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#1032398 - 06/19/20 10:42 AM Perfect example why Women should not be Cops....
Sol Duc Offline
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What a chit show this was. She damn near killed the home owner. Then she couldn't re-holster her sidearm. Leave this job to Men. The Man that puts his shoe into the face of the perp was text book. rofl



Edited by Sol Duc (06/19/20 10:44 AM)
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#1032450 - 06/19/20 02:01 PM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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#1032501 - 06/20/20 08:10 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
RICH G
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Being totally honest regarding my experience with women in Law Enforcement.

Women become cops for one reason "power". They cannot do what men can do(limited by genetics), they are a liability at all times because they don't have the strength to over power men if the situation requires. I have seen women killed in the line of duty for this very reason, (man decided some bitch was not going to make him do [Bleeeeep!] so he took her gun and killed her). That is exactly what happened to Forest Service cop Christine Fairbanks up Palo Alto road in Sequim.

Female cops are also home wreckers, all but one I ever knew would [Bleeeeep!] any cop married or not. Female cops are mostly phucked up in the head like all other women accept they carry a gun.

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#1032502 - 06/20/20 08:16 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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Add misogynist to the list for Rich. If they are strong enough to meet the standards then who cares. There are plenty of women who could kick your a$$ in a jiffy. Some seem to get passed through that are pretty weak though.
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#1032505 - 06/20/20 08:22 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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Not everyone makes it in life past moving out of their parents home. Take Jake and Evo for example.
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#1032508 - 06/20/20 08:43 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
RICH G
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What I said about female cops is true. When I was in the academy we had half a dozen who were all married. The whole class was screwing each other for the most part and most were married. I blew the whystle on them because one of the skanks was sexually harassing me, (married and 5 kids). The academy staff just smiled at me, did not say a word, no response to my written letter. Fraternization was a major violation and you were supposed to get kicked out for it, apparently that is only what the public is supposed to think.

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#1032510 - 06/20/20 08:50 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
RICH G
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You people have no phucking idea. What is happening to cops is justified . The entire criminal justice system is corrupted, not all cops are bad but the entire system is corrupted to the point it cannot be fixed without being completely destroyed and rebuilt.

One of the biggest problems we have is the fact our justice system is under Maritime Law and not Constitutional Law. They got to fix that first before the rest can get unscrewed.

Attorneys and Judges need to be retrained and the courtrooms need to be re-configured. Currently the court rooms are set up for Maritime law, (its a ritualistic thing), to comply with how the law is set up. No more American Flag with Gold fringe in the court room or in government buildings. Gold fringe is a military flag, it signifies we are in a state of war and under Maritime Law.

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#1032512 - 06/20/20 08:57 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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Maritime law, lol. I love some of the YouTube videos about road pirates being harassed by cops. Donut Operator has some great ones. Rich, you definitely remind of those guys.

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#1032513 - 06/20/20 08:59 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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Rich totally thinks he's a sovereign citizen. Snitch.

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#1032517 - 06/20/20 09:10 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
RICH G
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everything has meaning.

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#1032583 - 06/20/20 03:10 PM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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I'm not buying into that all Cops are bad. Sure there are some that shouldn't wear the badge. Probably about 80/20...eighty being good. I have no problem with Woman being detectives, but not patrol.

The last thing I would want to see when calling for back up, is a 5'2" 110 lb Woman. crazy I think most Cops would rather see a 6' 190 lb Man show up. The same thing with the military...just not natural.

I would make an exception for a triage Nurse. 2cents
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#1032679 - 06/21/20 07:21 PM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: RICH G
everything has meaning.


rofl

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#1032683 - 06/21/20 08:29 PM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: ]
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#1032703 - 06/22/20 10:22 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: RICH G
everything has meaning.


Whoa.

Deep.

Like your bunker.

Fish on...

