Just looking for a report on the Kalama, I am looking to go down there the 29th-02.

Is there any good spots to fish and where???

Yup!

WHAT

The forecast for the Kelso/Longview area was for heavy rain the next day or two. Better check again closer to when you're going. It could be blown out.

If it's fishable, just follow the Kalama River Road from I-5. It parallels the river for several miles. There are lots of spots to pull over and fish. Also, check in at Pritchard's store about 3 miles up from I-5 on the left. They'll have the latest information on what's hot and tell you specifically where to go. Any specific information you get now won't do you any good on the 29th, particuarly after a heavy rain. Good luck.



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Catcher1--A friend and I fished the Kalama all day yesterday, Thursday. Water was low for winter flow. We had one strike & caught a dime bright winter run hen about 8 pounds. Of about 6 boats we talked with, one had a fish. I'd consider this a very slow day with the amount of pressure on the river. It rained off and on all day and the river is probably on the rise today. I'd also suggest calling Prichards Western Anglers for a river report before heading to the Kalama. I heard the canyon was producing better than the lower river. Good luck!
JT

We put 5 in the boat wednesday and 4 monday. All chromers, the summer fish were released.

BK-
Sounds a bit FISHY! Nobody has been catching a damn thing and you pull 5 out of the hat on Wed????????????

Well fish master that sounds like your problem not mine. If you think I'm pulling your chain why don't ya call mahaffeys(ask for bill) or talk to the bio chris and ask him how many fish they've seen BK and Scott yank out of there. Or ask Harvey of ripsomelips! Just because you fools cant catch em' doesn't mean there not there. All the regulars are hit em'! All the fuzzybutts wonder where they are. For instance 3 boats past us wednesday below begginers, they went right over the fish and anchored right on top of them. We pulled in behind them and banged 2. So I'm sorry if ya cant hook any fish on the Kalama, guess I'm givin false reports! Anyways call Bill at mahaffeys ask him how many fish BK and Scott have punched scince turkey day 360-673-7466. Robbie, harvey, bill, and us have been kill em'. See ya at the boat launch with a full fish box!

yah and I personally no that BK has caught as many fish as he says, so all of you that think its "fishing" you can just bight me and BK.

I ment "fishy"

bk wonder how many boats will be on you holes now. pricherds always says ya they are picking up a few in the canyon but nothing in the lower reaches. funny how they are just below the canyon.

No worries BK, keep killing them, because it is true 10% of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish. I floated the EF on tuesday and had 4 boats pass us, when we got to the ramp the plunkers said one boat had one fish and one released two summer runs. We ended up hooking 4 winterfish and landed 2, then we also turned a 30+ lb chinook loose (dark SOB) but all was fun. I love competition and could care less how many people are on a river cause the fish are here and will take a beating when I'm on the river!!!!!
Keep killing them... By the way we are thinking of having a derby on christmas day, maybe we should have it on the kalama any takers???? $10 per person, we could do most fish or total pounds but all fish have to be winterfish.
keith- email if you are interested stlhdr1@hotmail.com

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I'd be all for a little x-mass derby. Ya pritchards does a good job of marketing, notice how the fish are always biting shrimp in the canyon.....funny cause I've been usin' eggs down low. And your right a few extra people may be down there in the bottom end now thanks to me. But I can't stand a guy call my report BS so bring it on, my boat gets launched at 4:30 and I glowball the hatchery until its light enough or I see a boat goin' down. Anyways see ya down there!

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also funny how every time I call the pritchards hotline "the river is in great shape" I think they dub that sentence into every report. :-)

Ya I hear ya. For honest info and good advise call Mahaffeys and ask for Bill 360-673-7466. Hes a hellava fishermen and is on the river every day. Make sure you tell him BK gave you the number.

Young bucks don't make me take yo' money! lol

Make the road trip Hohwaiian and you may be surprised, us young bucks have had shady times and smaller #'s of fish to learn to fish on so me are much sharper. Now there are #'s of fish so our sharp skills kill'em. Remember if you aren't fishing top-dog eggs you aren't competition!!!!
MAYBE UP THE ANTE???
keith

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BRAG BRAG BRAG!!!!thats exactly what the deal is here.He who brags catches NO fish!!Just wants people to believe he does..

