It’s sad that Antifa and violent protesters hijacked the platform for bringing peace and justice for people such George Floyd. It’s taken away from the message and the attention it deserves.
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Seems like a whole lotta violence and mayhem going on all across the country. Is it just me or does seem a bit peculiar that the majority of violence and private property destruction seems to be centralized in long time Democratically held States and Municipalities.
Ya, I'm sure there is equal outrage in Republican led States and Cities, as there should be, but the media has not shown us very many instances, (Atlanta) where the civil unrest in States with Republican leadership has resorted into full blown rioting. Cars and businesses set on fire, windows smashed, free for all looting and the list goes on and on. All they seem to cover on CNN, Fox, Local news and the like, are cities like Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, Portland, Chicago, etc., all of which have been controlled by Democrats for decades.
Could it be that these Antifa sons a bitches, who fly in to a city to raise hell, know there is virtually no chance that they will ever be arrested and charge with any sort of crime ? And just who the hell if financing these bastards ? Perhaps the billionaire George the Greek ? Track down the funding source's and then bring the full weight of the US Government down on their sorry asses and declare them domestic terrorists. Seize all of their assets. Then begin to repay the many thousands of private business owners for their losses caused by a small minority of outside agitators. Sadly, the people outraged and peacefully protesting this horrible situation are left to pick up the pieces and then try to rebuild once the domestic terrorists have fled back into their respective caves.
As for the guys in charge in Minneapolis ... " Choo got sum 'splaining to doo " This guy Chauvin, the murderer, has had 17 civilian complaints of excessive force in the last 19 years. Geezus Keee-Riest .. What the hell's going on there, eh ? He's needs to fry and his dumb-ass co-workers need to serve more than a few years as well. I watched as that short and chubby cop just stood there watching with a puzzled look on his face. Now who on earth thought this inbred lazy tongue mouth breather was qualified to be given a badge and a gun should be fired. PERIOD !
Sadly, I'm afraid all of this civil unrest is just the beginning. The US Govt. doesn't have the balls to sniff out the people financing Antifa because of where the trail may lead. To many awkward questions would then have to be answered. That just ain't gonna happen.
Stay safe out there....
Peace
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I didn't have the radio on all day yesterday until I drove out to pick up a carry out order from a Mexican restaurant. I shouldn't have been surprised at what I learned was going on, but was none the less. Turned on the TV after returning home to get a look at some of the damage sustained.
It sure looks like a legitimate protest got hijacked into something else entirely. Seattle police seemed to manage it pretty well when they got there. The main message of the original protest march is probably forever diluted.
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Free insurance and retirement. Raise the minimum wage. Something for nothing won't and never has worked boys.
It's time the haves step up and provide a refresher course to the have nots. Get to work morons and quit damaging the possessions of those that spent their time earning their own place in this society.
The cops involved should pay and the protest thugs should get a free oneway ticket to Mars.
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It is not really too difficult to understand. Democrats are in the most part liberals I put the wink in because liberals have taken over a large part of the English language, which is a different story but absolutely related to the matter at hand.
While Republicans are mostly conservatives and that is because the Republican party is closest party to representing the values that we conservatives deem to be important to have embedded in a functional society.
So now just how many conservatives do you think were involved with the rioting that occurred? Just how many conservatives approve of it? Just how many conservatives are willing to believe that rioting would be the expected outcome from a miscarriage of justice that occured in a Democratically controlled police force, in a Democratically controlled city, in a Democratically controlled county, in a Democratically controlled state?
I am saddened but not surprised.
It is what I have come to expect from liberals.
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Rest assured that Tood does have a self serving opinion which may not serve his party line. However he also may not be able to control his instincts and join the frey in spite of his knowing better, after all he is a Democrat.
As that is the way that they function.
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Todd's actually doing something positive and constructive about it this weekend...all down in the heart of the action. All-the-while, you cvnts sit behind a cvnt keyboards in cvnt homes...being...well...massive achy cvnts. As that is the way that you function.
