Let's see the predictions here... Here's my go at it...

Maybe do a winner take all? If you want to guess, post your map or post your electoral county and contribute $5 to the kitty. Winner get's mailed a $5 check per person that enters their map or electoral count... Closest score to final electoral count wins.

We can see who the true flakes are on this board when the check's don't show...

My 2020 prediction. = 286-251 Trump...



Keith

Not sure how Keith would expect this to work if he can't actually come up with numbers that add up to 538!

Oregon a red state?
What have you been drinking, Trump Vodka?
Oregon hasn't elected a Republican Governor in over 35 years.
You'll find a few Brokeback Mt. Republicans east of the mountains, but the big majority of the state vote Democratic or independent.
My prediction is Democrats win by a landslide and control the WH, House and Senate.
But for me this isn't over until that flaghumpin draftdodger pussbag and his crooked family are all in jail.

324-214 for Biden.

Democrats pick up 7-9 seats in the House, and four seats in the Senate.

Fish on...

Todd

Oh crap. Toff did it *again*.

Trump in late for the win.

Thanks Obama....er...no...wait.

Thanks Toff. It's all your fault!

Hahahahhaa, Oregon was for you Illahee.. You bit the bait and swallowed it!

And, Bev Clarno is the only Oregon state wide official in Oregon, she happens to be Republican and actually quite the woman, I knew her quite well at one point..

Keith

Hey, I didn't do the math. Typical CNN click and play and map from their website, crooked with their numbers!

Keith

So Brokeback Republican?
Currently Biden has a 20 point lead over the stable genius.

The interactive maps only work if you click on and assign every state...leave any out, and you won't add up to 538

Fish on...

Todd

342 - 146 Biden in a landslide! Book it!

That’s the longest post from you I’ve ever seen!!! Yet it is oozing with pure hatred. What a sad life you must live.

I am going with the opposite of whatever Toff and Illaheshe puts down. I hate to say it but I hope Biden gets it, I don't like him, but considering the direction we are going, change is needed!

I think Trump gets another run, hope I am wrong

My prediction is Trump again wins narrowly in the electoral college, goes on mic and calls Republicans and Democrats foul names, slurs about how everyone is against him, acts as if he was disrespected, and steps into a full dictator role.

He will go after everyone with a vengeance, everyone. Nobody believed in him in either election, now it’s payback time.

Has anyone truly considered how off the rails Trump will be if he wins again?

My numbers above reflect Trump winning Texas, which is a ton of electoral votes...but that's not a sure thing for him by any means. Today's polls have Texas as a dead heat between Trump and Biden.

Fish on...

Todd

Yeah, should the election go to Biden it will be interesting on who he pardon's. I agree there. Roger Stone is probably one that will get the free pass and don't forget about Julian Assange...

Keith

S.M.O.D. 538 - Humanity 0

The only thing for certain will be sand & salt. Lots and lots of sand & salt. Salty sand and sandy salt.

Oh...and JFK Jr's belated return. That's a given. I mean...er duh?

Looking forward to pulling plugs in a river of tears.
Steamer, you might want to start cleaning out your locker.

I think you need Jesus...

Keith

I wouldn’t be so sure, Illshee. It will be a close race... but one that ultimately Trump will probably win.

The DS will be different with one of us gone.

If Trump wins this election I will leave PP forever.

Well I'm voting for Sushi Combo with a side of baked mussels. That always wins.



On the election...hmmm... Biden 333 - trump 205.

The great thing about being an independent moderate is that I get to make fun on all of you AND I don't have to go anywhere.

You should all try much harder to be awesome like me. It's way easier and a lot more fun!

Suckers.

Drop kick me Jesus through the goalposts of life.

And therein lies some of the problem with America today, we seem to be incapable of doing the critical thinking needed in order to ascertain fact from fiction. Some would say that is why we have a Con man in the White House!

Critical thinking.... That's where the left comes in, but it's that fictional part that's the problem.

Keith

The biggest source of stupid is relying on Fox and Friends for the facts.
Right Keith?

Nah, they all struggle with telling the truth... Even your left sided folks too.

press accuracy

I guess the biggest difference is my news sources haven't had to go to court to argue they had a Constitutional right to lie and call it news.
See right there going to college paid off, see most people would run like hell from any news organization that made that claim.
But not Trumpanzees, nope they scraff that entertainment news up like left over pizza at a ganja convention.

You too can STFU.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/edit...-a-news-source/

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/22/npr...amount-to-much/

Illshee’s thought process:

Republicans, Trump, Fox, anyone/anything I disagree with = BAD

Therefore

Democrats, Biden, MSNBC, people who agree with me = MUST BE GOOD


Illshee is probably the most deranged individual in the darkside after Richie G. Third place doesn’t even come close.