Braggarts have absolutely no class at all!!! It sure is nice to hear from poeple who don't like to constantly blow their own horn! By the way, competetive fishing is for inbred southern rednecks fishing for 4 pound bass with 25 pound line! All of the best fishermen I know don't brag at all, they don't have to.

just because someone brags doesn't mean they don't actually follow through with their statements. I brag occasionally, but that doesn't mean I don't know how to catch fish. I'm by no means "the best" there is, but really who is. If you say its you then who's really doing the bragging. Let them brag if they want, it sure is more fun than b*tching about it.

You know you may be correct about the bragging thing, but the competitiveness in a person shall never die. After you have caught over 1000 steelhead you must set up competitions with yourself and others to make it more interesting. When we who brag go fishing it's not if we caught a fish it's how many!! No hard feelings to anyone who is not competitive but for those who think braggers don't catch fish, WAKE UP. If you don't beleive it come watch and see!! Or cough up a couple of pennies and challenge!
Keith - KEEP SMILING AND CATCH FISH

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I feel absolutely no reason to compete with anyone, no matter how many fish I've landed, be it 100, 1000 or 10,000. I go fishing to have fun outdoors. There is no way I would allow some other fisherman's success (or lack thereof) to dictate whether or not I have had a good day. It's not that I think you don't catch fish. I'm sure you do, anyone who spends 275 days a year fishing ought to. It's just that all the bragging makes me want to puke! I don't like whining about it either but I had to say something.

Geez guys just lett'em go at it. They are not sayin that if you lose the competition that your going to have a bad day brah. If you have a bad day because of that then ya taking it a little serious. You just gotta take the good natured ribbing from BK and I'll bet he even has pictures of the whole thing hehehehe. Got out have a couple of beers afterwards and talk about how ya did or didn't do.

Tight lines

Kevin

Its all just for fun

Remember bragging is one thing and reporting is another... If he who reads a report and calls it a lie, he is the one that is incompetent and lacks the ability to learn more and better themselves. It's time to step out of the comfort zone and ante up!!! ANY TAKERS??? HA HA

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Wow......you guys are nuts.....and jump down someones throat at any chance! My original post was discreet! I said YUP. My second post I gave a report.......NO BRAGGING. It was until minute man Fish master...baiter call BS that I typed a post over 2 sentances. So I'm sorry for the BS report, I won't leave anymore. I'll keep the glory to myself and not try to help someone else out. Minus my good friends.

ok stlhder1, my curiosity's got the best of me.you said you were a young buck,how old is that, if you don't mind me asking.1000 steelhead,thats impressive.keep after em.good luck and merry christmas.momma says i can't fish on christmas. but i'll be back at er the rest of the week.

Hey, Stlhdr1, I was a bragging young 25 year old like yourself once. That was a long time ago, something like, oh, last month. I know what you mean about putting the hurt to a lot of steelies as I used to fish, fish, and fish. I have a hell of a lot of steelhead under my belt. Since I went back to college it has put a serious dent in my fishing time. My girlfriend never complains about fishing and rarely keeps me from going. It's the hours and hours of homework that tie me down.

I am a fierce competitor when on the water, but it depends on who is with me. If it's some of my heavy hitter steelhead fishin' buddies, then I am going to outfish them, period. If it's somebody brand new to steelheading or somebody who has not caught many, then I'll work my tail off to get them a fish. Most of the time when I'm pulling plugs I let the guys in the front grab whichever rod gets a takedown. No worries as I will be driftfishin' the next hole and I'll get a chance to hook one for myself. I have a lot of days on the water where I let my guests catch all the fish and hand my rod off when I hook one. Doesn't bother me as long as the recipient is happy and appreciative.