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Todd's actually doing something positive and constructive about it this weekend...all down in the heart of the action. All-the-while, you cvnts sit behind a cvnt keyboards in cvnt homes...being...well...massive achy cvnts. As that is the way that you function.
Thanks, Nick.
Spent all day downtown with hundreds of folks cleaning up glass and garbage, boarding up broken windows, and feeding all the volunteers.
Didn't notice blackmouth, Spent, or WDFW = 0 down there...come to think of it, didn't see a single MAGA hat, either.
They must all be hiding in their bunkers thinking that Rich's race war is finally happening. They probably jerked off in their boxers six or seven times each.
Spent all day downtown with hundreds of folks cleaning up glass and garbage, boarding up broken windows, and feeding all the volunteers.
Didn't notice blackmouth, Spent, or WDFW = 0 down there...come to think of it, didn't see a single MAGA hat, either.
They must all be hiding in their bunkers thinking that Rich's race war is finally happening. They probably jerked off in their boxers six or seven times each.
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Lol. They must be reaching for their viagra right about now. Nice backfire, stupids.
Kudos to Todd going out and helping with the cleanup.
I share many of Black Bart’s sentiments. It’s pretty widely accepted that Soros has his hands in promoting the chaos by the hands of Antifa. Pretty interesting how the consistent report by observers is around how the protests start off peaceful until a bunch of white people show up and start vandalizing and trashing everything.
This cop was also a bad apple and should have been canned long ago. It again presents another issue with unions... and like I’ve always said unions protect the good and the bad. The only way I see a lot of this changing is for fellow cops to start calling out their brothers instead of hiding behind the bullies shield of brotherhood. Protect and serve comes first.
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I wish that every single "self-reliant" b!tch that whines about Seattle would take an actual stand against Seattle...by picketing their own county courthouse, insisting that they immediately stop taking tax dollars from all those people with jobs in Seattle, and start paying their own ways.
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The problem with "sniffing out Antifa" or calling "Antifa" a terrorist organization is that it doesn't exist.
It's like declaring "White Supremacy" a terrorist organization.
It's a political ideology, not an organization, and last I checked it's against the Constitution to declare an ideology against the law.
Find an actual organization that is committing terrorist acts, then declare that organization a terrorist organization...then you are not only acting within the law, you're doing something that may actually be useful.
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You mean they just can't go arrest the CEO of Antifa? You know...that one guy? So if someone was against Fascism, are they now a terrorist or do they actually have to belong to the "club"? How do you prove that in a court of law?
This is a reactive, arrest and root out approach only. There won't be a proactive crackdown on higher ups until they can somehow trace some things back to who knows who? Soros? But now they can slap on some additional charges that carry some serious federal weight. I get the approach I guess, but wouldn't that mean that our cities would still need to be burned first in order to arrest later?
Also...
You can't wear a mask!
Everyone must wear a mask!
You can't wear a mask!
Everyone must wear a mask!
It is kinda funny when you think about it.
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The problem with "sniffing out Antifa" or calling "Antifa" a terrorist organization is that it doesn't exist.
Find an actual organization that is committing terrorist acts, then declare that organization a terrorist organization...then you are not only acting within the law, you're doing something that may actually be useful.
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And there we have it folks. Toad's solution to the problem. Now with every shovel full of broken glass, with every broken dream of small business owners, with every sheet of storefront plywood, you just keep reminding yourself Toad of all the positive attributes of your sides " political ideology ".
Fish off...
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Originally Posted By: Todd
The problem with "sniffing out Antifa" or calling "Antifa" a terrorist organization is that it doesn't exist.
Find an actual organization that is committing terrorist acts, then declare that organization a terrorist organization...then you are not only acting within the law, you're doing something that may actually be useful.
Fish on...
Todd
And there we have it folks. Toad's solution to the problem. Now with every shovel full of broken glass, with every broken dream of small business owners, with every sheet of storefront plywood, you just keep reminding yourself Toad of all the positive attributes of your sides " political ideology ".
Fox News made ANTIFA. I never heard of it before Fox made it legitimate. It was 20 retards in the Portland area then the powers that control our minds decided we need a radical liberal terrorist organization to worry about.
