Zero flu cases???





HHHhhhmmmmm.............Very interesting.
I wonder why????

Does the flu have a new name.???

https://www.doh.wa.gov/portals/1/documents/5100/420-100-fluupdate.pdf

That's the full weekly/seasonal update page...

Who knew? Social distancing and wearing masks keeps us from having big influenza outbreaks too.

Shocking.

Fish on...

Todd

Freedom freedom, what a bunch of bumbfvcks.
In less than a year the Republican dumbasses have killed more Americans than all the wars combined.
Well played.

Well that's a "own the libs" prank that really backfired on ol WD40.

C'mon man, step it up.

I find it interesting that it seems to bother some people.
On the surface it seems like it would be a good thing.
...or is it?
Does the brown bottle flu still exist....?

Where is RichG when you need the hard questions answered?

Lots of low IQ opinions and comments in social media about this.

What it showed was how much more contagious C19 is compared to the typical flue. Even when modest efforts are made to social distance and follow simple precautions, the flue rate drops dramatically.

Some states had severe challenges following even simple precautions, but was that a real surprise.

And in a normal year truly documented flue deaths are very low, about 5,000 nation wide, the rest of the total is an estimate.

We discussed this on here earlier this year, but remembering facts can be tough.

if social distancing and masks have eliminated the flu, then why is a less contagious disease like COVID running rampant?


and COVID is LESS contagious than Influenza, over a billion people a year get infected with Influenza, 116 million have been infected by COVID in OVER a year...

sheeple will sheeple, all the way to the pasture...

Evo, you do understand flue numbers are estimates right, well maybe not.

estimates?

yeah no, they have been tracking the number of cases of Influenza for eons, they know how many people get infected with it...

its 10x more contagious than COVID... always has been, always will be...

It's impressive how much stupid you can pack into one rather short run on sentence.

Fish on...

Todd

2011...


Influenza is a highly contagious respiratory illness that is responsible for significant morbidity and mortality. Approximately 9% of the world’s population is affected annually, with up to 1 billion infections, 3 to 5 million severe cases, and 300,000 to 500,000 deaths each year

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3278149/#:~:text=Influenza%20is%20a%20highly%20contagious,to%20500%2C000%20deaths%20each%20year.

thats the National Institute of Health btw...

theres your numbers, argue that...

They do not test for the flue in the same way they test for C19. It's the same with flue deaths.

They take the reported number and then guess at what the total number probably is.

wut?

they use rapid antigen tests for Influenza, genius...

they are now using rapid test for COVID as well...

both get results in 15 minutes to a half hour..

Sorry Evo, that's not how they're counted in total.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm

you should actually read sh!t before you post it...


"Seasonal influenza may lead to death from other causes, such as pneumonia, congestive heart failure, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It has been recognized for many years that influenza is underreported on death certificates."

so that right there, from your link, states that they have recognized for "many years", that it is UNDERREPORTED, which means far higher numbers...

it also states that it may lead to death from other causes, and that is why its underreported..

with COVID, if you have a heart attack after getting it, you died of COVID, if you crash a motorcycle, and had COVID, you died of COVID, if you got murdered and check positive for COVID, you died from COVID..

theres been plenty of articles that have stated they have done exactly that, which means that COVID is being OVERREPORTED...

they also test for Influenza pretty much the same way as COVID, but a couple other ways as well (sputum tests, throat washes, aspirates), but generally use nasal and throat swabs..

keep thinking the way you do, and this will continue for the rest of your life...

Good on you for asking questions. Too bad it's such a stupid question.


You could just google the answer yourself, but then it would not confirm your bias or defend you from your utter stupidity.


"Record low influenza cases show how COVID-19 is more contagious and 'less forgiving,' experts say"

if it were more contagious, more people would have contracted it...

numbers dont lie...

guess math wasnt a good subject for you...

I stated a fact, you replied with stupidity.

Go ahead. Google what I wrote above and see all the citations you need.

no i stated plenty of facts and numbers, you just copied and pasted like you used to go after other people for..

who are those "experts"?

my link is from the NIH, not some sh!t "expert" quote..

freak...

Evo, you do understand that only people testing positive for C19 are counted. The reason experts say C19 is being under counted is because unlike the flue, only actual positive tests are used in reporting.

