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#1047200 - 02/09/21 01:11 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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They sure hooked Fatso up with a sh!tty public defender for this trial. Dude is just a babbling fool.
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#1047208 - 02/09/21 02:00 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Dan S.]
Steelheadman Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
David Schoen Former President Trump's Defense Lawyer paints Trump as a victim who hasn't received due process. The Constitution doesn't guarantee due process in impeachment proceedings. Yeah they give presidents the right to legal representation. Most legal experts agree that impeachment is constitutional after leaving office. The powers of the House and Senate for impeachment are spelled out in the Constitution. Trump's lawyers are attacking the process and ignoring the facts. I like the old English law that ends with execution following conviction.
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#1047211 - 02/09/21 02:51 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4526
You guys really are expert 2nd guessers based on your first guess.

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#1047212 - 02/09/21 04:10 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
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https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impea...nt-donald-trump

Impeachment trial moves forward, six Republicans join all 48 Democrats and all 2 Independents in calling the trial Constitutional.

I watched the President's legal team today...they looked exactly like a team that was brought on last minute, unprepared, and like they don't expect to get paid, so are giving him his money's worth. They were miserable.

It won't matter, because this is a political proceeding, not a legal proceeding, but they were miserable by any measure.

Fish on...

Todd
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#1047214 - 02/09/21 04:27 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
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If the Senate was impartial on this impeachment based on evidence presented it would be unanimous to convict. There is only one reason any Senator will vote not guilty and no reasonable reason not to vote guilty.

Playing within the party lines is the name of this shitshow, cowards more worried about their jobs than their country will ignore doing what is right in hope of future rewards from trump and his ilk, it's not hard to imagine that they will get boned in the end.
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#1047215 - 02/09/21 04:34 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
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Everyone who backs Trump ends up with an orange ring around their ass eventually...but morons keep lining up and spreading their cheeks.

#maga

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#1047218 - 02/09/21 05:02 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
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Todd, I have no doubt there were millions of "slightly right" voters that voted
for Trump the first time around. He talked a good story, but then became
the asshole everyone feared he would, and their eyes were opened.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but neither are all politically conservative
people Trump supporters.

On a hundred point scale, I'd bet that 90% of Americans fall within +/- 15
points of the middle. The far right, and far left seems to be where all the
problems are coming from.

If they let Trump go, he should pack up his crap and move to one of his
hotels in another country. Like Zimbabwe.

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#1047219 - 02/09/21 06:20 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: GoldDigger]
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Originally Posted By: GoldDigger


On a hundred point scale, I'd bet that 90% of Americans fall within +/- 15
points of the middle. The far right, and far left seems to be where all the
problems are coming from.



Agree
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#1047335 - 02/10/21 01:11 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1867
Loc: Spokane WA
It's been a rather impressive lineup of Representatives presenting evidence against Trump.

No top secret investigations to find evidence, just showing the timeline of Trump tweets and speeches leading up to January 6th.

Much the evidence was new to me, and considerably worse for Trump than what I had been aware of before.

Many Republican Senators have been sitting back with their feet up on their desks and reading other stuff to show they are purposely ignoring what's being said.


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#1047367 - 02/10/21 02:14 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1867
Loc: Spokane WA
The new security footage being released is rather disturbing. It shows just how close the mob was to achieving their goal of capturing Pence and members of Congress.

Also more audio of what the mob was saying while searching the capital. Being nice and polite was not part of the game plan.

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#1047412 - 02/10/21 04:51 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1867
Loc: Spokane WA
Adjourned for the day.

Evo should watch it, the former President will need his expertise to defend himself.

Or just wait and let the Republicans hold their noses and vote to acquit.

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#1047416 - 02/10/21 05:17 PM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Republicans are just like Evo - lazy, stupid and hungry for Trump's cock.

So Fatty McFatterson has nothing to worry about.

That's Trump, not Evo.

lol
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#1047441 - 02/11/21 10:36 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13468
Inciting insurrection. When isn't that a capitol crime?

This got me to thinking, if Trump is not convicted by the Senate, might the Dep't. of Justice criminally prosecute Trump for inciting insurrection? A criminal conviction for that should land Trump somewhere much less comfortable than Mar a Lago. That orange jumpsuit thing?

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#1047447 - 02/11/21 10:56 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Salmo g.]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Trump may find it tough going on his quest to get out of the woods.
He could be charged under the 14the Amendment.

"Section 3 of the 14th Amendment provides an alternative path for disqualification.
The provision states that no person shall hold office if they have engaged in “insurrection or rebellion” against the United States. It was enacted following the Civil War to bar Confederates from holding public office."

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#1047453 - 02/11/21 11:19 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7608
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Would charging under the 14th be heard in Federal Court and have at a theoretically honest jury or judge decide?

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#1047454 - 02/11/21 11:29 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Carcassman]
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Registered: 08/12/19
Posts: 1424
Loc: worshington
If federal charges are too slow, this might be quicker way to an orange jumpsuit and a lifetime of butt reamage.

"It Sure Looks Like Trump Will Face Criminal Charges for Election Fraud"

"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has opened a criminal investigation into Donald Trump’s attempt to interfere with Georgia’s election"

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#1047555 - 02/12/21 09:46 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1867
Loc: Spokane WA
The defense is using some odd tactics.

We are going to show you things the Dems prepared, but didn't show you because they weren't accurate.

We don't think some of the things the Dems did showed you were accurate. But didn't present any examples.

Then showed news clips of Trump the Dems used, but continued on where the Dems cut them off, all it showed was Trump doubling down on threats.

There were clips of Dems making comments about fighting, mostly fighting legislation, but edited to just show them saying "fight".

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#1047556 - 02/12/21 09:51 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 08/12/19
Posts: 1424
Loc: worshington
Oh, he hires only the best people.

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#1047558 - 02/12/21 09:59 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1867
Loc: Spokane WA
The Dems saying "fight" clips are continuing, it's becoming a joke.

Some edited to show them repeatedly saying fight fight fight fight.

Even Hillary is making the fight show.

This will be late show comedy fodder.

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#1047566 - 02/12/21 10:51 AM Re: Trump's Formal Impeachment Response [Re: ondarvr]
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Trump's lawyer can't defend his client with facts. Going after the prosecution like Donald is the victim. Sick. Lying Ted and Hypocrite Graham have already made up their minds. Ignoring the domestic attack on our capitol is treason.
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