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The planned protest in Snohomish played out a little different.
The Facebook post was deleted but you can ask around about it.
Well...since you know...wanna tell us? I live in Snoho and was in downtown both Saturday and Sunday doing some garden shopping. I saw nothing of note.
I can only imagine "the why" it didn't go off. In fact, I give myself just one guess. The thought of a looting out here actually never even crossed my mind this weekend and I find myself surprised that someone thought it might be a good idea.
This isn't the type of country to play around in and win stupid prizes. In fact, I was just thinking to myself yesterday while working in the garden, that it's really nice out here in the peace and quiet during all this unrest. We like peace and quiet in these here parts except for the occasional gun shot. Nobody complains about the occasional gun shot. Especially a gunshot followed up by an excavator firing up. Hmmm...
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There were three members of Meal Team Six standing on a corner with ARs.
That's why Snohomish wasn't looted.
To be honest, I like the fact that the local community took it upon themselves to protect their businesses, but I am pretty sure that no one anywhere had any plans to loot an antique store in downtown Snohomish.
I mean, they didn't loot my house, shop, garage, or yard...and though I am definitely well-armed enough to prevent it if they did, I'm pretty sure that's not why they didn't.
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For kicks and grins...if someone wanted to follow what was happening around, you can go here to listen in on all of the police/fire/other scanners, most anywhere in the state...
Fox News made ANTIFA. I never heard of it before Fox made it legitimate. It was 20 retards in the Portland area then the powers that control our minds decided we need a radical liberal terrorist organization to worry about.
check your history, Fox news wasnt even an idea when ANTIFA first started in Italy and the US...
and dont think that just because Snoho is small, there isnt any reason for them to come there... they came to Bonney Lake last night, and were coming out to here in Puyallup yesterday, but the PC sheriffs and Puyallup PD surrounded the mall and let no one in... everyone around here suspects it will happen tonight... there were a couple of fat white bitches holding up BLM signs in the middle of Meridian yesterday afternoon..
these people are going to everywhere that they can destory, cause harm, and steal anything of value... they even hit Spokane last night and the Idaho Police were there to help as well...
they came to Auburn last night as well..
all jewelry has been removed from all the stores out here, it was all there yesterday, and now its all gone... the South Hill Mall has police staying inside the building, 24/7...
the media and Gherkins bitch ass are doing no help with the rhetoric they are spewing either...
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these people are going to everywhere that they can destory, cause harm, and steal anything of value.
Remind me again who "these people" are?
Antifa? Gangs? (What gamg could pull this off?) Outside Forces? Liberals? Conservatives? Demonstrators gone bad?
Kinda don't think this is a racial/liberal/conservative thing any more. We are getting duped by some form of well organized crime syndicate and or foreign intervention (Russian fvcking with BookFace again that all you monkeys read and follow).
And then there is our fine POTUS. He sure does put on a great donkey show and doesn't seem to want to stop.
ANTIFA, gangs, both inside and outside forces, a lot of them are liberals, a lot are communists, a lot if not most are Bernie supporters...
i dont know if its the "fault" of liberal cities, but it is the fault of liberal actions that have created a situation in this state and country... they are using it as fuel for their agenda... they want control of you, because if you are easily controlled, you cant do anything to stop them from whatever they want to do...
dont you think the timing was rather odd that they let all those prisoners out of jail because of "da virus", and then this happens?
who the hell is paying for all the pallets of bricks dropped off on street corners in cities across America? pictures and videos of it are all over FB...
then you get the stupid fvcks like the chick i saw on TV last night basically saying fvck capitalism, while wearing a Nike jump suit and Gucci sunglasses...
dont you find it odd that everyone was screaming at the people protesting the lockdown in Oly, that was for ALL citizens, yet tons are backing the protestors good and bad, right now? people are saying that it was "armed white men" that were protesting the lockdown, wtf does race have to do with it?
this is going to end up being a war against whites eventually if it doesnt get squashed quick, and if you are white, none of you are safe...
