I sat in for the whole meeting. I know when it comes to Salmon the Quilayutes have made adjustments in days, net size etc over the years. I'm curious what concessions the Quinaults are doing with regards to the Queets. The Queets has missed Escapement Goals for both Coho & Steelhead for a lot of years over the last 20 (I can't remember the exact #). And the Queets does not have to deal with habitat destruction etc.
The one Wild Card out there is the National Park. What are they going to do? They do not have to follow what WDFW does.

Bye bye steelhead.

According to them they follow state rules.

bobrr: The Park does not always follow WDFW. They went to "Release All Wild Fish" a few years back. That's different then the sate. Take the Hoh. You can't keep Wild Salmon in the park but can once outside the Park.

In Grays Harbor County, there are rivers where it is legal to fish SALMON until 12/31/2020...... In the 20+ years that I've been a "spoon fisherman on the hook", I've never caught a steelhead using the salmon type spoons many fishermen use.

Supporting this is supporting more broken policies that have been proven not to work. We need to use the Tillamook county example and run with it, or the salmon river. Broodstocking works. There aren’t any non biased studies that can dispute it. None.

Why is the Skookumchuck even involved in this wild steelhead debate. That dam killed all the real “wild” fish decades ago.

You can’t even kill hatchery steelhead on that river...that’s all that’s there.

Our state is useless at fisheries management.

(r state is useless at fisheries management.)


u got that right

I wonder how many guides are planning on moving their operations to one of these supposedly "healthy" rivers that Sthdr1 has mentioned? Even better, you know they will post great wide-angle panning shots of these majestic fish all of BookFace and InstaTard. Social mediaites will eat this crap up.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which river that is

It actually takes *less* time to drive to these rivers from Seattle than taking a ferry and getting out to the OP.

Can't wait to guide fish from a boat on these rivers! Can't wait to fill your wonderful social media sites with grip-n-grins. Maybe toss up a few movies on YouTube to make it so obvious where the good fishing is!

Oh well. Probably won't take long until these Columbia River basin rivers are taking the brunt of the boating guide services and won't be healthy for long. But who cares, right? As long as *I* get to fish them and fish them the way I like, fvck everyone and everything else.

Once again, will someone please remind me why we are allowed to hammer on runs of wild steelhead in rivers that are not making escapement goals?

If a river is projected *not* to make it's escapement goal this year, it should be CLOSED to all fishing.

Will someone please remind me again why this new rule of not being able to fish from a boat isn't state wide? If we're gonna get bent over and fvcked by the WDFW, shouldn't we all be bending over equally?



Don't worry WDFW. Looks like a lot of sportsmen are jumping on the "I don't give a fvck how the state fvcks me or the wild fish in the ass as long as I get to fish for wild steelhead regardless of the costs now or in the future." bandwagon.

Again.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat

Stop making sense paker

what do you mean you cant kill hatchery steelhead on the Skookumchuck?

This is spot on.

“Release ALL rainbow trout”. That’s steelhead.

All you old farts complaining about Instagram and YouTube must have never had subscriptions to STS or other magazines that blew up rivers. 99% of the people who are successful at Instagram or YouTube don’t say where they are fishing.

Whah whah whah. The state is the problem, some of these “glory shot guys” are doing more positive things for steelhead and salmon than most of the people complaining about them.

Omg are you dumb enough to think that means no adult steelhead retention??

I'm 41.. Not a old fart..

You can kill hatchery fish on the Skook...

Fish it once before talking about legal limitations..

I'm sure he's a regular there, just to dumb to realize that rule is for trout and not steelhead, which is anything over 21"

20”....but who’s counting anyway.
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While most of this talk has been about the boating restrictions, I am a bit more concerned with the Selective rules. While it may make sense in some basins to promote this later on, there is no need for it in December in most rivers. Last week I was stopped for a a couple of hours on one of the effected rivers. I was joined by two other guys as I walked in. We all stopped at a well known hole and spread out a little bit, trading places as we through jigs, spinners and the floated some bait. After an hour they moved on and I switched up to some eggs behind a spin n- glow. On the third cast a mint bright hatchery coho came flying up and slammed the rig as I as pulling it in. We had worked it over hard and had seen nothing. The other two guys walked down and I helped one of them pull another out hatchery fish in a few minutes later on the same eggs drifted bare. In the between a jack came flying up chasing the eggs but bit short. I am almost positive nothing else would have worked other than the eggs, which produced fairly quick. In an extreme case, I have a friend who was working a hatchery hole a few years back. There were 10 or so guys hitting it hard and no one had a fish all day. About an hour before dark he remembered he had some prawns in his bag. The next hour he hooked a fish almost every cast, while no one else had a hit. They were debating whether it really was the prawns so he tossed one over to the guy next to him. First cast and it was fish on.
I hate that they are taking away options before they need to.

Well I'll agree with you on that, while I agree with most of it, the start date is 4-6 weeks too early in my opinion. Would be nice to mop up the brats before going no-bait and no-boat.
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Shut your fkn mouth flatbiller when adults are talking .

It's bullchit.