I think they are both acting more like adults. Thank god for no flies.

It's nice to see a more civil debate. Looks like a draw to me.

Unless your one of those 545 kids that were taken and now Trump can't find their parents because he departed them and didn't do the paper work.

No ability to be objective... only deranged.

No ability to be objective... only deranged.

You really are that fvckin stupid. As a matter of fact, you are the most pathetic person here aside from Richie G. This happened while Barrack Obama was in office and not a fvckin peep about it until it’s on Trumps time. You are such a fvckin party hack. Wipe your chin Biden Blower.

That's exactly what that liar Trump said, see that's what happens when you listen to entertainment news.

See this is your problem. You are so deranged you can’t even see that maybe Trump is actually right about something. No objectivity, again.

Trump didn’t create this... it was passed on. You are also not acknowledging the point that Obama was doing this. You’re a fvckin hypocrite and party hack.

This has been fact checked several times.

The infamous pic is from the Obama era, but it was deceptive because although they were in the "cage" it was a temporary holding area while you were being processed that day. Everyone was kept together as a family if that's how they came into the country.

The Trump administration used the separation tactic as a way to discourage people from crossing the border. It was a "You come here and we'll take your kids away" threat.

Trumpanzees can't remember sh1t, they also have no knowledge of video/audio technology.
Here's a little help.

https://time.com/5314681/republicans-criticized-trump-family-separation-border/

They got deported to who know where without their kids.
Have you ever lived in a third world country?
So who do they throw a ruckus to?
Maybe the Ministry of Go Fvck Yourself?
Or Dept. of Who Gives a Sh1t?

From what I have read, the separation policy was a direct result of a judicial ruling that basically said you had to release minors immediately. The parent would bring their children (or perhaps other minors claiming they were their children) and then would claim asylum. To keep the families to together, the accompanying parent would be released to stop the separation from their children. They would be assigned a case number and asked to stay in contact and asked to come back later for a hearing. This is what Trump meant by catch and release. The number of people coming in and taking advantage of this started to soar in 2018. To try to combat this, the Trump administration started to separate the children from their parents. This was an attempt to stop the migrants from using the loop hole to get into the US. I am not sure of the best approach, as both letting them go and separating families are bad policies.
But, one must remember, at any time I believe the parents could agree to be deported and leave with their family. I guess the belief is that if you are looking at death or severe persecution, the separation is worth it. If you are doing this for other reasons, it might discourage you.
Lot of issues here.

Biden.......Proudly caging Mexicans for years.

Biden and Trump.......Proudly caging Mexicans for years.

Biden.......Proudly reducing US oil imports and pollution for years.

+ 1,000,000

And the false equivalence gang bang continues.

I’m a Russian bot

So Keith why do you think there's protests in the streets all over America?

It's a hard question to answer because there's many many reasons for the protesting.. Honestly, I have no issues with the protests it's the looting and destruction of property that's saddening.

There will be more protests when Trump wins again, I'd take a bet on that one...

Keith

So you yourself admit,it's Trump

So you have no fvcking idea?
This is deja vu all over again for me.
I lived through Vietnam and there was a number of Americans who only saw the antiwar demonstrators and the havoc and disruption they created.
I see the very same thing happening again.
Here's the irony, it was by and large the Republicans who failed to recognize the real message of the demonstrators.
Back then there wasn't a Fox and Friends to help people think, so it was just stupidity, but today it's just plain old brainwashing.

Things can only go so far. Both the right and left are complicit in deficit spending. But the left wants to blame the right, and the right wants to blame the left. Both are culprits. Disagreeing only makes you a party hack... which makes up the majority of this board.

“Trump guzzler” “Village idiot” “Evo-level tardness”... here it comes... the language of denial.

No BS Bill Clinton had a balanced budget. Trump spends like a drunken sailor.

Steamer always has a problem with facts that don't fit into his narrative.

He ignores them, and expects others to do the same while they stand in awe of his ability to rise above the fray and remain independent and free.

lol

I have little interest in sports, I don't watch or follow any college or professional sports.

Decades ago when watching sports was just what you did, no questions asked, it was part of the culture, I'd stay home and watch.

What I noticed was that I never regretted missing a game and actually doing something myself. But frequently I regretted wasting an afternoon, or even a full day sitting in front of a TV watching millionaires play a game that had absolutely zero effect on my life.

Win or lose my life went on the same, only I now had one fewer day(s) to do something that actually benefited me.

Mowing the lawn was more productive and satisfying than watching sports.

I'd take my kids and we'd do something together in the great outdoors, like digging snow caves and camping in them on Mt Rainier.
Or week long river floats on new rivers. Tracking animals in the snow was great, then showing them how the large predators tracked us.

I had friends whose moods would be set for the week by how their favorite teams did. Why depend on other people that don't even a have clue you exist to provide enjoyment and value to your life.

Politics can directly affect just about every aspect of my daily life, for better or worse, so yes I'm going to pay attention.

To each their own regarding sports.

Let me rephrase, there is a lot of cool [Bleeeeep!], fishing, arts, movies, plays, books, that are waiting to be consumed and enjoyed. Meanwhile people are arguing about a presidential race where every single person have already made up their mind.

If Trump was leading the polls you would be all over politics D Wat! I haven't even watched the World Series. Mariners have never been there. Same with the NBA finals since the Sonics left town.

Politics can directly affect just about every aspect of my daily life, for better or worse, so yes I'm going to pay attention.

Check which forum you're posting in, you may see this isn't the fishing or hunting section.

I'm also noticing you posted in a thread about a political debate, nothing to do with fishing or sports.

I only gave my views on my interest in sports, I mentioned no one else or Indicated my opinion was the only correct one.

If you like watching sports, go for it.

I sense an unjustified hostility in your response.

I don't read or comment in sports threads because I have no interest in the discussion.

Maybe I should click on one and complain that they're discussing sports.

Stam really triggers Twatkins.