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You're not racist, just dumber than a fuckin fence post, a really stupid fence post.
Good luck in your "War on Whites"...I hope you have time for it after being on the front lines for the "War on Christmas" and the "War on Religion"...especially since another lazy POS who's hiding in his bedroom just started the "War on Twitter"...he may need your exceptional Google skills for that one.
It's too bad we can't have a War on Stupid. Stupid is what is ruining our country.
thats funny, and clearly you are full of [Bleeeeep!]...
i have had multiple people say they have friends in Texas and Georgia and down south, one of which posted a 45 minute video this morning of him expressing his opinions and such about the whole situation, and he said "i know people down in Texas that are on some Kill Whitey [Bleeeeep!] and i dont agree with it"...
guess what, hes black... im sure he would know far far better about his community than you ever will...
but you go ahead and tell him hes wrong, thats typically what all white people that think they are backing the BLM movement do, they tell other white people whats going on in the black community, when they dont know what the fvck they are talking about...
bet me...
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ahhhh, typical liberal, have nothing so you resort straight to name calling...
atleast you are consistant...
Shan will also beat the brakes off your ass if you tried to tell him he was full of sh!t...
so would Demico, who fought in the UFC as i have stated in the past...
but you will just sit in your little cubby hole and talk sh!t on the internet, because you are too much of a bitch to actually say anything of the sort to anyones face...
solid work...
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So are you still all MAGA? Your loverboy trump now owns the worst unemployment in our lifetimes, he totally fuckked up the covid response, a sinking economy, whipped up racism and he encourages cops to brutalize Americans....I could go on here. So, are you trumpers happy now? We warned you.
There were three members of Meal Team Six standing on a corner with ARs.
That's why Snohomish wasn't looted.
Those three look like they spent their time training on Porkchop Hill and had already lost the Battle of the Bulge, I suspect they weren't protecting anything at all, just out hunting for an easy meal.
As for the eternal dem vs repub battle, I figure Mr knee on neck murder guy just may have been a conservative trump type voter, at the very least not a liberal democrat.
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Originally Posted By: evo
there were a couple of fat white bitches holding up BLM signs in the middle of Meridian yesterday afternoon
Sounds like Evo put down his “unemployed, need drug money” sign for a BLM sign. Does the BLM sign pay better than the woe is me sign?
I did chuckle when a fat white bitch was calling out other fat white bitches. At least they were out doing something. If they got paid to hold the sign, then they have more job than that other fat white bitch does.
I wish that every single "self-reliant" b!tch that whines about Seattle would take an actual stand against Seattle...by picketing their own county courthouse, insisting that they immediately stop taking tax dollars from all those people with jobs in Seattle, and start paying their own ways.
Fuckin socialists, every last one of them.
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I'm in Stevens County. Could you provide a link to support your claim? You sound upset, but I'm fairly certain I'm paying my own way.
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Remind me again who "these people" are?
China is almost certainly using agents to further destabilization as do all world powers against their adversaries. Undermining national unity of adversaries is one of the key roles of espionage. Drumpf should stop fighting with China. He caused this by calling it the Wuhan Flu. Plus all his racist tweets on twitter embolden white nationalists so they start killing PoCs. If Biden gets elected this will all stop.
You Sir have an interesting perspective on current events.
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And when you pack up to leave please take your choo choo trains, your tunnel, your Mayor, your pack of fools City council, your Sound Transit, your expensive car tab fees, your child sex education bill, your idiotic liberal agenda, and I hope that you have a good life in a larger Hell hole than King county is.
Good day.
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And when you pack up to leave please take your choo choo trains, your tunnel, your Mayor, your pack of fools City council, your Sound Transit, your expensive car tab fees, your child sex education bill, your idiotic liberal agenda, and I hope that you have a good life in a larger Hell hole than King county is.
Good day.
Don't forget about the safe injection sites.
Fvck it.. The east side is looking more promising everyday. The wet side is turning into an overpriced $hit box.
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Originally Posted By: erikj
Originally Posted By: Todd
From that bastion of Socialism...the Spokesman Review...
