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#1033394 - 06/28/20 10:10 AM This is why we can't have nice things...
NickD90 Offline
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OMG!

Good going Olympia "Muh Rights!" Trumpy Wipipo! Idiots.
rofl

And then there's these "Florida Man" idiots right here....

What the ever lovin' fvck is going on?

Are you fookin' serious?

Every day I wake up, check the news, shake my head and let loose a deep sigh. It's been this way for well over a decade. I seriously don't even know any longer - about any of it. I'm close to just giving up entirely.

Everybody please just stop.

I figure if I ask nicely, it could really happen right? I have nothing left to lose at this point.

So yeah, everybody please just stop. Thank you for your cooperation.
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#1033395 - 06/28/20 10:16 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
dwatkins Offline
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Sometimes I think about moving to Belize, these past few
Months even more often. But honestly, I still love the USA despite all its flaws.


Maybe the shampoo sniffer will right the ship?
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#1033396 - 06/28/20 10:32 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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I don't think any single person can fix this and if I did, they'd have my vote. IMO - neither Trump nor Biden will be the answer. We are on our own. Happy Sunday.

Gonna go work in the garden, feed some chickens and think about whether a grizzly bear or a gorilla would win a fight...
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#1033397 - 06/28/20 11:10 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: NickD90
I don't think any single person can fix this and if I did, they'd have my vote. IMO - neither Trump nor Biden will be the answer. We are on our own. Happy Sunday.

Gonna go work in the garden, feed some chickens and think about whether a grizzly bear or a gorilla would win a fight...





Grizzly bear - and it wouldn't be close.

The largest recorded gorilla taken by a hunter weighed in at about 600 lbs. A large boar grizzly can tip the scales at over 1700 lbs. - with big fuckin' teeth and claws.

That fight would be over faster than the one between Beezy and Evo.
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#1033402 - 06/28/20 01:57 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
ondarvr Offline
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Promoting a fight between a grizzly and a gorilla would make headlines on every news channel, then be followed by lawsuits, fines and jail time.

Promoting a fight between DS misfits would make for a viral YouTube fail.

But legal and with possible profits, exploting stupid can can be $$$$.

It kind of shows where people fit in.

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#1033403 - 06/28/20 02:02 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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The most disappointing thing is how there is an overall lack of tolerance from either side. The days of respectful dialogue and conversations are gone. The days of agreeing to disagree are gone. If you disagree with something a person says, you must now hate that person.

It’s pretty sad.


Edited by Streamer (06/28/20 02:05 PM)
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#1033404 - 06/28/20 02:04 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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Dan you'll be pleased to know that after some deep and thoughtful contemplation whist planting a small crop of beets, I've determined that you are in fact...correct.

I'm going Team Grizzly.
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#1033410 - 06/28/20 03:02 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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I doubt these idiots make up 3%. Probably less than 1 /10th of 1%, which is still too many. Considering what has been going Seattle, I think the extremes all contain too many of the same, radical idiots.

If you read the Olympia report, the organizers were trying to get him off stage. Yes, probably to keep the world for seeing what idiots many of their followers were, but even among these idiots there were those who tried to end it.

If someone blames conservatives, or even this group, for what happened in Olympia and in Florida, then we have to blame the liberals for everything that happened in the Seattle protests and CHOP. Idiots exist. Understand that. Have faith in your neighbor. Ignore the inane, love those who are different for what they bring, and realize we all are more alike then different.

In 1977 there was a march of KKK members in Skokie, Pennsylvania, at town with large numbers of Holocaust survivors. I had a very liberal teacher who pointed out that the march was on a Saturday, the Sabbath for Jews. What would have happened, he asked, if the synagogues had opened up early and had special meetings all day. Perhaps a celebration of life for those who lived. Nothing would be funnier then watching several hundred Klansmen walking down empty streets, yelling at no one.

The best we could do is just ignore these idiots, no matter which side they are on.

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#1033415 - 06/28/20 03:25 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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Word on the streets....

So Sasha Baron Cohen totally trolled that Olympia 3%'r rally with his little sing along stunt. Awesome! Perfect. Well done. The rest of the story is he was escorted out from under a rush of security protection and made his escape away from the venue.

But get this chit.

This motherfvcker, immediately switched into an entirely different redneck costume, went back to the venue where all of these losers were already going nuts, slid right on in and covertly filmed himself gleefully cheering on the feeding frenzy, that he, himself had caused.

There are trolls and then there's SBC. The absolute balls on this guy. God status has been obtained. Respect and a tip of the cap.


Edited by NickD90 (06/28/20 03:25 PM)
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#1033416 - 06/28/20 03:39 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Todd Offline
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He is the king of the trolls, for sure...

Fish on...

