#1048482 - 03/05/21 12:13 PM
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Repeat Spawner
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When Trump opened up oil exploration in AK and tried to auction off leases at the end of last year, there was little interest from the oil industry. It was a non event.
It was seen by Trump as an opportunity to stab at the libs on the way out.
Sorta like when he tried to get car makers to reduce fuel efficiency and increase emissions...just because, stupid...and it would own the libs. Of course the car makers mostly told him to fvck off, as in, "Fvck off we'll just have to rework everything again in 4 years, and by the way, we have kids we'd like to see breathe clean air, too. And lots of our customers like to save on gas, stupid. I'm getting tired of all this owning. lol.
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#1048483 - 03/05/21 12:21 PM
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King of the Beach
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I know right wing talking points and facts don't often go together, but here are a few we can try and fit into the narrative... First is a shot of oil production in the USA over the last many years...you can see how Obama hated America and only increased production about 100%...then you can see how Trump saved America by increasing it about 75%, at its peak... The most interesting part is how Sleepy Joe managed to reach all the way back to early 2020 and use his policies to cause production to plummet about 30%...for being so sleep, he's pretty effective, even for a full year before he was elected. The second shot is retail diesel prices in the US...you can see how Biden managed to cause it to go up in price thru the entire Trump presidency...until, shockingly, early 2020 when the bottom fell out, just like with oil production. Demand disappeared in Q2 2020, and it's just now coming back...demand goes up, price goes up. When there is a simple, easy, and obviously correct answer to your question, but you still need to do a bunch of make-up-facts and mental gymnastics to explain your conspiracy theory...well, maybe you're wrong. Fish on... Todd Thanks for the facts, I stand corrected.... And, you too Paker... Now, I'm going to dump $5k into XOM... Keith CVX might have been a better play if you got in a few months ago and before Buffet jumped in on it. It’s not sucking today SF
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#1048484 - 03/05/21 12:21 PM
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It's just like most of the political conversations here...
Cultists: Here's something really stupid!
Others: You know that's stupid, right?
Cultists: Haha! Owned you!
Others: Here's some facts, any interest in the truth?
Cultists: Hahahaha! Now I really owned you! Livin' rent free in your owned head!
#maga
Fish on...
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#1048487 - 03/05/21 12:31 PM
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#1048492 - 03/05/21 01:04 PM
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BUCK NASTY!!
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You would be better served to invest that 5K into higher education. I'm sure you struggle with remembering yesterday... Take another hit man! Keith
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#1048511 - 03/05/21 01:45 PM
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River Nutrients
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It's better to be thought to be an idiot, than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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#1048518 - 03/05/21 02:01 PM
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I'm going to dump $5k into XOM... That's a pretty good bet...for a year. I can see it coming back up to pre-COVID numbers before it plays the roller coaster game. I'd like to believe you could make $20/share in a year on Exon. You would be better served to invest that 5K into higher education. Why? Couple ways I can read in to your statement: I'm going to start my presumption that this was an attempt at a smart-ass comment pointing at Stlhdr1's knowledge and/or your presumption that having a higher education degree must make one more "smarter" than a person who does not have a higher education degree. What is a degree going to get Sthldr1 that he doesn't already have? There's something to be said for having a good chunk of common sense, a willingness to work and the yearning to keep on learning. I have spent countless hours getting to know Stlhdr1 and will vouch that he does indeed have a lot of common sense, is smart, a hard worker, and never stops learning. A higher education degree doesn't guarantee anyone anything, nor is it a fix-all to how one measures success or one's education level. I believe one our America's downfall is this imaginary belief that you will not succeed in America without a higher education degree. I truly wish America would invest in the trades and trade schools as a legitimate option for kids graduating high school. If it's just a straight investment, he would be smart to invest in a 509B, or the GET program so that his daughter will have the financial opportunity to go to a higher education if she is able and willing to do so. Better served? As none of us know the market, that may or may not be a true statement.
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#1048577 - 03/05/21 03:11 PM
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BUCK NASTY!!
