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#1054301 - 07/22/21 05:18 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Krijack Offline
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I feel like politics could be shown like a circle where the lower ends almost touch. On one side would be left wing authoritarians and on the other would be right wingers. The difference between the two become minuscule at the extremes. Both want to control every thing about your life, but come at it initially from different directions. Top of the circle would be libertarian, then head right or left, eventually circling back to the bottom which would be a form of Authoritarianism.

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#1054314 - 07/23/21 06:58 AM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Carcassman Offline
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I like the circle analogy. Notice how there is all sorts of screaming against (for example) Sharia Law and Muslim Theocracy but a push by the screamers for the Ten Commandments and a Christian Theocracy?

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#1054315 - 07/23/21 07:09 AM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Krijack]
NickD90 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/10
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Originally Posted By: Krijack
I feel like politics could be shown like a circle where the lower ends almost touch. On one side would be left wing authoritarians and on the other would be right wingers. The difference between the two become minuscule at the extremes. Both want to control every thing about your life, but come at it initially from different directions. Top of the circle would be libertarian, then head right or left, eventually circling back to the bottom which would be a form of Authoritarianism.


It's called "horse shoe" theory and it's a real thing. The ends are much closer to each other than they are to the middle. It's an apt representation of modern day America IMO.
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#1054319 - 07/23/21 08:18 AM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Salmo g. Offline
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Posts: 13529
Ah, my extremism is better than your extremism.

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#1054358 - 07/23/21 04:51 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Carcassman Offline
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Posts: 7660
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Since I agree with your extremism, you must be right.

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#1054359 - 07/23/21 04:52 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: NickD90]
Streamer Online   content
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 2390
Loc: T-Town
Originally Posted By: NickD90
Originally Posted By: Krijack
I feel like politics could be shown like a circle where the lower ends almost touch. On one side would be left wing authoritarians and on the other would be right wingers. The difference between the two become minuscule at the extremes. Both want to control every thing about your life, but come at it initially from different directions. Top of the circle would be libertarian, then head right or left, eventually circling back to the bottom which would be a form of Authoritarianism.


It's called "horse shoe" theory and it's a real thing. The ends are much closer to each other than they are to the middle. It's an apt representation of modern day America IMO.


Absolutely. The extremes become more similar the more extreme they become. The roads are long from where they depart but the longer they go the closer they come back together.


-Steamy
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#1054371 - 07/23/21 10:35 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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I like how Steamer pretends he's a "Libertarian" and that makes him the middle of the horseshoe...lol.

Fish on...

Todd
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#1054373 - 07/24/21 12:06 AM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
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No Stars for You!

Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 2390
Loc: T-Town
Originally Posted By: Todd
I like how Steamer pretends he's a "Libertarian" and that makes him the middle of the horseshoe...lol.

Fish on...

Todd


Just like Todd pretends to be a lot of things but he’s the biggest blow hard on the board.

I don’t deny leaning to the right, but I am far more reasonable, moderate, and “woke” than you will ever be.

But keep trying. Something might click for you one day.


-Steamy
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#1054374 - 07/24/21 08:23 AM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Streamer]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: Streamer
Originally Posted By: Todd
I like how Steamer pretends he's a "Libertarian" and that makes him the middle of the horseshoe...lol.

Fish on...

Todd


Just like Todd pretends to be a lot of things but he’s the biggest blow hard on the board.

I don’t deny leaning to the right, but I am far more reasonable, moderate, and “woke” than you will ever be.

But keep trying. Something might click for you one day.


-Steamy


You pretend you're not a piece of sh!t bet welcher, too.

But you are.

You should keep trying to get the fvck outta here, like you said you would.
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#1054377 - 07/24/21 11:40 AM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Streamer]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 3419
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: Streamer
Originally Posted By: Todd
I like how Steamer pretends he's a "Libertarian" and that makes him the middle of the horseshoe...lol.

Fish on...

Todd


Just like Todd pretends to be a lot of things but he’s the biggest blow hard on the board.

I don’t deny leaning to the right, but I am far more reasonable, moderate, and “woke” than you will ever be.

But keep trying. Something might click for you one day.