I think it's ok to brag and compete as long as you're in the company of those who can withstand it as they will dish it out too. I am like you, stlhdr1 when it comes to other boats on the river. I don't care who gets in front of me as I have a killer success rate when it comes to batting cleanup. Much like you, there are people out there that have a secret weapon or two.

I would like to challenge you, BK, and any other guys in the mid twenties age group. Let's see what ya'll are made of before we take on the veterans and get creamed. To keep it fair it would have to be the best two out of three: One day on your home river, one day on mine, and one day on a new river that no of us have ever fished. Fair enough? If you win, then "you da man" and vice versa.

I absolutely love fishing with people that can outfish me as I will never know it all and still have so much to learn.

Justin
CEO, Sauk River Steelhead Ranch



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Sounds like fun to me! Thats the type of fishermen I like to surround myself by, slayers! I try to never be closed minded because there is soooooo much to learn. In the game of salmon and steelhead nobody knows it all. Sounds like we should all get together and have some fun competition. Where and when?

hey BK how about letting a 32 y/o bank fisherman who only gets out 6-10 days a month join you. I fish mainly floats so I can catch the pocket water and snaggy runs for you. I may not have "1000" fish under my belt but I can hold my own.

If for some REAL CRAZY reason my fishin' bud cant go. I'd like to take you out(even though I hate floats unless they are a absolute must) but I really only like fishing 2 people. Things get crowded quick when you have 2 guys trying to side drift up front. Hes 23. Maybe we can hook up some time though. I pretty much always have a full boat though.

Well let me know who the winner is and call me...lol

Peace Out...Hohwaiian a.k.a. Steelhead Shihan

Hoh you should get in on the gig. I've seen you with some HOGS from bouy10 but not the steelies. I know ya get em' too, I know you well enough. But lets see some steelies get the club! LOL Hoh call he I lost your # or leave on E-mail

Hey, BK, how about a little Canadian river fishing coompetition and then we can see who can pick up the hottest babe? I usually go fishing for babes with one friend but I could be talked into bringin' more. We just have to find where they're stacked. Peace

Justin

You know I'm all in Saukit2em. That would be great you guys pick the three rivers cause there aren't many I haven't fished in my life. By the way I am 25 and my fishing partner the one for the derby is 24. So we're all right in the same age class, not something you see a lot (fisherman with a clue). Let's do this soon. It totally excites me. I know BK is in on it and anyone else is welcome.


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Maybe the 3rd river will have to be the Vedder, we could go line a few at the bars after a great day lettin' nates go. Heres one "you wash those pants in windex, cause I can see myself in em'" Or Portlands got a few hotties, and some great strip bars if its a slow night. Maybe the clack or sandy! Well lets make it happen.


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bk are you the guy who lost his anchor in the tail of beginners hole. that was classic but you got you wish. i saw you guys nail 5 or 6 against the rock wall. have you figured out those pumphouse fish. i havent got a chance to fish them yet. someone is always chucking heavy gear or parking a boat on top. sorry about being defensive about beginers hole its just fustrating when your on the bank catching fish and people think there at blue creek and fish over the top of you with heavy gear and spook the fish. but i must admit i like catching more fish of the rock they were on. i swicthed to a bait caster just so i would attract more guys buy a singing coffee grinder.

Maybe we should include the island, we could go fish the stamp, then fish at the bars in town I know that there were some hot chicks there!!

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Ya, that was me who lost my anchor . Thank god Denny was home putting up X-mass lights because he owns about every tool known to man. So we got the anchor free . That was a helleva day we landed 5 right there and 7 more on the way to modrow. With all this high water the fish probably wont be as stacked down there. Which guy are you? Were you fishing floats? I saw someone put a nice chromer in the net, then back out. The net man must have felt like a real j@ckass. Anyways, say hi next time.

I was already warned that BK is a helluva good fisherman and I'm sure that stlhdr1 is pretty damn good too. I don't see it as a threat but a good challenge. I am humble enough and tough enough to take a good a$$ whoopin' by you guys if that's what happens. Should be fun and I have already had a flood of e-mails from guys on the board beggin' me to outfish the s**t out of you guys because they think you deserve it. I am not going to take sides as I want to keep this fun and meet some hardcores like you two addicts in the process. I have money to burn but I think we should do it just for bragging rights and the loser can buy the beer at the bar that night if we go out prospecting for honeys.