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It's better to be thought to be an idiot, than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt. It's killing me... How exactly do you measure successes in life? You know half of being smart is knowing what your dumb about... Keith
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#1048596 - 03/05/21 03:44 PM
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River Nutrients
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I'm going to dump $5k into XOM... That's a pretty good bet...for a year. I can see it coming back up to pre-COVID numbers before it plays the roller coaster game. I'd like to believe you could make $20/share in a year on Exon. You would be better served to invest that 5K into higher education. Why? Couple ways I can read in to your statement: I'm going to start my presumption that this was an attempt at a smart-ass comment pointing at Stlhdr1's knowledge and/or your presumption that having a higher education degree must make one more "smarter" than a person who does not have a higher education degree. What is a degree going to get Sthldr1 that he doesn't already have? There's something to be said for having a good chunk of common sense, a willingness to work and the yearning to keep on learning. I have spent countless hours getting to know Stlhdr1 and will vouch that he does indeed have a lot of common sense, is smart, a hard worker, and never stops learning. A higher education degree doesn't guarantee anyone anything, nor is it a fix-all to how one measures success or one's education level. I believe one our America's downfall is this imaginary belief that you will not succeed in America without a higher education degree. I truly wish America would invest in the trades and trade schools as a legitimate option for kids graduating high school. If it's just a straight investment, he would be smart to invest in a 509B, or the GET program so that his daughter will have the financial opportunity to go to a higher education if she is able and willing to do so. Better served? As none of us know the market, that may or may not be a true statement. I think today's Republican party proves beyond a shadow of a doubt what lack of education will get you. Two things one learns in college. First to shows you how fvcked up the world is, and what little you can do about it. The second is it teaches you difference between your ass and a hole in the ground.
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#1048609 - 03/05/21 10:47 PM
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I'm going to dump $5k into XOM... That's a pretty good bet...for a year. I can see it coming back up to pre-COVID numbers before it plays the roller coaster game. I'd like to believe you could make $20/share in a year on Exon. You would be better served to invest that 5K into higher education. Why? Couple ways I can read in to your statement: I'm going to start my presumption that this was an attempt at a smart-ass comment pointing at Stlhdr1's knowledge and/or your presumption that having a higher education degree must make one more "smarter" than a person who does not have a higher education degree. What is a degree going to get Sthldr1 that he doesn't already have? There's something to be said for having a good chunk of common sense, a willingness to work and the yearning to keep on learning. I have spent countless hours getting to know Stlhdr1 and will vouch that he does indeed have a lot of common sense, is smart, a hard worker, and never stops learning. A higher education degree doesn't guarantee anyone anything, nor is it a fix-all to how one measures success or one's education level. I believe one our America's downfall is this imaginary belief that you will not succeed in America without a higher education degree. I truly wish America would invest in the trades and trade schools as a legitimate option for kids graduating high school. If it's just a straight investment, he would be smart to invest in a 509B, or the GET program so that his daughter will have the financial opportunity to go to a higher education if she is able and willing to do so. Better served? As none of us know the market, that may or may not be a true statement. I think today's Republican party proves beyond a shadow of a doubt what lack of education will get you. Two things one learns in college. First to shows you how fvcked up the world is, and what little you can do about it. The second is it teaches you difference between your ass and a hole in the ground. There are educated and uneducated individuals on both sides of the aisle. There are educated people who lack common sense. There are people with common sense who lack education. There are also people who lack both. It isn't limited to a political affiliation. One of my biggest takeaways from college was knowing that I don't know everything, but also that nobody else also knows everything. Professors were frequently wrong about many things that were taught which could often be found with a quick search in the data bases yielding research to the contrary. I also learned how easily research could be manipulated to yield a different result for an agenda or certain benefit. I learned about corruption, and how deep it runs in this country. Neither side is exempt to this and it is abundantly clear. I also learned that had I went the route of a trade instead of college I would make as much money or possibly more than I do now and have no student loans. I would encourage you to read more, especially if you think that Republicans cannot be smart or educated or if you believe that higher education is the only way one can become successful or educated. -FishDam
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#1048611 - 03/06/21 07:05 AM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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I'm going to dump $5k into XOM... That's a pretty good bet...for a year. I can see it coming back up to pre-COVID numbers before it plays the roller coaster game. I'd like to believe you could make $20/share in a year on Exon. You would be better served to invest that 5K into higher education. Why? Couple ways I can read in to your statement: I'm going to start my presumption that this was an attempt at a smart-ass comment pointing at Stlhdr1's knowledge and/or your presumption that having a higher education degree must make one more "smarter" than a person who does not have a higher education degree. What is a degree going to get Sthldr1 that he doesn't already have? There's something to be said for having a good chunk of common sense, a willingness to work and the yearning to keep on learning. I have spent countless hours getting to know Stlhdr1 and will