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Hard to dispute the math with a picture of a map.
Let me Google that for you...
"Okanagan and Stevens County also saw a 2-1 return on the amount of services it receives versus the amount of money collected."
"It showed King County accounts for 43.29% of all state tax revenues, yet, it only uses 27.41%. Instead, the millions of dollars raised in King County are used elsewhere across Washington state."
Stevens County ranks #24 in tax revenue, but #2 in tax spending. They receive twice as many dollars as they collect, thanks to King County, mainly, that gets .63 on the dollar for every tax dollar it collects.
"Small eastern Washington counties top the list if it’s scored by a ratio of help received to taxes paid. Okanogan County got back $2.07 in spending for every $1 it sent to Olympia in taxes. No. 2 is Stevens County at an even $2 coming in for $1 out, and No. 3 is Adams County, at $1.98 in for every $1 out."
This is the same story nationally...shithole states like Kentucky, where McConnell bitches all day about Socialism, are the biggest Socialists in the country, sucking tax dollars off the government [Bleeeeep!] at twice the rate they put in...not shockingly, Washington is high on the list of donor states to those "rugged individualists", too.
In five minutes you can Google a thousand reports and articles on this.
You can thank Seattle for the public roads you drive on today, and the rest of hte infrastructure you use...Stevens County didn't pay for them, my tax dollars did...and I don't even mind, it's my state over there, too...I just get tired of the bitching about those Seattle liberals from those who benefit the most from them, daily.
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Originally Posted By: erikj
Originally Posted By: Todd
From that bastion of Socialism...the Spokesman Review...
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Hard to dispute the math with a picture of a map.
lol
It's hard to dispute period or you would have.
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Damn right, bitches. You send your tax money to Thurston county, and we'll keep it nice and safe for you.
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In Thurton's defense, it is the seat of Gubmint. They (legislature, Supreme Court, Gov, agencies) are all payed by taxpayer funds.
We kinda all should be paying for Thurston County.
And as I said above, I don't have a problem making sure all of our counties, and all of our citizens, have the infrastructure necessary to live and work, and if the places that generate all of the tax money we need subsidize the counties that aren't able to do that, I have no problem with that,either...all of it is all of our state.
I just get sick of the right wing whiners who are the actual Socialists bitching about those damn libruhls that are paying their way. They sound like 13 year olds bitching about having to live under such tyranny while having their home, food, clothing, etc., paid for by those damn tyrants.
The more liberal and Democratic your city/county is, the more likely it is you are paying into the system that takes care of everyone, and the more Republican/conservative your city/county is, the more likely it is that you are on the receiving end of those tax dollars.
Same thing goes nationally...those damn libruhls in California, New York, New Jersey, Washington...they're paying for all those fuckkhead rednecks bitching about Socialism in the south and thru the middle of the country.
Just like with sullen teenagers...they want to bitch, send them a bill and let them buy their right to bitch about it.
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Originally Posted By: RICH G
Wonder what Seattle will look like in 6 months, probably not too good since they wont have any money. 10 times worse than Detroit in 1/10th the time
Anyone else here sick of Eeyore's doom and gloom bullsh!t and end of times predictions that never come true?
What a butthole you are, RICH.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell. I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.
In Thurton's defense, it is the seat of Gubmint. They (legislature, Supreme Court, Gov, agencies) are all payed by taxpayer funds.
We kinda all should be paying for Thurston County.
And as I said above, I don't have a problem making sure all of our counties, and all of our citizens, have the infrastructure necessary to live and work, and if the places that generate all of the tax money we need subsidize the counties that aren't able to do that, I have no problem with that,either...all of it is all of our state.
I just get sick of the right wing whiners who are the actual Socialists bitching about those damn libruhls that are paying their way. They sound like 13 year olds bitching about having to live under such tyranny while having their home, food, clothing, etc., paid for by those damn tyrants.
The more liberal and Democratic your city/county is, the more likely it is you are paying into the system that takes care of everyone, and the more Republican/conservative your city/county is, the more likely it is that you are on the receiving end of those tax dollars.