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#1033421 - 06/28/20 06:01 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Streamer Offline
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I always knew I liked SBC... Definitely one of the best trolls I’ve ever seen or heard of.
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#1033424 - 06/28/20 07:39 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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I was driving through downtown yesterday wondering what all the fucktards were doing wandering around in their idiot outfits.

I'm glad to hear that they were getting together to get clowned for being the fuckin' retards they are. SBC always has the best bait.
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#1033425 - 06/28/20 08:50 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Todd Offline
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There's a next round of videos featuring the leader of the Covidiots, explaining how it was all funded by Soros and the DNC, and calling for an FBI investigation.

Ever noticed how the resilient individual types...self-titled, of course...act like a bunch of fuckin Karens when they want to call their lawyer and sue someone, or call the cops and have someone investigated or arrested, every single time they are inconvenienced by anything...anything at all?

Talk about fuckin' snowflakes.

This would have been a good time to just take their lumps and hope it goes away, instead they'll go all Fat Nixon and make into a far bigger deal than it is...I mean, SBC has clowned far smarter and far more sophisticated people than those dunderheads.

Fish on...

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#1033426 - 06/28/20 09:57 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Streamer]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Streamer
The most disappointing thing is how there is an overall lack of tolerance from either side. The days of respectful dialogue and conversations are gone. The days of agreeing to disagree are gone. If you disagree with something a person says, you must now hate that person.

It’s pretty sad.


Here's a nice little analogy for your pretend-reasonableness...

Right wing: Let's do a genocide!

Left wing: Let's don't!

Libertarian Centrists: Let's compromise, how about we just do half a genocide?

Right wing: Not exactly what we wanted, but sure, we can live with just half a genocide for now!

Left wing: You know, we're not going to support half a genocide either!

Libertarian Centrists: This is why we can't get anything done, the left wing is so unreasonable.

Fukk pretend-reasonableness to continue doing utter bullchit. The equivalencies are false equivalencies, and the two sides are not the same.

One is not perfect, and needs a lot of work. A lot of work.

One is a total fuckin dumpster fire full of Trumpanzees, white nationalists, police brutality apologists, racists, bigots and general assclowns. That side doesn't need "work", it needs to be burned to the fuckin ground.

Fish on...

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#1033427 - 06/28/20 10:18 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Todd]
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You're one fcked up person. crazy
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#1033428 - 06/28/20 10:37 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Streamer Offline
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Todd,


Your analogy is a pretty terrible analogy. “Libertarians Centrists” hold positions on issues and don’t always favor compromise. A more accurate analogy is like this:

Neo-Right Wings: We need to go to War in the Middle East... we need trillions to keep Murica safe from turrists. Pu$$y libruhls need to fork out the dough.
Neo-Left Wings: How dare you want to go to war in the Middle East. We want to go to war/aid in <insert random country> or “We want to give away free [Bleeeeep!]”
Libertarians: We don’t want to go to war unless it’s declared and necessary... and fvck off with the idea of government taking my money to give away free schit.

Then what happens is compromise. The left gets what they want as does the right. You want your bill passed, we want ours passed. We all win! When there is real tension, Dems block R’s bill, then R’s block Dem’s bill, etc. Americans are such shallow thinkers and think they have to pick D or R then parrot the pathetic talking points of each side without thinking for themselves. Truth be told R’s and D’s are all the fuckin’ same at this point and want to spend money or push their own agendas. Americans lose.

Both sides want spending for what they want while ignorant well intentioned socialists eagerly fork over their dough to corrupt bureaucrats who either piss it away or line their own pockets.
But you can pretend to feel good about yourself and continue to live naively hiding behind democratic socialism like it’s such a beautiful thing and believe you are making the world a fair and equitable place.The string pullers and shepherds on the left love you. Keep pretending they actually have your best interests at stake and that they are looking out for you. You’re more of a sheep to the left than Rich Gee is to the delusional thinking and voices in his head.


Edited by Streamer (06/28/20 10:45 PM)
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#1033430 - 06/29/20 07:08 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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#1033431 - 06/29/20 09:00 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
DCC Offline
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One question, what if the Gorilla has a machine gun?
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#1033432 - 06/29/20 09:03 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Streamer]
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Originally Posted By: Streamer

Libertarians: We don’t want to go to war unless it’s declared and necessary... and fvck off with the idea of government taking my money to give away free schit.


What is this free shitt that some of you are always harping about? Even when I was a young lad barely scraping by, I never got any free shitt.

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#1033434 - 06/29/20 09:08 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: DBS]
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Libertarians=Rand Paul=Party of POS's

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#1033435 - 06/29/20 09:24 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
Todd Offline
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That's because the "free schit" argument is a made up right wing blathering point.

The real "free schit" is the hundreds of billions of corporate welfare.

Fish on...

