I just did! lol....

I posted Iron Butterfly before I even read that haha. Ok Nick. The first REAL Heavy Metal band was Priest. Judas Priest stylistically came up with leather and spikes,and they thematically started writing heavy metal songs. Black Sabbath owns all that came after make no mistake,but it's Judas Priest. Debate over you lose.

yawn...

You listen to any behemoth or gojira.

I think Gojira is one of the better "newer" metal bands. I like their themes of enviromental issues and spirituality. Behemoth is a wicked band but thematically I get bored quickly with the satanic themes.

Mario Duplantier is the real deal. He can play double bass for an hour without ever stopping,it's his "warm up". Saw those guys live in SC and they were off the hook. Never seen Behemoth,but if you are into that sort of sh!t check out Watain. They are swedish and light upside down crosses on fire on stage and throw blood on the crowd. I was back a few rows so it missed me

Not so fast. The guitar chords in In-Agadda-Da-Vida were laid down before Priest was even a band. If you are talking theatrics & looks, then it probably was Priest. Iron Butterfly probably considered themselves just Rock. This brings me to a point of clarification needed. Is heavy metal considered the structural arrangement of a song or it is an all up music, attitude and look combined?

I would say it would be the later. Case in point, The Kinks were the first to cut their speakers to produce fuzz. Is fuzz considered HM or are just power cords considered HM? The Kinks are not HM.

I'm talking Heavy Metal as a subgenre of music. You know what Heavy Metal is. Iron Maiden. Slayer. Many people say Sabbath was the first,and that's not up for debate. But the first band to put it all together was Judas Priest.

Same as the proto punk rock of the Stooges. But they weren't punk rock. Ya dig?

Your definition of 'all up' fair enough and the correct one. With that I would agree that it's Priest. However, Priest did not originally create the sound themselves - they borrowed the structural power cord basis and built it into a subgenre which directly maps to your point.

Music is a tough one considering very few have actually created a new sound. Most pick, choose and borrow from those that have come before.

Great debate!

Gojira and behemoth opened for knot this year at KISWs pain in the grass. Got to see disturbed, rob zombie and Marilyn Manson.
Rob puts on a hell of a show.
It was my first time hearing Gojira and I was very impressed.

Correction. This is a hijack. Nobody was remotely entertained at what you had going until I stepped in. You're welcome.

Eh. Rob Zombie makes better movies than music and that isn't saying much. That sounds like an Ozzfest lineup if ever there was one lol.

Bands like High on Fire,early Mastodon,and the Sword re-piqued my interest in heavy music for a while. Lately I have been on a different metal kick,old Accept,Raven,Krokus and Michael Schenker,and morose 80s bands like the Cure and Killing Joke,Bauhaus,and I've really been digging NEU! which was an early 70s band from Germany. Europe seems to grab my attention more than America when it comes to hard rock and other types of things but the US has it's fair share.

I mean look at the creative boom in the 90's. Panfuckingtera lol

Whoosh! That's the point Avid. To step in with a position and defend it. I just laid down the challenge. It's up to you and / or others to accept said challenge or not. Hanker did last night and got owned. Too bad the mods saw fit to scramble the thread and stack the deck.

Any other music items you want to toss into the mix? Past music - what else ya got?

Little Nicky,
Just remember while you fa king my momma I'm in the closet watching.

Ewww. Well - enjoy the show. It'll only last 23 seconds anyway.

I love talking about music,fishing. But there isn't much to debate. Other than the crap like Jonas Brothers,your favorite band.

That's the deal, zombies music is meh but the performance and theatrics were like watching one of his movies.

I'm a huge MSG and UFO fan.

UFO Phenomenon and Lights out should be in ever person's music collection. On vinyl! Montrose. Same thing. Ozzy with Randy,same thing. Scorpions Lovedrive and In Trance. Everything with Bon Scott. I have about 1500 records and Cds. I am really getting into Fela Kuti's music. Look him up,african jazz,or whatever it's hard to classify him. The REAL deal. I also love Dr John the Night Tripper.

I always go with Deep Purple in answer to that question...but I'm not going to fight over it.

Fish on...

Todd

Is that what Google told ya....lol