I am going to float a local river with Mom and Dad for Christmas. That's what I call spending time with the family!!

Happy Holidays
Justin


Happy Holidays

bk i was the jack@ss that lost my buddies fish but i did manage to net three more for him with my trout net he got a 15lb and 12lb and i got a 10 lb and 11lb. i hooked three and he hooked 7. that was a great day. i will say hi bext time

Thats what I was talkin about!!!Fished a hole full of willing takers!!! howabout a spot thet you guys have never fished?I'll do that in a heartbeat...OHHHHH thats right we need to fish a river they have already fished !!!!Cause thats the only way they can WIN!!

RRRRRrriiiiiight!!!!LOL Sounds like your the Bad@ss now...... I though this was going to be fun. YA KNOW WHAT THOUGH, A SMART FISHERMEN DOESNT POUND WATER WITH POOR BITERS IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE WILLING CHROMERS ARE. Thats cool, I fish rivers from OP to Canada, to the columbia, Smith to the Sac in Cali when I lived there, chetco to the rouge! Dont get me wrong, I'm not sayin' I cant be out fished, especially on a river I'm not familiar with. But Saukit has a fair way to do it. Pick your fav and then you both fish an unknown river. I think it should be fun 2 half racks later and a few chromers to the boat. Even then we will need to wait for picks to develop for the winner to be determend. Big nates baby!!

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hey BK-
I know this response came a little late but here it is. I'm not doubting your fish catching abilities one bit. I'm originally from olympia now living in edmonds. I don't even fish up here much. I do most of my fishing on the rivers I learned on, Kalama, Cow, Wynoochee, Satsop, etc... I had been fishing the kalama alot and my friend has been drifting it everyday and only picked up a couple. I would consider myself a good fisherman. I could tell you how many fish I have cought this year but you wouldn't beleive me just like I didn't believe you. I don't know you and you don't know me so who is to judge. Everyone I talked to and fished next to had not seen or heard of any fish. I do believe that 10% of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish. Every dog has his day and guess you had your day.

I agree with most your post, I don't know you and you don't know me. But the sun was shining on my @ss for 3 and half weeks straight. Got some aloe for that! Anyways I hope everybody had a good X-mass. I finally got a replacement for my 5mm bares that were in pieces! And a get to forks free card from my fishin' bud........all expense paid 2 day trip.(does that include beer and smokes too!)

If you guys havent fished the Clearwater in Jeff CO that might be a good one to see who is the best.

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WALT?!? Suprized to find you here. I was just having a good laugh at this and ready to click off and then run into you at the end of it here. hehe. Guess if you chimmed in I will too. ... All these kids that think they've learned it all by their mid-twenties are just about at where you and I were 20 years ago - nobody could touch us so we thought that was really hot [Bleeeeep!]. Only difference is that I was secure enough in myself, even as a chump mid-twenties testosterone OD'd @$$ bandit, that I didn't go around making people wanna puke at a bunch of discusting bragging. Waz up with that?!? And this is only fishing, not something tough like basketball or boxing or science. Now watch their gonads boilover and want to have a boxing match with me . These little boys must have very small weiners or some serious failures to compensate for. . Unfortunate.



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I came back to re-read my post above and want to appologize for dissin' off so hard. I should have been more supportive of you finding a better way to express yourself. For whatever deep down inside you that compells you to such behavior, I sincerely hope you find a peaceful resolution for it. You will enjoy life so much better and so will those around you. Peace out.

GO RT!!! GO RT!!! you preach it brother!!! *L*

Wheeeeuw! As I read your post Escapee I thought 'oh geez I overdid the preechin and am gettin mocked' . Then I looked up your above post to see that you think about it like me and a lot of others do. ...