Bump this up.

Who is going to win? Differing polls

Slowly climbing the ladder....

Keith

So Keith please clear something up for me, as a political science student it's always puzzled me why middle to lower middle class people vote Republican.
Voting against one's own economic best interests has baffled me, so Keith can you please elaborate?

Taxes aren’t the number one reason people vote to the right. Imho the largest portion are those that want less government.

Just my .02

Keith

So your willing to give up more money for less government?
And can you give an example of a Republican President that actually made the government smaller.

Trump is attempting to get more control over every aspect of the government and citizens. It's very difficult to conceal that right now.

Both excellent examples of why as a moderate conservative I do not endorse a trump. But here it comes...

Trumpguzzler! Evo-tardness!

No dimwit it's the "they are both the same" horeseshit you spout.

It appears the emotion clouds your judgement.

305 - 233 Biden. As the bonus answer, Biden wins the popular vote by 5 to 7 million votes and the Senate flips Democratic with either a 1 vote majority or by having Kamala Harris as the tiebreaker. House stays Dem with maybe a few extra seats.

Cutting taxes drives up the deficit, Republicans are only fiscally conservative when their not in power.
Same goes for smaller government, they talk a good story when they don't have power, but when elected they spend and grow the government by leaps and bounds.
Maybe you have to go to college to see that, but it's true, Republican Presidents fvck the deficit every time.

Cutting taxes only works if you ALSO cut spending. Both parties love spending. One party loves raising taxes and spending. One party loves cutting taxes but doesn’t follow through on cutting spending. The deficit will grow no matter who is in power.

Only one way drives up the deficit way more than the other.
Which one do you think that is short timer?

The Biden ship is sinking.

Can't wait to hear you liberals here crying and moaning.

Glad someone said it

Lower the life boats.

I wouldn't underestimate the power of a lot of really pissed off Americans.

I don't.
I give them 100% of the credit for being idiots that need to visit an anger management counselor.

That's not the only thing going down in SW Washington. Tension rising in Clark County.

Maybe I'm just not "woke" enough, but examples like this are where the Black Lives Matter movement undermines itself. When an unarmed black who cannot attack police, yet is shot and killed by police, that is truly a travesty of justice and should be protested and more. However, many of the blacks who are shot by police are armed and threatening or even shooting at police. They might as well pin a target on themselves; that's just asking to be shot. It ain't rocket science to know that if you assault or attempt to assault an armed citizen or police officer, you're going to get your azz shot.

It's too bad that the black man near Vancouver was shot and killed, but he was armed and running from police and is reported to have shot at police. The end of that story writes itself; of course he was going to be shot. You don't even have to be black for that ending to happen.

My anecdotal observations lead me to think Trump will eek out another four years.

My mother, a lifelong Democrat after four years of living on dt Seattle voted straight republican. I asked what the final straw was and it was CHOP, specifically when they attacked and had to close the soup kitchen she volunteered at three days a week.

My cousin, a lifelong Democrat and public school teacher in Portland voted straight republican. I asked her what the final straw was and it was antifa twice invading her neighborhood the second time setting fires during the big fire storm resulting in warning evacuation orders. Fortunately none of those fires took off.

I walk my neighborhood daily. What used to be 100’s of Obama yard signs, a dozen Clinton signs is now two, yes two, Biden signs. There’s more Culp signs than Biden signs. I’ve yet to see an Inslee yard sign.

Yesterday in Lynnwood at what’s locally called “freedom corner” there where about 50 or so Trump supporters. Now this is where the anti war crowd spent their weekends during the Bush/Obama years but for some reason no longer exist?? Anyway there was one Biden supporter, a white lady, screaming “racist scum” and “hail Trump” at a white family. Across the street where two black families waving their Trump and American flags. While sitting at the red light dozens of cars drove thru honking and waving their support.

I thought Clinton would win four years ago because I believed the polls and not my eyeballs but this time I figure Trumps got it. But I did see a Biden sign in Brewster so I might not be reading the tea leaves correctly.

I do know that if Trump wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know that if Biden wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know if it’s close and contested the far left will burn [Bleeeeep!] down.

And finally I know that federal gun background checks will continue in that 3 million a month range. We are all Americans after all . Now if only the ammo manufactures can get their supply chain fixed!

p.s. I’m seriously thinking of spending Tue and Wed night in the mountains so I miss the whole mess.

This, with the minor edit.

No one side will take the loss well and will throw a major temper tantrum.