Same thing goes nationally...those damn libruhls in California, New York, New Jersey, Washington...they're paying for all those fuckkhead rednecks bitching about Socialism in the south and thru the middle of the country.
Just like with sullen teenagers...they want to bitch, send them a bill and let them buy their right to bitch about it.
Fish on...
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Todd, I read the links you posted. Turns out, socialism is not based on 'fair' redistribution of wealth. It is redistributed by the whims of mostly corrupt government officials. Reduce waste and corruption by limiting the size of government.
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So the golden rule then?
It doesn't matter what the political system, those who control the beans, call the shots.
Same as it ever was.
Since there is no perfect system, I vote for the system that cost effectively provides the most hookers and blow. While I won't partake in either the hookers or blow, that's the system that seems like the most fun. It's always about fun. That's why nobody wants to live in Russia.
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Just like with sullen teenagers...they want to bitch, send them a bill and let them buy their right to bitch about it.
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You city boys, in Seattle, enjoy the cheapest power in the nation at the expense of our once legendary salmon/steelhead runs. Just like the Pebble mine scenario, only a different resource. Our runs are gone forever so you can power up your device and rant about your superiority. Liberals are phonies at best.
You city boys, in Seattle, enjoy the cheapest power in the nation at the expense of our once legendary salmon/steelhead runs. Just like the Pebble mine scenario, only a different resource. Our runs are gone forever so you can power up your device and rant about your superiority. Liberals are phonies at best.
Says the guy using an electric device and the electric internet.
Agree with the "expense of our once legendary salmon/steelhead runs" sentiment, though. That surely sucks.
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I gotta say...I could watch that Hill Dawg .gif all day. It's sooooooooo frickin' funny to me and I don't know why. I'm dying laughing here and I've seen it a million times. It's just the best .gif expression regardless of the original context. I literally spend half my day making this exact same expression...both in my favor and in my defense. The Hillz nailed it. 10/10 Mary Lou Retton.
Oh I how miss the Hillz.
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Good one. That might be the dumbest false equivalency yet...never mind the fact that the when any mentioning dams being removed, guess who fights it?
A couple of those dams are owned by counties (not Stevens), but all were built with federal dollars, not local dollars...it's more Socialism, only for farmers.
How well do you think Stevens County's already meager tax receipts would be without Lake Roosevelt? Think you need taking care of now, let's remove the tourist dollars, too...dollars that also come from out of the area.
Good one. That might be the dumbest false equivalency yet...never mind the fact that the when any mentioning dams being removed, guess who fights it?
A couple of those dams are owned by counties (not Stevens), but all were built with federal dollars, not local dollars...it's more Socialism, only for farmers.
How well do you think Stevens County's already meager tax receipts would be without Lake Roosevelt? Think you need taking care of now, let's remove the tourist dollars, too...dollars that also come from out of the area.
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Todd
You enjoy the cheapest power in the nation at the expense of our natural resources.
How about current events? Liberals claim that any benefits from Hydroxychloroquine against Covid are anecdotal, yet George Floyd's death "proves" all whites in the U.S. are racist. Phonies.
As hospitals were overrun by coronavirus patients in other parts of the world, the Army Corps of Engineers mobilized in the U.S., hiring private contractors to build emergency field hospitals around the country.
The endeavor cost more than $660 million, according to an NPR analysis of federal spending records.
But nearly four months into the pandemic, most of these facilities haven't treated a single patient.
You city boys, in Seattle, enjoy the cheapest power in the nation at the expense of our once legendary salmon/steelhead runs. Just like the Pebble mine scenario, only a different resource. Our runs are gone forever so you can power up your device and rant about your superiority. Liberals are phonies at best.
Wrong. Grant County enjoys the cheapest power in the nation, not Seattle. In fact, Grant County sells its power (from Wanapum and Priest Rapids dams on the Columbia River) to other utilities at slightly higher rates to further subsidize its own Grant Co. customers. NTTAWWT, of course.
