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#1040975 - 11/01/20 01:59 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes *** [Re: stlhdr1]
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305 - 233 Biden. As the bonus answer, Biden wins the popular vote by 5 to 7 million votes and the Senate flips Democratic with either a 1 vote majority or by having Kamala Harris as the tiebreaker. House stays Dem with maybe a few extra seats.
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#1040976 - 11/01/20 02:53 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Illahee
So Keith please clear something up for me, as a political science student it's always puzzled me why middle to lower middle class people vote Republican.
Voting against one's own economic best interests has baffled me, so Keith can you please elaborate?


Taxes aren’t the number one reason people vote to the right. Imho the largest portion are those that want less government.

Just my .02

Keith


Cutting taxes drives up the deficit, Republicans are only fiscally conservative when their not in power.
Same goes for smaller government, they talk a good story when they don't have power, but when elected they spend and grow the government by leaps and bounds.
Maybe you have to go to college to see that, but it's true, Republican Presidents fvck the deficit every time.

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#1040978 - 11/01/20 04:03 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Cutting taxes only works if you ALSO cut spending. Both parties love spending. One party loves raising taxes and spending. One party loves cutting taxes but doesn’t follow through on cutting spending. The deficit will grow no matter who is in power.


Edited by Streamer (11/01/20 04:04 PM)
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#1040980 - 11/01/20 04:24 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: Streamer]
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Only one way drives up the deficit way more than the other.
Which one do you think that is short timer?

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#1040988 - 11/01/20 07:09 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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The Biden ship is sinking.

Can't wait to hear you liberals here crying and moaning.

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#1040989 - 11/01/20 07:20 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0
The Biden ship is sinking.

Can't wait to hear you liberals here crying and moaning.


Glad someone said it

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#1040990 - 11/01/20 07:38 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Lower the life boats.

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#1040991 - 11/01/20 07:59 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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I wouldn't underestimate the power of a lot of really pissed off Americans.

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#1040992 - 11/01/20 08:08 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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I don't.
I give them 100% of the credit for being idiots that need to visit an anger management counselor.

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#1040996 - 11/01/20 10:12 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Illahee
So Keith please clear something up for me, as a political science student it's always puzzled me why middle to lower middle class people vote Republican.
Voting against one's own economic best interests has baffled me, so Keith can you please elaborate?


Taxes aren’t the number one reason people vote to the right. Imho the largest portion are those that want less government.

Just my .02

Keith


That's not the only thing going down in SW Washington. Tension rising in Clark County.
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#1040999 - 11/02/20 08:55 AM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
That's not the only thing going down in SW Washington. Tension rising in Clark County.


Maybe I'm just not "woke" enough, but examples like this are where the Black Lives Matter movement undermines itself. When an unarmed black who cannot attack police, yet is shot and killed by police, that is truly a travesty of justice and should be protested and more. However, many of the blacks who are shot by police are armed and threatening or even shooting at police. They might as well pin a target on themselves; that's just asking to be shot. It ain't rocket science to know that if you assault or attempt to assault an armed citizen or police officer, you're going to get your azz shot.

It's too bad that the black man near Vancouver was shot and killed, but he was armed and running from police and is reported to have shot at police. The end of that story writes itself; of course he was going to be shot. You don't even have to be black for that ending to happen.

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#1041001 - 11/02/20 09:26 AM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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My anecdotal observations lead me to think Trump will eek out another four years.

My mother, a lifelong Democrat after four years of living on dt Seattle voted straight republican. I asked what the final straw was and it was CHOP, specifically when they attacked and had to close the soup kitchen she volunteered at three days a week.

My cousin, a lifelong Democrat and public school teacher in Portland voted straight republican. I asked her what the final straw was and it was antifa twice invading her neighborhood the second time setting fires during the big fire storm resulting in warning evacuation orders. Fortunately none of those fires took off.

I walk my neighborhood daily. What used to be 100’s of Obama yard signs, a dozen Clinton signs is now two, yes two, Biden signs. There’s more Culp signs than Biden signs. I’ve yet to see an Inslee yard sign.

Yesterday in Lynnwood at what’s locally called “freedom corner” there where about 50 or so Trump supporters. Now this is where the anti war crowd spent their weekends during the Bush/Obama years but for some reason no longer exist?? Anyway there was one Biden supporter, a white lady, screaming “racist scum” and “hail Trump” at a white family. Across the street where two black families waving their Trump and American flags. While sitting at the red light dozens of cars drove thru honking and waving their support.

I thought Clinton would win four years ago because I believed the polls and not my eyeballs but this time I figure Trumps got it. But I did see a Biden sign in Brewster so I might not be reading the tea leaves correctly.

I do know that if Trump wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know that if Biden wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know if it’s close and contested the far left will burn [Bleeeeep!] down.

And finally I know that federal gun background checks will continue in that 3 million a month range. We are all Americans after all smile. Now if only the ammo manufactures can get their supply chain fixed!
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#1041002 - 11/02/20 09:32 AM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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p.s. I’m seriously thinking of spending Tue and Wed night in the mountains so I miss the whole mess.
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#1041007 - 11/02/20 11:58 AM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
I do know that if Trump wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know that if Biden wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know if it’s close and contested the far left AND rightwill burn [Bleeeeep!] down.


This, with the minor edit.

No one side will take the loss well and will throw a major temper tantrum.

Pains me to say it, but I'm still predicting that Trump will get re-elected. Only because the numb-nuts who voted for him in the first place are still that. Numb nuts. They will vote for him again.

I'm already looking forward to the 2024 election where I am hopeful that after 4 more years of our country going to crap and being the laughing stock of the world, both the left and the right can once again field some more "normal" candidates.
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#1041011 - 11/02/20 12:12 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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I am hopeful that after 4 more years of our country going to crap and being the laughing stock of the world, both the left and the right can once again field some more "normal" candidates.


You've officially lost it.

Automatic 3 day psychological hold!
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#1041012 - 11/02/20 12:14 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Which part did I lose - Telling it like it is, or hopeful for a "normal" candidate?

Yeah, fine. Normal and Candidate should not be ever used in the same sentence.
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#1041014 - 11/02/20 12:18 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Just saying that asking for one ...at least consistently from both is going to be a shitshow for awhile as the GOP crumbles under its own leadership, or lack there of.
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#1041016 - 11/02/20 12:27 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster

I do know that if Trump wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know that if Biden wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know if it’s close and contested the far left will burn [Bleeeeep!] down.


You "know" all this, do you? If you're so smart, tell us whose going to win.

Sounds like a bunch of biased opinion to me.

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#1041020 - 11/02/20 01:01 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: stlhdr1]
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Tune in Tuesday per Rich.

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#1041030 - 11/02/20 02:16 PM Re: 2020 ELECTION RESULTS - Electoral Votes [Re: DBS]
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Originally Posted By: DBS
Originally Posted By: BroodBuster

I do know that if Trump wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know that if Biden wins the far left will burn sh!t down.

I also know if it’s close and contested the far left will burn [Bleeeeep!] down.


You "know" all this, do you? If you're so smart, tell us whose going to win.

Sounds like a bunch of biased opinion to me.


Please feel free to replace “burn sh!t down” with “mostly peaceful protests” if that’s how your biased opinion rolls smile
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