To the earlier question of why people vote for Trump there are many varied reasons and you can't paint the Trump voter with broad brushes. Abortion, personal freedom, economy, shake up the political status quo, conservative values, reigning in government overreach, etc. etc. Trump serves a political/policy purpose for many who cannot stand his character. The evangelical/conservative component of his base are very much at odds with trumps character but voted not FOR Trump but THROUGH him FOR Gorsuch, Barrett, and the nearly 300 other judges he's put on the bench. Then there's the wackos who love him for his FU, burn it all down attitude and see that as validation for their own wacked out sh|t. Two very different kind of people. He's either a brilliant strategist in his quest for power or just dumb-lucked into enough disparate segments to put together enough of a "base" to win or be competitive for the presidency. Mis-labeling or trying to ascribe false motivations to Trump voters isn't a smart political move as Hillary found out with her basket of deplorables.

This all boils down to what side your own.
One side is pro democracy majority rules and the other is the tail wags the dog alt reality crooks rule party.

There's a whole lot of people on both sides of the political spectrum with confirmation bias and the almighty dollar keeps driving the both sides further apart and into their respective echo chambers.

Salmo was right about why Fox News is the leader in cable news. Among the major players there's one of them and several of the "other guys" to spread out the viewership.

Reefer - you're wrong with your summation of Fox News viewership just as much as people who say MSNBC watchers are triggered snowflakes with TDS. But then you knew that... Wacko's gonna be wacko's no matter their political leanings and there's plenty on each side.

To the earlier question of why people vote for Trump there are many varied reasons and you can't paint the Trump voter with broad brushes. Abortion, personal freedom, economy, shake up the political status quo, conservative values, reigning in government overreach, etc. etc. Trump serves a political/policy purpose for many who cannot stand his character. The evangelical/conservative component of his base are very much at odds with trumps character but voted not FOR Trump but THROUGH him FOR Gorsuch, Barrett, and the nearly 300 other judges he's put on the bench. Then there's the wackos who love him for his FU, burn it all down attitude and see that as validation for their own wacked out sh|t. Two very different kind of people. He's either a brilliant strategist in his quest for power or just dumb-lucked into enough disparate segments to put together enough of a "base" to win or be competitive for the presidency. Mis-labeling or trying to ascribe false motivations to Trump voters isn't a smart political move as Hillary found out with her basket of deplorables.

I vote "dumb-lucked" as I'm no genius, but I've flushed smarter than him.

Thank you for taking the time to lay that out, I suspect that I suspected all of that and even may have a bit of understanding for it..... I just don't see him as believing in any of that, I see him as a you can fool some of the people all of the time kind of guy, yet I still get stuck trying to figure out how anyone can't see it, or worse, would be that willing to cut off their own nose to spite their face...
Oh well, just a couple few more days somebody gets to drift fish a imperfect run on the river of tears.

I voted

So if a person is incredibly bad, but does something that benefits you, you'll support them?

There is some history you should review.

So if a person is incredibly bad, but does something that benefits you, you'll support them?

There's a whole lot of people on both sides of the political spectrum with confirmation bias and the almighty dollar keeps driving the both sides further apart and into their respective echo chambers.

Salmo was right about why Fox News is the leader in cable news. Among the major players there's one of them and several of the "other guys" to spread out the viewership.

Reefer - you're wrong with your summation of Fox News viewership just as much as people who say MSNBC watchers are triggered snowflakes with TDS. But then you knew that... Wacko's gonna be wacko's no matter their political leanings and there's plenty on each side.

To the earlier question of why people vote for Trump there are many varied reasons and you can't paint the Trump voter with broad brushes. Abortion, personal freedom, economy, shake up the political status quo, conservative values, reigning in government overreach, etc. etc. Trump serves a political/policy purpose for many who cannot stand his character. The evangelical/conservative component of his base are very much at odds with trumps character but voted not FOR Trump but THROUGH him FOR Gorsuch, Barrett, and the nearly 300 other judges he's put on the bench. Then there's the wackos who love him for his FU, burn it all down attitude and see that as validation for their own wacked out sh|t. Two very different kind of people. He's either a brilliant strategist in his quest for power or just dumb-lucked into enough disparate segments to put together enough of a "base" to win or be competitive for the presidency. Mis-labeling or trying to ascribe false motivations to Trump voters isn't a smart political move as Hillary found out with her basket of deplorables.

Should it really matter if Trump believes in what he has accomplished.

It seems to me that if a person were to appreciate what he has accomplished yet would vote against him because he is a jerk then that person would be biting his nose to spite his face. But then,this is not where to come in the search of knowledge.

I would say Joe and Kamala are just as bad. Joe has an extensive history of allegations made by women, similar to Trump. Joe has been observed being just as demeaning and insensitive to people, similar to Trump.

I would say Joe and Kamala are just as bad. Joe has an extensive history of allegations made by women, similar to Trump. Joe has been observed being just as demeaning and insensitive to people, similar to Trump.