Pains me to say it, but I'm still predicting that Trump will get re-elected. Only because the numb-nuts who voted for him in the first place are still that. Numb nuts. They will vote for him again.

I'm already looking forward to the 2024 election where I am hopeful that after 4 more years of our country going to crap and being the laughing stock of the world, both the left and the right can once again field some more "normal" candidates.

You've officially lost it.

Automatic 3 day psychological hold!

Which part did I lose - Telling it like it is, or hopeful for a "normal" candidate?

Yeah, fine. Normal and Candidate should not be ever used in the same sentence.

Just saying that asking for one ...at least consistently from both is going to be a shitshow for awhile as the GOP crumbles under its own leadership, or lack there of.

You "know" all this, do you? If you're so smart, tell us whose going to win.

Sounds like a bunch of biased opinion to me.

Tune in Tuesday per Rich.

Please feel free to replace “burn sh!t down” with “mostly peaceful protests” if that’s how your biased opinion rolls

You know it really is a sad deal. I hate seeing any lethal force used by officers. It’s too bad there’s not a better way.

Keith

I not so secretly hope that trumps decides to try to stay in the White after he loses....you know, just to see what happens next. After the Tejas incident it will also be interesting to see how long the law and order trump train stays on the rails, stupid and armed and irritated and motivated and beaten and stupid sounds like a dangerous cocktail.

Let the election of denial begin.

I don't really hope that happens, but yes, it's interesting to ponder American democracy going off the rails like that, where a marginally elected prez the first time around refuses to yield to an election outcome. Does America have the nads to protect and enforce its own democracy?

Electoral College Results, Part II

Does Biden win Nevada and get exactly 270?

Nevada and Pennsylvania, and get 290?

Add in Georgia and make it 306?

Right now 306 is looking most likely, with all the votes from Pittsburgh, Philly, and Atlanta piling in for Biden.

Fish on...

Todd

It's interesting that Fox News is the leader in calling states for Biden, and taking some heat for it.

CNN has held back and been more conservative (pun intended).

With over 300,000 votes left to count in Georgia, Trump's lead has been cut in half in the last hour and is now only about 57,000.

Biden will probably clinch Georgia as the state that puts him over the magic number of 270, if Georgia finishes counting tonight.

Fish on...

Todd

Fox is typically less cautious about calling states, in both directions...they were first to call Arizona for Biden, too, and first to call Florida for Trump.

Fish on...

Todd

Winner!

Fish on...

Todd

Maybe throw in a couple dozen executive orders while he's at it... Not that they'd last long! I'm just glad the repubs look to be holding the senate. As soon as either party has both chambers and the white house most of us are screwed!

Trump's lead in Georgia is down to 9000 votes...next update and Biden will have Georgia and be at 280 EC votes, according to the AP, Fox, and CNN, but will only be at 269 according to MSNBC, since they haven't awarded Arizona to anyone yet.

Biden will take Nevada's six votes when they finish up there, and Pennsylvania's 20, probably by the end of the day tomorrow, so it won't matter too much...just whether it's Biden's victory today, or tomorrow.

Fish on...

Todd

Fat Nixon's lead in Georgia is 3600 votes now, and still counting...his fat orange goose is almost cooked.

Fish on...

Todd

He's claiming the mean old radical left is stealing the election.
Everyone knows you stop counting ballots when Trump's ahead.
These radicals are counting every ballot, so unfair.
He's being treated more unfairly than any President in the history of America.

Donald Trump is the Atlanta Falcons.

"Why do we have to play the 4th quarter?!?"

lol

Orange Man ain't leavin' the White House.
No matter what the election results are.
Prez for Life !

Good comparison. Lol

Looks like 306 for Biden is going to be the lucky number after he took the lead in PA and GA last night.

Fish on...

Todd

Impressive overall performance by the Biden team! Four more years and hopefully we see Jim Jordan make a run at the WH...

Keith

I heard Trump and or Trump Jr. as a third party in 2024. After Repooplicans say they don’t want to run him again, he sinks their ship.

People say Trump “is” the Repooplican party.....Rut roh....

Oh C'mon... That's not even a realistic comparison, AOC is off her rocker.

Keith

+1

The "fukk your feelings!" crowd is sure having a lot of feelings today...just wait until all the mournful wails for "fairness" and "equity" start pouring out, though they've offered zero of any of that over the last four years.

The Democratic Party needs to stand their ground this time, and play the same hardball as the Republicans have played.

Fish on...

Todd

Yup, and keep the division in America alive...

Keith

Sadly this only proves beyond a shadow of doubt that with you, all roads lead back to Fox and Friends.

Yep. [Bleeeeep!]'em. They never...never...give the same consideration back, and it's a net loss every time...Republicans always think they deserve it, and never think to give it.