C19 has the same problem as the flue, where illnesses and deaths aren't captured in total by just counting the positive tests. Only with the flue they inflate the number to show what may be a more accurate counting.

its FLU, we arent talking about a fvcking fireplace here...

2nd, i know what they do, my fuckin girlfriend is a god damn nurse...

i dont have to get on the internet to know this sh!t, i can ask her, or she just tells me..

ill make sure to bring this up when we are getting in the shower tomorrow..


JESUS CHRIST...

My wife's an RN, then continued on in school to further her education in the field.

See, I know a guy too.

Peace work.

lol

is she retired?

Katies doctor was the assistant Medical Proffessor at UW...

anything i need to know, i can ask Katie, and she can ask her..

its that easy...

COVID is deadlier than the flu, i will give you that... but its not more contagious...

I know a doctor.

Ask the nurse what spotting is...

so who does the diagnosing of patients then genius, if she doesnt interact with her..

also, why does this person invite me to dinners with Katie if she doesnt interact with her?

nice job, you really showed how smart you are...

Asking more questions and giving less answers is a good thing for you.

It suits you best.

yet you dont have an answer...

not as smart as you think you are, clearly...

So what is she going to ask the Dr, how they count the flue or covid?

Both are well know by anyone that's looked into it....ok..never mind.

Katie just tells Evo what he wants to hear so he'll quit bugging her with inane questions to ask her boss.

"Yeah, she said the flu is far more contagious than covid. Can we talk about something else now? How are Jake and Dan doing?"

lol

I wanted to make sure this tree didn't get missed for the forest.

Fish on...

Todd

im going shooting tomorrow..

then to the mall to spend some money..

maybe the gun shop as well...

and you didnt figure sh!t out...

oh, and its FLU....

"The speed of transmission is an important point of difference between the two viruses. Influenza has a shorter median incubation period (the time from infection to appearance of symptoms) and a shorter serial interval (the time between successive cases) than COVID-19 virus. The serial interval for COVID-19 virus is estimated to be 5-6 days, while for influenza virus, the serial interval is 3 days. This means that influenza can spread faster than COVID-19."


wanna keep going?

i hate the mall..

i just take Katie to go there so she can do what she wants...

im always a women first type person, if they want it, they get it..

try it sometime...

Or this more recent one.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52473523

I'm not a subject matter expert on COVID-19 but I volunteered to be our program manager for testing and wrote our work statement for our testing contract that was recently awarded. I've talked to a lot of doctors, pharmacists, and health care providers the past 6 weeks.

The tests have to receive FDA emergency use authorization. I found this site which shows the COVID-19 tests that are authorized, https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/...Molecular-Tests

Some of the tests also will detect certain type of influenza.

oh, and my "quote" is straight from the WHO, not livescience...


https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases...-with-influenza

Now let's add in that the new variants are far more contagious.

if thats the case, how are numbers decreasing?

how come the numbers havent even approached the 200 million mark?

let alone, 1 billion...

Evo, did you read in that link you posted where it said the R number for covid is higher than for influenza?

This is getting stupid, somebody else can try to educate you.

Wait...I thought the WHO was fake news?

I call shenanigans.



This thread is fantastic.

Fish on...

Todd

did you not read in that link that i highligted in yellow that Influenza spreads faster than COVID?

if it spreads faster, its more contagious...

thats why 1 billion a year get infected with it, vs 116 million in over a year...

ToddNN you spread more fake news than anyone...

Oohh...good one.

Fish on...

Todd

Thanks to Inslee, China has been harvesting Americans DNA to infiltrate our healthcare system..

I bet dominion is counting the numbers..

And now the kook-out picks up steam!

5 grand Peter Dan put that sh!t in my hand...

Evo thinks comparing the spread of the flu, when nobody is wearing masks or distancing, to covid - where a large percentage of people are wearing masks and distancing is an apple to apple comparison.

He also thought his backpack weighed 60 pounds.

Don't change the subject...

You scared?

Wanna bump it to 10 grand?

I don't even know what you're babbling about, retard.

you called me a kook because i said China was harvesting US citizens DNA and Inslee is involved in that...

quick, say im full of sh!t...

ill make you look like an idiot like i always do...

Boy, this is even stupider than your original stupid questions. You even made ondarvr give up.

Here's your answer...I'll type slowly for you...

Masks, distancing, no holiday super spreaders, no campaign super spreaders, vaccines.