Your post said "Braggarts have absolutely no class at all!!! It sure is nice to hear from poeple who don't like to constantly blow their own horn! By the way, competetive fishing is for inbred southern rednecks fishing for 4 pound bass with 25 pound line! All of the best fishermen I know don't brag at all, they don't have to". ...

They will learn eventually from the 'school of hard knocks' that such blatant bragging, especially in a public forum, is not a becoming or endearing thing to do. I'm sure they are cool guys otherwise? BTW, I think competitve N.W. salmon and steelhead fishing derbies with money involved are illegal unless sanctioned by the WDFG & ODWF. I wouldn't say anything about it to them because it's not a big deal, but it isn't the wisest thing to be advertising about gambling dollars, in a public forum. (Otherwise I wouldn't mind takin their money ... jk jk jk = just kidding!). Just my .02 worth on that.

RT-
There are many out there that will blow there own horn when possible. We just happened to blow ours on this forum, just as you probably do in the private world. But you're more modest and less egotistical but you know deep inside and you probably giggle that you would think that you could show us young pups the ropes, but be careful yourself for it's not the years and years of experience you have put in that will make you the king, because I do know many who I thought were once the greatest fisherman in the world and I fish around those quite often and more than not out perform them. If anything I would still love to have the chance to fish with you one day and if anything have the opportunity to learn.....

Hope things have been going well for you the past couple of months because it has been a bit of time since we have talked..

Was on the EF of the Lewis X-mas day and we boated 5 and lost 1. Today we were 0-4. All the wrong things happened.. Shall we go fishing soon on this side of the border or yours??? And it really doesn't matter who reads about all the fish we have caught because there were 3 boats in front on the 25th and 5 ahead today!!

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Keith, I can try to teach you and some other fishermen something right here w/o having to take you out and show you some boating/fishing intracacies. I gave it a poorly worded shot up above (please pardon that - it was a mood thing) so I will try to lend some learned wisdom about fishing that will make you a better fishermen. It took me many years to learn this secret and I will share it with you now (at the risk of sounding condescending or hypocritical - but it is for effect of the point; not to brag). ....

The best fishermen on the river are the ones who truely get the maximun enjoyment from the experience. This can mean different things to different people. One of the common denominators is success at catching fish of course. Another is enjoying the beautiful outdoor scenery. Many enjoy the fun and company of good friends. Relaxing your way into fish is another. ... Now here's the big secret one that I learned in recent years that has pushed my enjoyment level way up; getting over the 'competitive, outfish the rest, prove myself' mentality on the river! ... You see, I was very much like you Keith at your age. Because I learned good uncrowded productive places for bankfishing, and because I was an eggcuring fanatic in addition to other tricks learned, I often caught and released more salmon and steelhead by myself than most guide's boatloads had on a given day. It is a tougher gig having to get doughballs into fish on crowded river sections as guides must do though. I can tell you that being on the river almost every day and being able to dial in on the several different intracacies of what's taking the fish any particular week is a real advantage; for both guides and hardcores like yourself. Like a lot of the rest of us Keith, for a number of reasons I can only fish typically a couple times a week now. That's not enough to really dial in as I used to; or you do now. I still have the occassional double figure days when the fish are in on the day I'm able to go and I make the right educated guesses of where the fish are and what will work best on them that day, but not nearly as often as I used to when I was 'dialed' in and fishing competitively hard almost every day. Yet I have a much better fishing knowledge base now! BUT, I enjoy my time on the river so much more again. Remember how exhilerating it was to go fishing for steelhead the first couple of years, as you caught a few fish in the learning process. Well, with the right attitude and proper appreciation of what you are getting to do out there, fishing can become exhilerating again. And a whole lot more relaxing and satisfying by just fishing for the shere joy of it and not even thinking about 'kicking everyones @$$' or focusing on getting the biggest numbers you can to tell the world about. It took a lot of time and soul searching for me to earn this mindset and shere enjoyment back again. I wouldn't trade it for any amount of big numbers to brag up or tournament trophy's on my desk to show off. The best fishermen find this realm. I hope you do too someday. - RT


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Well Put RT.