I'm going to make a wild guess here Salmo. No one would ever want the guns you own.
Ouch! Not sure how your response is connected to my Feinstein-Trump comparison. But hey, are you sayin' there's no demand for my Gamo Swarm? Most people don't shoot custom machined, one-off products like you. You needn't be so hard on us commoners who harbor everyday Winchesters, Sigs, and Rugers.
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Originally Posted By: Black Bart
I'm going to make a wild guess here Salmo. No one would ever want the guns you own.
Ouch! Not sure how your response is connected to my Feinstein-Trump comparison. But hey, are you sayin' there's no demand for my Gamo Swarm? Most people don't shoot custom machined, one-off products like you. You needn't be so hard on us commoners who harbor everyday Winchesters, Sigs, and Rugers.
Better get em loaded and handy. Dem gun grabbers iz a cuming.
With our President signing his Executive Order today, it has become obvious that this whole deal, described as being the Democrat's fault, Obama, Bush, yada yada yada, was nothing more than a ploy to get Congress to fund the wall using these kids as pawns. You know, the one that Mexico was going to pay for! He has totally pissed me off and for me, I don't think he can ever gain my trust. End of rant!
Trump isn't the captain of a rudderless ship; he's the captain of a ship with the rudder stuck on WRONG. The majority of voters capable of reading the second line of the Snellen eye chart could see where the USS Trump Presidency was headed prior to the 2016 election. No surprises here; just hope that the next two election cycles will send this sinking administration to the deep.
The fact that anyone could question this conclusion at all shows just how effective the Republican's anti-education agenda has been...especially when Trump said as much himself.Fish on... Todd
So, it really doesn't matter which way Trump moves, he's always gonna be wrong.
I got no issue at all with the wall, even if taxpayers pay for it. Sure beats the hell out spending the same money supporting them once they cross. Trump is a negotiator, so it doesn't surprise me at all if he actually did leverage this issue in order to win the funding needed. That's called "getting sh!t done", and that's something entirely new to the useless bastards and biatches in Congress/Senate.
Congress (both sides) need to quit standing around wasting our money measuring dicks and do their jobs.
You're right about Congress, but that's the same as it ever was. Until we get rid of corporate election funding, expect Congress to remain corrupt, gridlocked, and essentially feckless.
That doesn't excuse your boy's decision to emotionally scar young children for his political gain. That you call that "getting sh!t done" clearly outs you as another morally bankrupt Magargler.
You're right about Congress, but that's the same as it ever was. Until we get rid of corporate election funding, expect Congress to remain corrupt, gridlocked, and essentially feckless.
That doesn't excuse your boy's decision to emotionally scar young children for his political gain. That you call that "getting sh!t done" clearly outs you as another morally bankrupt Magargler.
He's not "my boy"..honestly, I really don't care who holds the office. The issue is this same immigration problem has existed for decades, and all Congress has accomplished is a world-record circle jerk. Like him or not, Trump is getting stuff done.
As for all those young people being detained, odds are that they are eating better than they ever have, and the accommodations (sparse as they are) are probably better than what they had before their parents decided to risk being caught.
Todd, before calling me a racist, tell me, how do you think Hillary would have handled the immigration issue? Is anybody offering a better solution?
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I didn't call you a racist, and I doubt you are...but those who are telling you it is about money are flat out lying, because it is not. Those coming over the border are almost all working, at shitt jobs that Americans won't do, for shitt wages that Americans won't work for...and those jobs put food on every table in the country.
Contrary to popular talking points, they don't "welfare", they aren't getting tax refunds, and they aren't voting...they get nothing but their paychecks for their work, and the taxes they pay for Social Security and whatnot end up in someone else's pocket (unfortunately that means the pockets of giant corporations now that Congress is raiding OUR social security money to pay for the stupid tax breaks they gave themselves).
It's a problem that is far, far overblown...but it fires up the base to hear about all that crime and welfare fraud and illegal voting they do, even when it is demonstrably false.
It's incredibly stupid economic policy, besides being inhumane and unnecessary...but there is a large segment of white people who like to have someone to blame for their lot in life, and brown people are easy targets.
An old saying from the business I was in: "There comes a time in the history of every project where you shoot the engineers and just build the damn thing".
There's been enough talk, and instead of sitting around biatching about what has been done, it's time to DO SOMETHING.
I've never been a believer of the "Let's do something, even if it's wrong!" philosophy. Most American citizens and the majority of our representatives in Congress think not building a wall is a better solution. The "blind faith" followers of Trump want that wall built...facts be damned.
Build a bridge to somewhere...maybe Magnolia, instead of an obsolete before it's built Berlin Wall like boondoggle.
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The problem is that the businesses that rely on illegal immigrants...agriculture, restaurants, hospitality...want them to remain illegal. They are too expensive, otherwise.
Next you have the "they are taking our jobs!" myth spreaders...they want them all sent back, illegal or not.
Unfortunately those myth spreaders (and believers) constitute a large bloc of voters.
Again...guess who they vote for?
We already have food rotting in the fields because of a lack of pickers. This will hurt farmers, and hurt everyone who eats food. (That's every American)
All in the name of "doing something" that isn't even doing anything good at all, and is preventing nothing from happening.
you do know that they arent allowed to work for the first year in this country while applying for amnesty dont you?
so either they are working under the table, or getting benefits... they certianly arent homeless....
odd how people care so much about people from other countries, and i think last count was around 2k children were actually seperated from parents at these facilities, but no one cares about the 2.5 million American children that become homeless through no choice of their own each and every year....
they also arent just trotting across a field, they are crossing mountains, dangerous terrain, rivers, in the dark, theres snakes, scorpions, and other things that they are subjecting their children to, through no choice of their own, and yet thats OK....
like i said, people got what they wanted, dont be pissed off when the assaults and rapes start happening while housing grown men with little girls, and older boys with little girls....
theres a reason we dont put them together in this country....
plus, you could end up housing traffickers with children, smart idea....
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