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#1032707 - 06/22/20 10:37 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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This thread is a perfect example of why Rich and Slo shouldn’t be cops. I guess we can put you in the same pool as all women.
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#1032708 - 06/22/20 10:48 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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This case may make sense, but in the real world, as Sol Duc state, who do you want for back up.

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Fitness Test Ruled Unfair to Female Officers
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DENVER (CN) – A federal judge has ruled in favor of 12 police officers with the Colorado Springs Police Department, finding the department’s new physical-fitness tests have a disparate impact on women.

U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch found the 12 female police officers successfully argued that the Colorado Springs Police Department’s new physical-fitness tests resulted in a 50 percent failure rate for female officers, while only 6 percent of male officers failed. In his opinion, Matsch concluded that the tests violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits sexual discrimination by employers.

Colorado Springs Police Chief Peter Carey issued an order in September 2014 that required all sworn police officers to take a fitness test every year that consisted of push-ups, sit-ups, and running.

“That order announced that ‘any employee who does not meet the minimum performance standard will be placed on light duty and on a performance improvement plan (PIP) until he/she can successfully complete the process with a minimum score of twenty,’” Matsch wrote in his July 12 order.

All 12 female officers failed the 2014 tests, and nine passed after secondary testing. Three of the officers have yet to pass.

The officers brought a disparate impact discrimination claim against the department in April 2015. The five-day trial took place in late October and early November 2016.

The 21-page opinion said that at the trial, the department didn’t show the tests used proper cutoff scores. The tests and criteria for passing, which were curated by the Maryland-based Human Performance Systems Inc., were “not reliable assessments of job performance, and the cutoff score set by HPS is an arbitrary score,” Matsch wrote.

Industrial-organizational psychologist Dr. Kurt Kraiger testified as an expert witness for the plaintiffs, and said the 2013 practice fitness tests showed a glaring difference between the male and female officers’ scores: 90.5 percent of the men passed, while only 59.7 percent of the women passed.

Kraiger said HPS’s tests were not only faulty – he had “detected a flaw in how the BEEP test was being scored” that HPS has since acknowledged – but he also testified the tests were not a reliable gauge of job performance.

“Dr. Kraiger reviewed HPS’s work and opined that HPS did not use an appropriate method for determining the cutoff scores for the PAT [physical abilities test],” Matsch wrote. “He observed that using criterion measures to set passing scores is problematic. The evidence presented at trial bore that out. The criterion measures developed by HPS are of questionable value.”

He added, “Most significantly, the evidence presented at trial revealed that the scoring system and cut-off score selected by HPS are meaningless.”

Matsch said a similar fitness test might be a reasonable way to vet new, incoming recruits, but that putting seasoned officers through the test was unnecessary – and the officers experienced mistreatment after they failed the tests, Matsch said.

“The failure to pass initially has had a devastating effect on the plaintiffs who have had to endure the indignity of being denied recognition as a police officer by the restrictions imposed by the department,” Matsch wrote. “They have been shamed and ostracized.”

He added, “To retroactively impose that requirement on women who have invested their lives as career police officers is fundamentally unfair. That is not to say that there can be no fitness requirement to maintain employment, but to use physical tests that are not valid measures of the level of fitness that job duties actually require is a violation of Title VII when, as here, there is a disparate impact on women officers.”

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#1032710 - 06/22/20 11:40 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: RICH G
everything has meaning.


Whoa.

Deep.

Like your bunker.

Fish on...

Todd


I'll take the nihilist approach and say that if everything has meaning, then nothing has meaning.

Put that in yer' PCP pipe and smoke it Rich. Marinate.
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#1032745 - 06/22/20 04:36 PM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
RICH G
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Have you ever even seen PCP, just asking because I was a cop for 15 years and never saw it once.

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#1032751 - 06/22/20 05:33 PM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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rofl
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#1032785 - 06/23/20 09:24 AM Re: Perfect example why Women should not be Cops.... [Re: Sol Duc]
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If women aren't capable of being police officers are they capable of being criminals?

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