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#1033436 - 06/29/20 10:00 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd


The real "free schit" is the hundreds of billions of corporate welfare.



Not disagreeing with that. No “free schit” applies to everyone... and especially not wealthy corporations.


Edited by Streamer (06/29/20 10:04 AM)
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#1033437 - 06/29/20 10:11 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Streamer]
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Originally Posted By: Streamer
Originally Posted By: Todd


The real "free schit" is the hundreds of billions of corporate welfare.



Not disagreeing with that. No “free schit” applies to everyone... and especially not wealthy corporations.


So tax cuts for the rich that drive the deficit up over a trillion is a bad thing?
Ya I saw a the fvcking Libertarians raising all kinds of hell over that.
What I did see after that was Rand Paul questing how much the deficit would go up by compensating the 911 first responders.
What a fvcking piece of sh1t.

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#1033441 - 06/29/20 10:21 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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America has some of the highest corporate tax rates of any country in the world... but by far the biggest problem is that it has the highest expenditures of any country in the world. Cut the spending... cut the taxes. It’s simple enough for even you to understand.
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#1033444 - 06/29/20 10:41 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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What if the gorilla was owned by a former cop who taught it take-down techniques, choke holds and head slams against hard surfaces.

Bear Lives Matter!

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#1033445 - 06/29/20 11:18 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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rofl
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#1033448 - 06/29/20 11:57 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Streamer]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Streamer
America has some of the highest corporate tax rates of any country in the world... but by far the biggest problem is that it has the highest expenditures of any country in the world. Cut the spending... cut the taxes. It’s simple enough for even you to understand.


You are regurgitating yet another right wing Trumpian talking point...another false one.

The US's effective corporate tax rate is like 80th or 90th in the world...can't recall exactly, but it fluctuates in there.

Don't quote Trump...you know what that will get you.

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#1033455 - 06/29/20 12:54 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Streamer
America has some of the highest corporate tax rates of any country in the world... but by far the biggest problem is that it has the highest expenditures of any country in the world. Cut the spending... cut the taxes. It’s simple enough for even you to understand.


You are regurgitating yet another right wing Trumpian talking point...another false one.

The US's effective corporate tax rate is like 80th or 90th in the world...can't recall exactly, but it fluctuates in there.

Don't quote Trump...you know what that will get you.

Fish on...

Todd


You realize that just changed since Trump took office, right? Prior to 2018 you are incorrect. The United States had the 4th highest statutory corporate income tax rate in the world. Half of the problem has been solved... but if you cut taxes you must also cut spending... waiting for the orange man to finish the job... looking like he probably won’t.
https://taxfoundation.org/corporate-income-tax-rates-around-the-world-2017/
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#1033459 - 06/29/20 01:09 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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Grizzly schmizzly, Kung Flu Panda trumps all.
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#1033460 - 06/29/20 01:23 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: DCC]
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Trump will succeed where the Democrats have failed for generations.
He is going to stick a gigantic fork in the Republican Party.

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#1033468 - 06/29/20 03:21 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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Problem is not tax rate. The problem is tax loop holes and the way 401k's work in America. Take Amazon, they paid zero in Federal Taxes in 2018. They also paid no dividends. Result... no taxes to the Fed's. Since most of the gains are tax protected in 401k's, even the cash out goes largely untaxed. Most companies push increases in value over paying out dividends. They reinvest profits in ways to grow and avoid paying taxes. The sheep only see the increase in total value on their 401K and get excited.

Again, the current incentive is to take all profits, convert them in to tax free growth and expansion. This cuts the taxes payable. allowing the money to be invested tax free, showing higher the corporate value to growth. Multiply this over years, and this will show a much higher growth rate than the companies that show a profit and payout dividends. Since very few are getting the cash dividends in their pocket, the long term growth is more acceptable, as long as the company or economy doesn't crash.

This whole scenario, of course, creates huge wealth potential to those who can take advantage of the short term swings in value. Hence, a motive to drive stocks up and down by the very rich and powerful. Those who have the knowledge and ability to play the market make billions off the masses stuck in managed portfolios.

Drop corporate taxes to nothing, take away loopholes, require corporations to spend a percentage of total profit in dividends, before reinvestment, require 401k's to pay these dividends out in real time, and then tax them at a capital gains rate. Allow startups time to get established, say 5 years, before requiring the dividends, and allow different rates for some industries. Give Bio techs, perhaps, a lower payout then banks, since the requirement to reinvest in development is different.

Just crying about how corporations need a higher tax rate, which seems to the main liberal talking point, shows a lack of understanding.

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#1033469 - 06/29/20 03:29 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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Well that's a pretty friggin good writeup, KJ.

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#1033478 - 06/29/20 06:35 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things... [Re: NickD90]
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Great post, Krijack. Many excellent points well stated.
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