And you dumbfuks not living there makes it all the more liveable.

Okay some cities have been poorly governed into shitholes, so we should elect Trump to fix it, and go there with guns as MAGA mercenaries to improve them back to the ideal they once were?

No, to me Trump has nothing to do with it. He did nothing there until the federal buildings were tore up, broken into and such and even at that the Feds were told to leave. It's more of the frame of mind of the leadership there. They simply find it acceptable to have people living in tents, homeless camps, shitting on corners, shooting up on side walks, graffiti, littering everywhere and leadership in the city is doing nothing about it. Again, speaking with first hand experience on the last few occasion's I went down there. To each is their own, I just don't understand the mindset of allowing such a beautiful city become overran.

Keith

Not sure what it's like in rural Clark County, or Multanomah County, but there are a lot more homeless camps and drugs out in rural King and Snohomish counties than there are in Everett or Seattle, probably by a factor of 10.

Fish on...

Todd

So often we just get used to situations, and fail to see the full extent. Coming into Seattle, the problem is extremely obvious for those that visit.
I live in a fairly rough area. I have no problems with the area, but my brother always complains about how bad it is. I laugh at him, but... sometimes the problem becomes too clear. Like the time I took my 11 year old daughter to a red box and was approached by a homeless man asking for money, who then started to go in to a seizure in front of us ( I think an OD.) Oh well, I just started going to a different store. It was ok until someone pulled a gun on me as I was leaving. Last week, late at night, a man walking down the middle of the street appeared to get hit by the car in front of me. I slowly drove by as he rolled in the street. I was fairly sure he wasn't hit, so I just called 911 and kept driving. The operator response made me take pause. Her first question was not if the guy was ok, but rather if I saw anyone with a gun. I went a few blocks and drove back the other direction. Sure enough, he was standing on the side of the road talking to another guy that had come out of the shadows. The list goes on and on. Yet, I still pretend that there is nothing dangerous about the area. Because so often, what should alarm us, becomes normal.

It starts and ends with parenting.

Cool story, Rich. Sending you in to help is probably what got him. Way to go.

This one will end up in front of a Jury... Although the laws likely say he's screwed, there's a ton of video footage showing him doing as one is taught to do, retreat retreat retreat. He showed a ton of restraint before opening fire.

Sad to see it go down this way. He shouldn't have been there and shouldn't have been there with a gun in hand. Now he stands to see life in prison for such a stupid act.

Keith