#1043673 - 12/13/20 10:03 PM
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River Nutrients
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In order to get that large they need a food base in the lake. Zooplankton. Then, fit stocking levels to food supply.
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#1043675 - 12/13/20 10:11 PM
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Returning Adult
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I’m fine with it. Plant more fish dang it. Hatchery Wild Coexist. Stop worrying about that mythical Unicorn absolutely pure native wild Steelhead. Are they ? We’re they ever ? Do Salmon & Steelhead stray and spawn in other streams than the stream they came out of ? They got to other rivers some how. Maybe it was close encounters.
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#1043693 - 12/14/20 09:41 AM
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Were they ever?
Were they ever what exactly? Let's see how goof troop this can get.
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#1043877 - 12/14/20 09:48 PM
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
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The hot hens had sex with many males before leaving the salt. Often they were pregnant long before they randomly chose a stream to swim up.
Only The state of Washington could screw it up.
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#1043969 - 12/16/20 01:07 PM
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River Nutrients
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12/16/2020
Well, here we are, mid December and boat launches on the Satsop, the Chehalis, and the Wynoochee, when I check, are almost empty.
Tuesday drive around, showed 1 jet boat rig at Fuller, no rigs at Satsop launches, highway or West Fork, and 1 drift boat waiting to take out on the Wynoochee at Black Ck.
WDFW goal to protect wild steelhead is having an affect on these rivers, "even though historically wild fish enter these river much later in the fishing season".
What most of the "still wet behind the years" WDFW personnel don't know is that the Wynoochee and the Satsop were late returning native steelhead. I moved to Grays Harbor in 1968, the steelhead season was until 4/30.....spring vacation time I could fish anywhere on these 2 rivers and catch/release many chrome bright steelhead over 20 pounds.....probably hooked and broke off fish, many pounds larger. The more amazing thing, many times not see another fisherman.
In the 60's, 70's, and even the 80's there were NO NETS in the Chehalis river after the hatchery run salmon season was done, not that the QIN couldn't net, they just didn't.
Edited by DrifterWA (12/16/20 01:11 PM)
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#1043974 - 12/16/20 02:19 PM
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Three Time Spawner
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and now the Hump hasn't meet escapement goals on wild coho in 20+ years but yet the nets are in sunday noon till friday noon,, november through december !!!
Wonder what happen to the wild coho?
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#1043987 - 12/16/20 08:46 PM
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
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The educated and elected ones failed many many years.
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#1044016 - 12/17/20 12:08 PM
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River Nutrients
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Loc: Olalla, WA
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It's the Habitat
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#1044018 - 12/17/20 01:16 PM
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Yup.
The habitat in the big concrete building.
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#1044093 - 12/17/20 10:28 PM
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Shooting Instructor for hire
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Loc: Snohomish, WA
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It's money. Follow the money. Until we end market fishing, hands will be in the cookie jar fighting over the last Unicorn steak.
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#1044134 - 12/18/20 10:58 AM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/03/06
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So often I think government is about the path of least resistance. Just get by with the least amount of conflict or work. Too many snaggers, shut down the river rather than enforce the law. Tribes threaten to sue, give them what they want. Someone threatens to sue, just give the person what they want. I first saw this with the parks department. People vandalize the bathrooms, lock them up or remove them. Never mind that only .1% of the population is the problem, it is just easier to shut something down than actually do something about a problem.
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#1044136 - 12/18/20 11:03 AM
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Dick Nipples
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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It's not just the path of least resistance, though I think it's connected to that...if there's no funding to actually fix the problem, then you just lock the problem up.
Fish on...
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#1044152 - 12/18/20 01:07 PM
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River Nutrients
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Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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I agree with Todd about the general lack of money. There are problems with how it is allocated but how long has it been since the access areas had working, stocked restrooms? Maintenance at hatcheries was/is regularly deferred, and so on.
Some of the priorities seem warped, to me. Way back when the state /tribal negotiations were among a relatively few people, not half the agency. It used to be, though, that folks were generalists. Now, we have specialists but very narrow specialties.
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#1044156 - 12/18/20 01:29 PM
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Shooting Instructor for hire
Registered: 10/26/10
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Loc: Snohomish, WA
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Not "save the fish and habitat" funding money. Front end market fishing money.
We ended market hunting and look at we are today. Correlation does not equal causation, but c'mon.
Edited by NickD90 (12/18/20 01:29 PM)
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