"Fuckk their feelings"

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Todd

whats gonna be fun, is the republicans watched just how the impeachment process can so easily take place, even with made up lies...

tic tock...

i also wouldnt call this race over... if you think the governemnt aka Trump and Barr didnt have some plan in place to sniff out the corruption in this election, you are full of sh!t...

hell even Nadler has said in the past that mail in ballots are extremely succeptable to fraud...

wonder what changed...

for 4 years demoncrat lunatics and their media propogandists slammed down our throats that our election process was faulty, and fragile, and that Russia influenced the election...

now those same people are saying our election process is bulletproof, and there can be no outside interferance at all...

that sounds like straight up psychosis to me...

You are a fuckin moron.

Speaking of morons...Lindsay Graham has just said he will give Trump $500K for his legal defense fund.

I guess Trump's extortion of Graham is going to continue right past the election.

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Todd

Establishment candidates from either side suck.

If you don’t think there is such thing as establishment candidates you are a phuckin moron to the biggest degree possible.

AOC (to a lesser degree but she is becoming one) Jim Jordan and especially Biden fall into this category. Trump is at least not an establishment candidate. He still sucks just not for that reason.

Nope, just a personal opinion. You can hate the suggestion and it's just a suggestion at that. For the 100th time, I'm not a Fox and Friends fanatic TV watcher, I watch just as much CNN as I do others.. I'm not shallow minded, willing to listen and don't take every [Bleeeeep!] thing I hear or read as fact.

It's entertaining to see so many regurgitate others garbage as the truth, because they read it or heard it elsewhere then it has to be fact. Were you there? Did it happen as described? Who's telling the truth.... That's the real question.

Keith

It’s because Ill-she is a deranged pathetic hack who cannot think objectively. Blindly follows with no degree of objectivity and unable to discuss anything with substance.

no you are the fvcking moron Todd...

you thin Biden will be the president?

if by somehow he wins, dont forget what Pelosi did with that bill she passed, trying to use COVID as a thing to remove Trump...

it was never about Trump...

it was about removing BIDEN...

then Harris will become president, and she can nominate who as her VP?

BIden will be in office for a week before hes removed, or resigns..

if it even makes it that far...

then, you will see what a stupid mistake you have made, by voting for personality vs policy, and you will have fvcked everyone in the country because of that mindset...

i truly hope you, and your corporate elites that you work for, and all the other ones, get hammered the worst... maybe lose some houses, maybe have to buy cars that arent brand new anymore...

hell, alot of them are likely to commit suicide when their money dries up, wouldnt be the first time sh!t like that happened...

so buckle up, its gonna be a fun ride to watch either way....

you gonna go to any fagtests this weekend? run around with a dildo on your head and a broomstick up your ass?

Fixed that for ya..

Keith

As long as our existing and deeply embedded "us vs them" mantra in the US exists, America will always be deeply divided.

Rich vs Poor
North vs South
Whites vs Blacks
Republitards vs Demotards
Conservatives vs Liberals
Bait Thugs vs Fly Homos
206ers vs 360'ers
Californians vs Oh wait, everyone hates a Californian.

and so on and so on.

We are a very deeply divided country and always will be. About the only time we are *briefly* united is when something extremely horrific happens to us, albeit terrorism, natural disasters, asteroids, and zombies.

Some leaders just elect to fan those division flames a bit harder than others.

Tuesday.....right?

...see what I did there?

And I was trying to be a nice guy and not remind everyone that evo is the stupidest shitforbrains alive. But then evo goes and reminds everyone himself.

Nice going, stupid. Where do you get this " BIden will be in office for a week before hes removed, or resigns" crap? Are you a qanon cocksucker too?

And finally,what is it with your gay obsession with faggy shitt like " fagtests this weekend? run around with a dildo on your head and a broomstick up your ass?"

You sound like a closet case....and really stupid.

our election process would be fine, with voter ID and in person electronic voting...

but then the democrats would never win, so i can see why you wouldnt want that...

you are the one thats been talking about Trumps dick for the last 4 years...

fag...

lol.

Just stop guzzling it and no one would notice you're guzzling it, stupid.

Getting into 3 star territory

see...

fag..

nah, i dont like dudes, or dicks, unlike you..

fag..

Only a small typo you missed. You are the one who keeps bringing it up.

Interesting how fascinated most of the board members are here with hyper sexualualized homosexuality talk. Probably a few closet dwellers here, but that’s okay!

with the exception of a year, and probably 40 women during that 1 year, since i was able to fvck, i have had a girlfriend every year of my life...

most here cant say that...

hell most havent even hit puberty yet...