Sure, kid.

You'll sh1t on the chess board and strut around like you won the game like you always do, pigeon boi.

theres a flu vaccine that billions of people get every year...

yet theres still over 1 billion cases of it and up to 500k deaths..

except for this year...

funny how its only republicans that spread viruses, not BLM and LGBTQRSTUV protests..

showed your bias like always, dunce...

5 grand!!

10 grand!!!

lol

nah, ill straight up show you you are full of sh!t, and thats exactly whats going on..

you scared?

make it 20k then Dan..

25?

We have gone from the usual GoogleCouchExpertness to full on Rich Gee retardedness in just a handful of posts.

Were you disappointed that Trump didn't get his rightful inauguration yesterday like Q said he would? How about that upcoming target of the 20th for the next installment of Q being wrong?

Thanks for picking up Rich Gee's slack, that fuckin pussy went home after proving to be a complete and utter kookoonut...good on you for sticking it out.

Fish on...

Todd

there we go...

I just want to know how post king Todd and post king evo are sh!t posting all day but they seem to be offline.

Take your meds, aderall/meth tomato tomato, both of you.

39 GRAND!!!

lol

Baseball cards, diamonds, fishing packs and trailer combined.


Don’t touch the meth!

so do you know who Bill Evanina is? he was nominated by Obama... READ...

William R. Evanina (born 1967) is an American national security official serving as Director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center.[1][2] As Director of the NCSC he is the head of national counterintelligence for the U.S. Government.[3] Evanina previously served as Director of the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive (ONCIX) before it transitioned into the NCSC. Prior to his service as National Counterintelligence Executive, he was the chief of the Counterespionage Group for the Central Intelligence Agency. He gained his initial law enforcement experience as a Special Agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.


now for the fun part...

since you wont click links, ill just post it straight from the link, and if you want, you can go read it there, its an actual interview, not some fake ass BS site like VOX...


For all the polarization that grips Washington, here's a source of rare consensus: the emerging threat of China's push to acquire our health care data, including the DNA of American citizens. U.S. officials tell us the communist regime's aggressive collection of our most personal information presents a danger both to national security and our economy. As alarm bells ring across agencies, parties, and presidential administrations, different branches of government have taken action over the past year to stem the tide of our medical data flowing to China. The quest to control our biodata – and, in turn, control health care's future – has become the new space race, with more than national pride in the balance. Our investigation begins with an unsolicited and surprising proposal that came from overseas at the onset of the COVID crisis.

Early last March, the state of Washington was the site of the first major coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. As COVID rates and the need for tests were spiking, BGI Group, the world's largest biotech firm - a global giant based in China - approached the state of Washington with an enticing offer.



In a strikingly personal letter to the governor, BGI proposed to build and help run state-of-the-art COVID testing labs. BGI would quote "provide technical expertise," provide "high throughput sequencers" and even "make additional donations."

It seemed like an offer the state couldn't refuse, especially given the desperate need. But officials were suspicious about BGI and its connections to the Chinese government.

Bill Evanina: They are the ultimate company that shows connectivity to both the communist state as well as the military apparatus.


Bill Evanina recently stepped down as the top counterintelligence official in the U.S., a veteran of both the FBI and CIA. He was so concerned by BGI's COVID testing proposals, and who would ultimately get the data, that he authorized a rare public warning: "Foreign powers can collect, store and exploit biometric information from covid tests."

Bill Evanina: We put out an advisory to not only every American, but to hospitals, associations, and clinics. Knowing that BGI is a Chinese company, do we understand where that data's going?

Jon Wertheim: Tens of millions Americans getting COVID tests this year, you don't think a lot of them are thinking, "Boy, where is this data going, what third party's involved in this?"

Bill Evanina: I would proffer no one's thinking that. But this shows the nefarious mindset of the Communist Party of China, to take advantage of a worldwide crisis like COVID.

Evanina suspects these lab offers are modern-day Trojan horses. BGI comes to the U.S. bearing gifts, but harboring other motives. It's unclear whether BGI, or any COVID tester, would get DNA from nasal swabs, he says, but the labs are a way to establish a foothold, to bring their equipment here, start mining your data, and set up shop in your neighborhood.


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biodata...KJ3RdyjvVEI#app


pretty sure that guy is gonna know far more about it than your fake ass left wing bullsh!t websites that spew so much false information they have infected this country with 80 million lying pussies...




checkmate...