vouch that he does indeed have a lot of common sense, is smart, a hard worker, and never stops learning. A higher education degree doesn't guarantee anyone anything, nor is it a fix-all to how one measures success or one's education level. I believe one our America's downfall is this imaginary belief that you will not succeed in America without a higher education degree. I truly wish America would invest in the trades and trade schools as a legitimate option for kids graduating high school. If it's just a straight investment, he would be smart to invest in a 509B, or the GET program so that his daughter will have the financial opportunity to go to a higher education if she is able and willing to do so. Better served? As none of us know the market, that may or may not be a true statement. I think today's Republican party proves beyond a shadow of a doubt what lack of education will get you. Two things one learns in college. First to shows you how fvcked up the world is, and what little you can do about it. The second is it teaches you difference between your ass and a hole in the ground. There are educated and uneducated individuals on both sides of the aisle. There are educated people who lack common sense. There are people with common sense who lack education. There are also people who lack both. It isn't limited to a political affiliation. One of my biggest takeaways from college was knowing that I don't know everything, but also that nobody else also knows everything. Professors were frequently wrong about many things that were taught which could often be found with a quick search in the data bases yielding research to the contrary. I also learned how easily research could be manipulated to yield a different result for an agenda or certain benefit. I learned about corruption, and how deep it runs in this country. Neither side is exempt to this and it is abundantly clear. I also learned that had I went the route of a trade instead of college I would make as much money or possibly more than I do now and have no student loans. I would encourage you to read more, especially if you think that Republicans cannot be smart or educated or if you believe that higher education is the only way one can become successful or educated. -FishDam College-educated people make over a million dollars more over the course of their lives than those without a college education. Pick the right major and your loans will be less of a burden.
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#1048620 - 03/06/21 09:13 AM
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BUCK NASTY!!
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I'm going to dump $5k into XOM... That's a pretty good bet...for a year. I can see it coming back up to pre-COVID numbers before it plays the roller coaster game. I'd like to believe you could make $20/share in a year on Exon. You would be better served to invest that 5K into higher education. Why? Couple ways I can read in to your statement: I'm going to start my presumption that this was an attempt at a smart-ass comment pointing at Stlhdr1's knowledge and/or your presumption that having a higher education degree must make one more "smarter" than a person who does not have a higher education degree. What is a degree going to get Sthldr1 that he doesn't already have? There's something to be said for having a good chunk of common sense, a willingness to work and the yearning to keep on learning. I have spent countless hours getting to know Stlhdr1 and will vouch that he does indeed have a lot of common sense, is smart, a hard worker, and never stops learning. A higher education degree doesn't guarantee anyone anything, nor is it a fix-all to how one measures success or one's education level. I believe one our America's downfall is this imaginary belief that you will not succeed in America without a higher education degree. I truly wish America would invest in the trades and trade schools as a legitimate option for kids graduating high school. If it's just a straight investment, he would be smart to invest in a 509B, or the GET program so that his daughter will have the financial opportunity to go to a higher education if she is able and willing to do so. Better served? As none of us know the market, that may or may not be a true statement. I think today's Republican party proves beyond a shadow of a doubt what lack of education will get you. Two things one learns in college. First to shows you how fvcked up the world is, and what little you can do about it. The second is it teaches you difference between your ass and a hole in the ground. And.... You're one with the almighty college education? I know so many from both sides of the party line with a 4 year degree that haven't measured to sh!t in life or better yet, even pursued their opportunities. Sort of falls back into that reactive vs proactive personality type and the simple lack of common sense. Today's world has become fvcked because so many expect it on a silver platter. But then again you side stepped the question, you never defined how you measure ones successes? Honestly, I'm curious. Keith
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#1048659 - 03/08/21 09:10 AM
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You are exactly right, Salmo g. It boils down to how you define success. For myself, success is defined by happiness and ease of life. What is happiness and ease of life? Happiness is being able to wake up every day with a smile on my face and having meaning and purpose to my life. My family and my career contribute to this.
What is ease of life? Do I have to work constantly? Do I have enough money to keep the bill collectors at bay and have plenty left over to enjoy my life without the stress of finances? Do I have good self-awareness and interpersonal skills to connect well with others? Do I have my life structured in such a way that I do not feel overwhelmed? Do I have adequate skills to navigate and overcome challenges when they do surface?
A variety of combinations can lead to having all these things.
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#1048662 - 03/08/21 10:20 AM
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#1048707 - 03/09/21 03:02 PM
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#1048709 - 03/09/21 05:31 PM
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LOL My ol' boss told me a funny story. He noticed that some of his First Wife's panties had holes in the butt. George said, "What the hey ?"
She said that when he was at work, she'd get bored and light off her farts. Sometimes the flame would get too close !
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#1048722 - 03/10/21 08:59 AM
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