Dude...

I be they were all super model, smoking-hot hotties, too!

typical women, we had a bunch of parties at my buddies house, new one every night...

was beating the brakes off a 40 year old when i was 18, that sure was fun.. 5' 1" little spunk ball....

Hey, you should be happily surprised that trump pulled as many votes as he did, most reasonable Americans figured for a statement style landslide.
Since you are so fond of conspiracies...It may very be that trump is the one that cheated to get as far as he did. Maybe put something in your Big Mac and fries or Mt Dew enabling some kind of hypnotic mind control...

Says the guy who admits to dreaming about Dan while in the shower.

You're gonna need a bigger/sharper hatchet for that Possum Mamma!



For 40 women, you'd better add in the 5-gallon bucket of Anal Lube.

3.1 stars.

Fish on...

Todd

40 women.....

That's almost up there with NickD kinda numbers!

The JackHammer is still not impressed, though.

"Skeezers."

I have no idea what that is...but I'm just at the thought of what that could be. I'd look it up in UrbanDictionary, but there's no fun in that!

no, its that the average every day Democrat is a brainwashed sheep that refuses to open their eyes...

my mom voted democrat her whole life, including for Obama... we got into HEATED arguements about him, and i would say, that the only reason her, and most people voted for him, was because he was black, and they wanted the whole "first black president" thing to make them or us as a country sound unique and progressive...

Obama was a sh!t senator, and a sh!t president, and the only reason people voted for him was because he was black... Biden is also a piece of sh!t that has been fvcking up black communities for 4 decades, theres proof of that, yet no one will accept it... i mean theres literal proof..

anyways, my mom has also not cared for Trump for my entire life...

guess what tho?

after about 1 year of his presidency, she saw what was going on, and has appoligized to me multiple times, and said i was right...

she voted for Trump this time, because unlike the democrats that have been in office since Jesus died, Trump actually cares about America and its citizens...

you will see that when the taxes increase, gas goes up, stock market tanks, and everyone is left to fend for themselves...

i know ill be alright tho...

ive used like 6 of those fvckin things...

skeet on the cheeks is my game...

Uh oh. Evotard is going full racist again.

yeah, because im speaking truth is being racist...

the truth hurts, i know...

Quick question:

Trump is obviously a fuckin loser.

If he asks for all the recounts that he is entitled to, gets them, and it doesn't change the result...

Does he get to be a loser again? Or is he still the same loser he was the first time around?

Either one is fine, I guess, but something tells me that him being a loser twice over would make him that much more of a whiny [Bleeeeep!] than being just one loser.

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Todd

yeah, cuz i didnt see her do her ballot...

you should stop smoking your brain cells...

Easy there, RichG Jr.



You ever thought about getting paid to be a professional IntarWebz troller? I'm sure the Russians are hiring.

Oh wait, that's a job.

Never mind. My bad.

But, it would explain how you always have money.

It's either that, or meth.

uh huh...

you are probably 1 roach and a half a White Claw away from a DUI and a Domestic Violence charge...

4.4 stars...

We are definitely getting somewhere with this one...

Keith

40 ‘women’ in a year? Did you get a gate key to your uncle KK’s farm?

omg

you wouldnt catch me dead with a White Claw, and fvck a roach...

better read up on Disparity of Force laws tough guy...

disabled?

uh huh..

able? very...

stupid people on the internet...

It’s the difference between losing with dignity vs just being a loser.

oh yeah, 5 stars!

next stop....shooting stars!

Lol. REEEEEEEEEEVo thinks a female goat is a woman. That’s just poor education.

"Trump" and "Dignity" sure aren't two words you see in the same sentence together...not unless there's a "has no fuckin" in between them

By that standard I guess "just being a loser" is what he's aiming at.

I'll allow it.

Sure we can't go with "just being a loser" now, a then "just being a loser, again" in a couple of months? I guess that does imply that there was a period between when he wasn't a loser, and that's clearly inapplicable.

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Todd

bruh you fvcked your sister and 3 cousins..

who the fvck are you talking sh!t about?

go clean out your WAP...

Why don’t you just fight him?

uh, i dont know...

isnt this what you are supposed to do here?

hurl names and insults and threats and all kinds of sh!t?

Can you give us another update on your “assets”? It’s been 48 hours...

wanna see some Mantle cards?

As is Mickey?

Keith

Show the cards with your new shotgun and I will believe you, but still not care.

Scared.

He'll offer to fight me at the drop of a hat, though.

Backsliding.

1.9 stars.

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Todd

"Backsliding"


Sounds like there was a ton of that going on back in the day.
Carpet burns and all.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-no-concession

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Todd