You always look like an idiot? I always took you for a retard. Sorry, I'll adjust. Idiot you are.

never smoked meth in my life...

keep spreading lies..

Finally a fitting signature line for you

This seems more like PCP stupid.

you would know all about PCP wouldnt ya...

It really is

just watched it 2 days ago...

So...breaking news...China wants to continue to hack US healthcare providers, which they have been attempting and doing for years.

Inslee is involved? How's that? They offered to sell it to Washington state, that's how?

Nate, you live in Washington State. You're involved. I'm calling the FBI.

Dipshit.

Fish on...

Todd

you want me to get Katies uncles number for you?

might get a quicker response than just calling the Seattle office...

her aunt works there too...

why do you suck democrats dick so much?

why not call them out like you do the other side?

oh wait, i know the answer to that, you are a sheepish cuck, that likes getting fvcked daily by "your people"...

I just went out for a walk and did some shed hunting and come back to a couple more pages of this.

(Evo, shed hunting isn't looking for a place to sleep at night out back of the trailer park)

Evo is afraid the Chinese will clone him and return to concur us with whit.

China also hacked Microsofts email servers...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/mi...i860?li=BBnbfcL

nah, shed hunting is looking for spots so you and your liberal buddies can shoot dope and booty bump China...

Evo, do you think the Chinese haven't hacked, or are attempting to hack, everything.

It's a good thing you're on the forefront of this defending the rest of us, its the ultimate sacrifice.

I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

So emotional... and right on schedule....
What does it mean if evo misses a month?

if thats the case then, why would anyone do business with them?

answer that...

We have our own homes to practice any debauchery we feel like at any time.

gross..

you think im kidding?

he was the head of the White Collar Crimes Division in Seattle for over 20 years..

now he is the director of operations for the National Insurance Crime Bureau..

another guy i shoot trap with was the head of the Tacoma FBI office for around 10 years...

You sure know a lot of important people. All of a sudden your uneducated freeloader lifestyle seems to come with valid opinions.

Tell us more.

Fish on...

Todd

opinions are always valid...

when you make them invalid, you just made yourself a bigot...

That's what you said when you claimed your pack weighs 60 pounds.

With a little digging, it was found that you're completely full of sh!t.

Shocking, really.

Lol. I click on the DS for the first time since this morning and see a brand new 6 page thread. Click it to the last page and see this gem right off the bat. REEEVo gonna REEE.

When is the ds going to get a vaccine for the REEEEEEEVVVOOOO virus?

you one of those punk bitch liberals that want to silence everyone you dont agree with?

oh wait, nevermind, you are...

Dan you couldnt even lift my backpack, its bigger than you are...

Son of a biatch! Just when I think the DS is dead we have a gem pop up.

I like the REEEEE REE REEEEE RRRRREEEEVVVVVOOOOO(sorry, involuntary) that is posting today, more direct, taking shots, not being the victim as much.

Simple number stacking to serve an agenda.

No flu all covid.

Mask monkeys be mask monkeys.

If only the data supported the memes you rely on for facts and news, life would be easy.

If only the data was accurate and not being manipulated.

Zero flu.

Suckers.

More meme material supported by nothing.

Exactly.
Glad your figuring it out.

Obviously you haven't.

Trump lost, that's all folks.

And yet you keep bringing him up.

Snowflake(R), it's a thing.

Zero flu cases.
Zero school for kids.
Money for nothing.
Racism.
Protest.
Gay is OK.
Entitle the homeless.
Teach sex ed to grade school kids upon their return.
Raise taxes on the successful.
Don't fish from a boat.
Burn coal to produce green energy.
Teach our children in school all of this is right.

The USS turd is circling the bowl of the 3rd world and about to be pulled under.

And more false information spread on the internet by Right Wing Wackos like Turd Cruz.

Zero flu? low but not zero.
Kids are in school.
Money for nothing passed 4 years ago with socialism for the rich and corporations.
Racism being promoted by the white and now they are attacking the Asians. Standing up for the liberal Dr. Suess and racial stereotypes.
Gays have been around for thousands of years.
Sex ed not being taught to all in grade school upon return but has it's place.
Trump already raised taxes on the successful middle class.
Handicapped can still fish from boats.
Burning coal is unsafe, pollutes, and causes cancer.
Teach our children more science and math so they do not deny it.