You city boys, in Seattle, enjoy the cheapest power in the nation at the expense of our once legendary salmon/steelhead runs. Just like the Pebble mine scenario, only a different resource. Our runs are gone forever so you can power up your device and rant about your superiority. Liberals are phonies at best.
Wrong. Grant County enjoys the cheapest power in the nation, not Seattle. In fact, Grant County sells its power (from Wanapum and Priest Rapids dams on the Columbia River) to other utilities at slightly higher rates to further subsidize its own Grant Co. customers. NTTAWWT, of course.
Trump is a disaster as a president. Everyone knows this, but his remaining 'supporters' are too embarrassed to admit it.
Look at how these Trumper retards write off cities like a waste of space. Those cities represent millions of lives, but you been wronged so much you say fuk them.
You just keep upping the anger. Pretty soon you will say [Bleeeeep!] the planet earth because it harbors liberals.
You are pathetic. Truly wet hot garbage.
You need to find a constructive way to release your rage.
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Maybe he's born with it.
You are the biggest snowflake here. Writing off millions of people and their life styles in a free country just because you didn’t get all you wanted in life.
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Maybe he's born with it.
Also, do you even know what entitled means? You sound more entitled than anyone on this site. You are are constantly bitter and angry like someone took what you feel you are entitled to. Get it? You are a snowflake, and the worst kind.
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Google some more Evo. Your references compare overall electric rates by state. The issue at hand is the allegation that Seattle has the cheapest power in the nation, which is not the same as the average power cost in WA state. Grant Co. has cheaper power than Seattle and cheaper than any other public or private utility anywhere in the country. All you have to do is look it up.
Good one. That might be the dumbest false equivalency yet...never mind the fact that the when any mentioning dams being removed, guess who fights it?
A couple of those dams are owned by counties (not Stevens), but all were built with federal dollars, not local dollars...it's more Socialism, only for farmers.
How well do you think Stevens County's already meager tax receipts would be without Lake Roosevelt? Think you need taking care of now, let's remove the tourist dollars, too...dollars that also come from out of the area.
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Todd
You enjoy the cheapest power in the nation at the expense of our natural resources.
Enjoy your fantasy, currently BPA is getting killed on the spot energy market. Cost of BPA power is almost double that of renewables. I see cracks in big fvckin dams.
Also, do you even know what entitled means? You sound more entitled than anyone on this site. You are are constantly bitter and angry like someone took what you feel you are entitled to. Get it? You are a snowflake, and the worst kind.
Also, do you even know what entitled means? You sound more entitled than anyone on this site. You are are constantly bitter and angry like someone took what you feel you are entitled to. Get it? You are a snowflake, and the worst kind.
Snowflake meltdown!!
Yes, so much winning for the retards lately, they must be sick of it.
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Side note: About half of Seattle City Light's hydroelectricity comes from two dams that they own.
Puget Sound Energy, which almost all of the rest of western Washington, gets zero percent of their energy from the BPA...theirs is about 1/3 gas generation, 1/3 coal generated, and 1/3 hydroelectric.
The 1/3 hydro comes form their own dams on the Baker, Snoqualmie Falls, and Puyallup Rivers...shockingly, none of which are in Stevens County, or anywhere in eastern Washington.
So even those Socialist BPA dams don't do much for those damn libruhls in western Washington.
Exactly. Damn hippy Capitalists having their tax dollars redistributed to those conservative Socialists.
Someone should pass a law, I tell ya.
I cheer every time I see a bunch of ignorant fools calling to make their own State of Jefferson to avoid they tyranny of those damn hippies.
They would immediately lose half of their revenue, and the minute they had to start paying for their own services they'd be broke.
Maybe they can eat dams.
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Todd
Grand Coulee Dam is the largest hydropower producer in the United States, generating more than 21 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity each year.
If Stevens County had their salmon and steelhead runs restored by the removal of said dam you would experience a large spike in power rates. You can connect the dots.
If Stevens County had their salmon and steelhead runs restored by the removal of said dam you would experience a large spike in power rates. You can connect the dots.
