#1022595 - 02/20/20 08:02 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Literally any mentally stable adult 2020 This. I'd even take S.M.O.D. right about now. At this point, I'm about ready to fly to China for some Coronas.
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#1022598 - 02/20/20 09:37 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Literally any mentally stable adult 2020 Look at that... even Illasheeshee is good for a nugget or two occasionally.
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#1022599 - 02/20/20 09:44 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Literally any mentally stable adult 2020 Look at that... even Illasheeshee is good for a nugget or two occasionally. It's a bumper sticker.
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#1022603 - 02/21/20 08:25 AM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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I don't know if Bloomberg is an arrogant prick or not. But I don't blame him for his late entrance into the presidential race or participating in the earlier debates. First, Bloomberg entered the race only because he saw the other candidates as having little chance of defeating Trump. I agree with that. Skipping the presidential debates is over-inflated. The debates should be a vetting process. They aren't. They are so fvcking stupid that I am having a hard time understanding that so many give them any credence. They say there is no such thing as a stupid question. I disagree. Look at the questions asked, and how they are asked, at the debates. It's like they have knuckledraggers in charge of managing the debates. They aren't even debates. You could go watch most high school debate teams compete and see and hear better debates, better questions, and far, far better answers and rebuttals.
I think Bloomberg is on the right track. Take the campaign to the voters, even though too many of them are deplorable knuckledraggers themselves. But they get polled, and they vote.
Democratic candidates are truly a disappointment. (BTW, I lean left.) Each of them is up there spouting, "Vote for me - cuz I'm gonna' give you more free sh!t than the other guys!" We have a booming national economy, but not a one of them - except Bloomberg - acts like they understand basic Econ 101. They promise better or free health care. They promise free education. Fvck all, neither health care nor education are basic human rights, contrary to Bernie. Basic education is a national priority and committment, and the gov't spends a ton a money on it, but it's not a human right. I think the gov't should spend enough to make college or trade schools affordable to those who want it, but not free. A student needs skin in the game - money invested - to appreciate it enough to take it seriously. I think the gov't should spend maybe a bit more on health care, but it shouldn't be free. Again, patient customers should have some skin in the game so they use it wisely and don't abuse it. The gov't should intervene to put US health care on a par with the other major western natiions, so that we don't spend twice as much as other nations to receive about 80% of the care that they do. Allow Medicare to negotiate pharma prices for Pete's sake. Neuro surgeon's make $1.4 million a year; do you really think they would switch jobs if they only made $800,000 a year? On and on, etc.
US defense is in pretty good shape, and that is national priority number one. Beyond education and health, the national funding priority should be infrastructure - often mentioned yet seldom invested in. And since the economy is booming, maybe the Fed should do like WA state and actually have a rainy day fund instead of always going deeper in the red.
The US tax code has always favored capital over labor. Trump tilted the scale even more out of whack. It should be rebalanced so more money flows into tax revenue. WTF should capital gains be taxed at a lower rate than wage income? Net income is net income, but cap. gains accrues mainly to the wealthy; I've never made a single dollar of cap. gains.
Bloomberg is an old white billionaire, but I'd trust him to manage my money over any of the other candidates, and certainly over Trump any day.
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#1022611 - 02/21/20 11:31 AM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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#1022616 - 02/21/20 01:01 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Knock it off with reasoned arguments and analysis Salmo - this is the darkside!
I lean right but agree with most of what you laid out. Common sense and reason are decidedly lacking in most of our modern politics.
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#1022617 - 02/21/20 01:18 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Registered: 08/12/19
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Common sense and reason are decidedly lacking in most of our modern politics. True. What I hate most is when just because someone has a different political bent or opinion than others, some people think it's okay to bash them as being unAmerican. Or just hating their fellow Americans because of their political difference. That has to stop and it starts with all of us. Divided we fall and all that.
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#1022618 - 02/21/20 01:36 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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I don't know if Bloomberg is an arrogant prick or not. But I don't blame him for his late entrance into the presidential race or participating in the earlier debates. First, Bloomberg entered the race only because he saw the other candidates as having little chance of defeating Trump. I agree with that. Skipping the presidential debates is over-inflated. The debates should be a vetting process. They aren't. They are so fvcking stupid that I am having a hard time understanding that so many give them any credence. They say there is no such thing as a stupid question. I disagree. Look at the questions asked, and how they are asked, at the debates. It's like they have knuckledraggers in charge of managing the debates. They aren't even debates. You could go watch most high school debate teams compete and see and hear better debates, better questions, and far, far better answers and rebuttals.
I think Bloomberg is on the right track. Take the campaign to the voters, even though too many of them are deplorable knuckledraggers themselves. But they get polled, and they vote.
Democratic candidates are truly a disappointment. (BTW, I lean left.) Each of them is up there spouting, "Vote for me - cuz I'm gonna' give you more free sh!t than the other guys!" We have a booming national economy, but not a one of them - except Bloomberg - acts like they understand basic Econ 101. They promise better or free health care. They promise free education. Fvck all, neither health care nor education are basic human rights, contrary to Bernie. Basic education is a national priority and committment, and the gov't spends a ton a money on it, but it's not a human right. I think the gov't should spend enough to make college or trade schools affordable to those who want it, but not free. A student needs skin in the game - money invested - to appreciate it enough to take it seriously. I think the gov't should spend maybe a bit more on health care, but it shouldn't be free. Again, patient customers should have some skin in the game so they use it wisely and don't abuse it. The gov't should intervene to put US health care on a par with the other major western natiions, so that we don't spend twice as much as other nations to receive about 80% of the care that they do. Allow Medicare to negotiate pharma prices for Pete's sake. Neuro surgeon's make $1.4 million a year; do you really think they would switch jobs if they only made $800,000 a year? On and on, etc.