And some homeless have serious mental issues and have been kicked to the curb. Back in the day you didn't see the homeless as they were in institutions or homes.

More meme generated facts, at least you're consistent.

- Wearing masks, preferably two, works!
- Some kids don't need school, they have a choice, dammit!
- Print more money! It doesn't cost anything to print more paper and give it to folks in need
- The homeless are entitled to life, freedom, and happiness. Let's give them a better life, even if it means we have to suffer a little
- teach sex ed, hand out free birth control, birth control dispensers on every street corner in Wa!
- The wealthy need to pay! Who else can we pilfer for revenue generating?
- Gay is a decision and a god given right, to whomever wants it. It's not up to society to tell someone how their sexual preference should be.
- Everybody needs to contribute, the successful need to help The poor

Limit encounters on our rivers with steelhead to ensure that future generations have a chance. Fly fishing only is the future

Teach all of this in school!!

Oh, and stop planting fish!

How did i do WDFW?

Pre Covid the two leading causes of homelessness was mental illness and drug/alcohol addiction.

I imagine you live in a place where nothing has really changed in the last 40 years. So why so upset? Just turn off the internet and you will feel better.

Right. Seems that most people can't process or manage the tons of info that's on the net or tv nowadays. If you can't discern the truth from lies or spin, turn that schit off. 30 minutes of the network evening news and a bit of local news is all you need.

The cable networks are in the business of filling 24 hours of airtime whether there is only 20 minutes of real news or not.

If you trumpguzzlers would at least wipe your chin ...he'd be easier to forget.

Nobody wants to see that.

There appears to be a lot of partisanship on this forum. Do you realize they are all playing out of the same playbook?

-FishDam

Entitlement.

The snowflake drink of choice.

Overweight, underachieving, society blaming, entitled trumpguzzlers have kicked the pink haired skinny jeans wearing twinks and screaming whackadoodle lesbians to the curb and stolen the name snowflake right away from them.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Drink up.

I like when snowflakes have had their day in the sun but still insist on bitching.

I wouldn't call four years of having their heads up Trump's ass being exactly "sunny"...but, yeah, the rest is correct.

Fish on...

Todd

Welcome to 3rd world America.

Welcome to reality. Been here for a few years.

Fish on...

Todd

[Bleeeeep!] Trump and his inbred family.

You guys are still obsessing over Trump.

Focus on reality.

Biden's reality.

He is your current leader.

Why do you keep spreading lies on the darkside?

You don't know reality.

Your right.

People are telling Biden what to think because he is not mentally capable.

Puppet.

I'm not sure it makes much of a difference, I wouldn't be confident that many people were actually voting "for" Biden.

Agreed.

Reality is...even if Biden turns out to be bad....he'll be better than trump.

Book it.

Remember, it's harder to clean up a mess than to make one.

trump had his chance and failed .....miserably, he's a one term wonder for a reason.

Trump did do some really good things while in office...

He lost the House to the Democrats.

He lost the Senate to the Democrats.

He lost the Presidency to the Democrats.

He's still continuing to do some good things, mainly continuing to rip off GQP donors to line his own pockets, and that's money that won't be going towards the election or re-election of other actual candidates in the House or Senate.

Plus, he'll be going to jail for tax fraud soon. That doesn't really help much, but it will be fun to watch.

Fish on...

Todd

Wow, Todd. Are you ever able to stop? Sheesh. It must be exhausting. I mean, I get it. I'm not a fan either, but you take it to an extreme. I saw where someone earlier used the saying "rent free". It seems to be very fitting that Donald Trump is living "rent free" somewhere. He seems to be quite the obsession.

Can you say even one positive thing about Donald Trump? He was able to say a positive thing about Hilary in their debate. Can you do the same?

-FishDam

Those damn 206ers with their damn Covid mitigation efforts.

"A year after the first widespread virus outbreak in the U.S., the Seattle area’s success shows what could have been."


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/11/...could-have-been

p.s.

Bravo.

Covid is so last year.

He's 6 feet tall when he takes the lifts out of his shoes?

He saved a sex worker from life as an escort, like in Pretty Woman?

He was good at reality TV?

That's about all I've got.

Fish on...

Todd

You must have missed this post.

Fair enough, Todd. That kind of proves my point.

-FishDam

Good ol Blue Frank