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#1044337 - 12/23/20 09:11 AM Pardons?
Todd Offline
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Usually the President at least pretends that pardons and commutations are for some travesty of justice, or someone who has "turned over a new leaf", or some such nonsense...Trump's not even pretending.

Christmas came early for four convicted war criminals, a handful of his Administration members who pled guilty to lying to the FBI to protect Trump, and corrupt GOP politicians who were removed from office and jailed for stealing campaign funds.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the four convicted war criminals worked for Blackwater, which is owned by Betsy DeVoss's brother.

I'm sure it's also a coincidence that the corrupt politicians were the first two to come out in favor of Trump's candidacy back in 2015.

Anyways...business as usual in the most corrupt Administration ever...even Nixon had enough shame to leave his Administration's criminals, Halderman and Liddy, in jail, and they begged for pardons.

Fish on...

Todd
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#1044343 - 12/23/20 10:48 AM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Pardon Big Stick
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#1044344 - 12/23/20 11:06 AM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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I read an interesting aspect of Pardons, especially pre-pardons like Nixon who was not actually convicted, that I was unaware of is that, for the pardoned ones, they lose Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination as they can't be convicted.

So, DT has to think hard about what some of his potential pardons might say under oath. That is, say about him.

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#1044346 - 12/23/20 11:13 AM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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That is true, CM, and could potentially be of concern to him, especially the ones that lied about their contacts with the Russians when they were shopping Hillary Clinton dirt.

Trump is already an unnamed co-conspirator in the case...but the answer to "did you conspire with Donald Trump?" can't be waived off by 5th Amendment concerns, since none exist if you've been pardoned for the crime already.

Fish on...

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#1044348 - 12/23/20 11:46 AM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Who else is there?

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#1044358 - 12/23/20 04:44 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Poor Jared Kushner. Trump can't afford to pardon him, considering the loss of %th A protection.

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#1044359 - 12/23/20 05:23 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Kushner's dad got his, along with Manafort, and The Penguin...three for real criminals, not pardonable in any world other than Trumpworld.

Fish on...

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#1044360 - 12/23/20 05:54 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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In light of Trump's pardons, Biden should pardon Cohen soon after taking office. The State of New York will need Cohen's testimony in cases against Trump and his corrupt cronies. Giving him a pardon would take away the defense's argument that Cohen is lying in hopes of getting a pardon. The big question is, how are you ever going to seat a jury without a Trump crazy holdout on it?

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#1044361 - 12/23/20 06:00 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Not that anyone who isn't a complete and utter idiot doesn't already know it...but what does it say about your Administration when you have to pardon half of it before Christmas?

It says you are a Criminal Syndicate, as we all either knew (those with brains) or should have know (fuckin idiots) all along.

Fish on...

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#1044363 - 12/23/20 06:33 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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So somebody could commit crimes against Trump, his family, or supporters and be pardoned by Biden?

I doubt he would do so but this pardon stuff seems so messed up.
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#1044365 - 12/23/20 07:40 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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I was just wondering, when a block or wheel of cheese gets it's picture taken, what does the cheese say?

I'm going to meditate on that for a bit.
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#1044379 - 12/24/20 12:15 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
I was just wondering, when a block or wheel of cheese gets it's picture taken, what does the cheese say?

I'm going to meditate on that for a bit.



Any luck?
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#1044385 - 12/24/20 07:30 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Any guesses on which PP dark side members will get a Trump pardon?
I’m thinking Rich will be first in line.
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#1044386 - 12/25/20 07:36 AM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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If loyalty counts, Rich is a shoe in. If stupid was a crime Rich is a career criminal and in spite of all of the evidence saying "don't do it," Rich has relentlessly followed the lead lemming, pardon or no pardon I can't see too many being disappointed when the whole pack of rats runs off the cliff.

Merry Christmas!

2020 hasn't been all bad....

....America voted trump out!
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#1044388 - 12/25/20 09:40 AM Re: Pardons? [Re: DCC]
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Merry Christmas . 2020 has sucked donkey balls.

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#1044392 - 12/25/20 04:59 PM Re: Pardons? [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Not that anyone who isn't a complete and utter idiot doesn't already know it...but what does it say about your Administration when you have to pardon half of it before Christmas?

It says you are a Criminal Syndicate, as we all either knew (those with brains) or should have know (fuckin idiots) all along.

Fish on...

Todd


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