US defense is in pretty good shape, and that is national priority number one. Beyond education and health, the national funding priority should be infrastructure - often mentioned yet seldom invested in. And since the economy is booming, maybe the Fed should do like WA state and actually have a rainy day fund instead of always going deeper in the red.
The US tax code has always favored capital over labor. Trump tilted the scale even more out of whack. It should be rebalanced so more money flows into tax revenue. WTF should capital gains be taxed at a lower rate than wage income? Net income is net income, but cap. gains accrues mainly to the wealthy; I've never made a single dollar of cap. gains.
Bloomberg is an old white billionaire, but I'd trust him to manage my money over any of the other candidates, and certainly over Trump any day. Sg, I agree with pretty much everything you say, but find it hard to believe at your age you've never made a single dollar of capital gains. SF
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#1022646 - 02/21/20 07:26 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Being as nice as I can be, a vote for Mini Mike is a vote to kill the Constitution - that hurts ALL of us.....and I'll leave it at that. *Note: Orginally, I had MANY other choice things written down here, but I'm trying something new by taking the high road. Yer' unspanked butts are welcome.
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#1022698 - 02/23/20 01:17 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Nick, leaving it at that doesn't work. How does voting for mini Mike kill the Constitution? Are you taking about "stop and frisk," which he didn't originate and has long since abandoned? Seems voting for Trump is the Constitution killer. Trumps behaves as though he has never read the Constitution, clearly doesn't understand the Constitution, has zero respect for the rule of law, he's weaponized the federal government to his own political purposes, and is now normalizing corruption. If that ain't clear, cogent, and convincing evidence of a Constitution killer, then I don't know what is. This.
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#1022699 - 02/23/20 01:42 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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this what? its horsesh!t... Mike has said that American citizens are "too stupid" to own guns... Mike also said that whites get stopped more by police than minorities do... he might not have originated it, but was in full support of it, 100 percent... until people got upset about it... Earlier this month, a 2015 video resurfaced in which Bloomberg defended stop and frisk in racist terms. In the video, he claimed “95 percent of murders, murderers, and murder victims” were “male minorities 16 to 25” and that one could “take the description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all cops.” He later added, “We put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. Yes, that’s true. Why do we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is. And the way you get guns out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them.” https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...-justice-recordhe also thinks farmers are stupid... you know, the people that feed the WORLD... those guys, dumb as stumps... its honestly amazing how stupid democrats are...
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#1022700 - 02/23/20 01:51 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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oh yeah, and didnt hear anyone bitching when Obama weaponized the IRS and targeted conservatives because the Demorats didnt like them.... it really is amazing... https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbasil...t/#c97487e1b92c
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#1022706 - 02/23/20 03:16 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Obama blah blah ,Trump yada yada. 2020, bitches.
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#1022739 - 02/23/20 06:13 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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River Nutrients
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It was investigated, no charges and nobody went to jail. That's the reason you didn't hear anyone bitching, except Fox News, so in the end nothing but another Fox News rabbit hole.
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#1022741 - 02/23/20 06:34 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Nevemind Evotard. He can’t vote. His opinion doesn’t matter.
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#1022747 - 02/23/20 07:44 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Obama blah blah ,Trump yada yada. 2020, bitches. Russia, blah blah
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#1022752 - 02/23/20 09:16 PM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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Obama blah blah ,Trump yada yada. 2020, bitches. Russia, blah blah Bernie Blah Blah Blah
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#1022756 - 02/24/20 09:07 AM
Re: Prediction for 2020 election
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River Nutrients
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this what? its horsesh!t... Mike has said that American citizens are "too stupid" to own guns... Mike also said that whites get stopped more by police than minorities do... he might not have originated it, but was in full support of it, 100 percent... until people got upset about it... Earlier this month, a 2015 video resurfaced in which Bloomberg defended stop and frisk in racist terms. In the video, he claimed “95 percent of murders, murderers, and murder victims” were “male minorities 16 to 25” and that one could “take the description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all cops.” He later added, “We put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. Yes, that’s true. Why do we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is. And the way you get guns out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them.” https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...-justice-recordhe also thinks farmers are stupid... you know, the people that feed the WORLD... those guys, dumb as stumps... its honestly amazing how stupid democrats are... Some Americans are too stupid to own guns. They are among the Trump supporters, otherwise known as deplorables and knuckledraggers. Nobody trusts those idiots with guns. It's not really racist when it's a description of the facts. Most of the criminals are disproportionately minority, so yeah, black males between 16 and 25 (actually up to 35 from what I've read) commit more crimes as a % of the population than their white counterparts. Whites do get stopped by cops in absolute numbers more than blacks, but blacks get stopped more as a % of the population. This sh!t ain't rocket science, but it helps to understand basic arithmetic, another attribute the low information voters ain't too keen on. Thinking farmers are stupid mainly makes sense in the context of mid-west farmers supporting Trump who then undermined their ag exports with his tariffs.
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