Your rates would go up even more and you could learn to eat sagebrush and sand.
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
So, just to recap...
Stevens County is a Socialist county that has its revenues doubled by having King County send over billions of dollars in cash, from our tax dollars.
Our wealth is re-distributed, you might say.
This is countered...and let me make sure I have this right...by a gigantic federal Socialist program, the BPA, and somehow the Socialists in Stevens County get credit for this, because this giant Federal Socialist program, Grand Coulee Dam, is in eastern Washington, but not even in Stevens County, but is in fact three counties away, in Douglas County?
This...is literally the type of logic that conservative Socialists bring to the table.
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0
Ya but............The water had to pass from that county to Stevens.
Truth.
It also had to pass thru Canada, so does that make the water more, or less, Socialist?
On a more serious note, as noted above a few times, I don't mind this situation. Washington State is Washington State. I have family in Stevens County, and have re-distributed a few turkey dinners from there back to King County
We're all one state, and we all pay in, and we all get back. If Stevens County doesn't have the revenue for its services, then the counties that have the revenue should help out...it's literally how it works.
I think Washington State is better for having Stevens County just as it is, I'd rather it be more wild and less developed, and if that means less tax revenue, then that means less tax revenue. It's still worth it.
(though Stevens County does continually vote down any increases in their property taxes, knowing they can rely on King County to make up the difference for them)
I just get tired of the handwringing and butthurting from those that have no problem taking the money, but still complain about the tyranny of those who are providing it.
Dan S.
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
This argument is like the left and right hand fighting and neither of them remembering that they're both punching their own face.
Fuckin stupid.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell. I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.
I wish that every single "self-reliant" b!tch that whines about Seattle would take an actual stand against Seattle...by picketing their own county courthouse, insisting that they immediately stop taking tax dollars from all those people with jobs in Seattle, and start paying their own ways.
Dan S.
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: RabidAngler
Originally Posted By: erikj
Originally Posted By: ReefSkunk
erikaj seems upset.
Lol.
You haven't even reached phony status. You contribute nothing.
I disagree, ReefSkunk contributes more in that fish pictures thread than anything I've ever seen spew out of your keyboard.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell. I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.
Dan S.
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: DCC
They've turned "us against them" into us against us.
I wonder who benefits the most from all this conflict in the US?
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell. I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.
Just cuz energy and hydro has long been a thing for me, I gotta' correct Todd. Seattle gets about half its electric energy from 5 dams in owns and operates, 3 on the upper Skagit River, one on Newhalem Creek, and one at Boundary on the Pend Oreille River. The other half comes from a combination of BPA and other utility contracts and the energy spot market.
Puget Sound Energy generates only a small amount of the power it sells. The Baker dams, Snoqualmie Falls, and Electron (which it sold to another private company about 5 years ago) provide a small fraction of PSE's energy. A lot comes from long term sales contracts with Chelan, Douglas, and Grant PUD dams on the mid-Columbia. It's worth noting that those 3 counties couldn't secure financing on their own to build their 5 mid-C dams. It was the long-term energy sales contracts with PSE (its predecessor actually) that swung the deal to finance those big dams.
The next 2 dams on the Columbia, Chief Joseph and Grand Coulee, are major socialist projects, built and operated by the Bureau of Reclamation, whose associated irrigation projects makes much of eastern WA inhabitable and economically productive. Absent the socialism, most of that area would remain an unproductive dustbowl.
The fishing is a very good for large trout and walleye right in front of my house, so Grand Coolee dam was worth it.
But it was great for large kings and steelhead right out front prior to the dam.
The local Indians were the ones harvesting those fish for sustenance, which meant it was fine to wipe out the runs to build the dam......and their villages now located at the bottom of the lake.
The fishing is a very good for large trout and walleye right in front of my house, so Grand Coolee dam was worth it.
But it was great for large kings and steelhead right out front prior to the dam.
The local Indians were the ones harvesting those fish for sustenance, which meant it was fine to wipe out the runs to build the dam......and their villages now located at the bottom of the lake.