-Steamy


Here is a Tood styled update for Steamy the moderate Trump guzzler:

Obama friends indicted: 0

Biden friends indicted: 0

Trump friends indicted: 27

Lost the house, lost the Senate, lost the White House, lost all his daddy's money, lost all his investors money, turned Arizona and Georgia Blue, no check from Mexico, no Health Care, no truce, no infrastructure, North Korea keeps building nukes, literally broke all Ten Commandments, according to the bible, and Evangelicals.

Never hit 50% approval not even on FOX.
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Maybe it's amphetamines.

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#1054379 - 07/24/21 12:17 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
JussieSmolt Offline
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Registered: 04/13/20
Posts: 714
How is Steamer wrong? Beezuz back again holding a spear for Todd. I'm guessing you guys fished together? Dan, stay out of it!

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#1054380 - 07/24/21 12:37 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
JussieSmolt Offline
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Registered: 04/13/20
Posts: 714
Nobody wanted to attack Obama the way they did Trump and for good reason, but that's Apples to Oranges. They all have skeletons in the closet. The goal is to ensure that we never elect another president that doesn't fit the agenda. Period. They are trying to scare everyone off. Moving to Costa Rica

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#1054381 - 07/24/21 12:38 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
JussieSmolt Offline
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Registered: 04/13/20
Posts: 714
I hate the guy but I know a witch hunt when I see one. It's gonna be long future of similar heavier from the left. No room to be a moderate in America anymore.

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#1054382 - 07/24/21 12:39 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Don't forget Trump increased the deficit by $7.8 trillion.

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#1054383 - 07/24/21 12:50 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
JussieSmolt Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/13/20
Posts: 714
Time to move on.

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#1054384 - 07/24/21 12:53 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
JussieSmolt Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/13/20
Posts: 714
So many other things to talk about in this short life. Most of you guys have 20 to 40 years left. That's it.

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#1054385 - 07/24/21 01:21 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
The legal aftermath of Trump is just starting, we may have to build more prisons to hold all the convicted criminals.

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#1054387 - 07/24/21 04:08 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Jason Beezuz]
Jason Beezuz Offline
My Waders are Moist

Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 3419
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: Jason Beezuz
Originally Posted By: Streamer
Originally Posted By: Todd
I like how Steamer pretends he's a "Libertarian" and that makes him the middle of the horseshoe...lol.

Fish on...

Todd


Just like Todd pretends to be a lot of things but he’s the biggest blow hard on the board.

I don’t deny leaning to the right, but I am far more reasonable, moderate, and “woke” than you will ever be.

But keep trying. Something might click for you one day.


-Steamy


Here is a Tood styled update for Steamy the moderate Trump guzzler:

Obama friends indicted: 0

Biden friends indicted: 0

Trump friends indicted: 27

Lost the house, lost the Senate, lost the White House, lost all his daddy's money, lost all his investors money, turned Arizona and Georgia Blue, no check from Mexico, no Health Care, no truce, no infrastructure, North Korea keeps building nukes, literally broke all Ten Commandments, according to the bible, and Evangelicals.

Never hit 50% approval not even on FOX.



I copied and pasted that from somewhere else like Wanka$$ used to do. Looks like it was some real good bait with five whiny little shad in the net. Have a nice day!
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#1054388 - 07/24/21 04:41 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Steamer is wrong in this way:

The Republican Party in the US isn't some moderate group of consensus seekers, and they aren't a fringe group of right wing radicals...they are *the* right wing radicals.

In the short span of my life most of the Republican Party platform has both been co-opted by the Democrats, and then demonized by right wing whackos as being "far left".

In the grand scheme of things, Republicans are way the fukk out there, and Democrats are just left of center.

There have been a lot of studies on it over the last 20 years, and the most current one is referenced here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

Here is where Republicans fall on the "right vs. left" spectrum:



Essentially, if you are left of Atilla the Hun, American Republicans accuse you of being a Communist.

They are way fuckin out there, and while most countries have far right wingnut parties, too, they are fringe parties...in the US, they are 40% of the electorate.

See those parties in German, Switzerland, and The Netherlands immediately to the right of the GOP?

Those are literal Nazis.

Fish on...

Todd
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#1054389 - 07/24/21 04:47 PM Re: Speaking of Stupidz... [Re: Todd]
JussieSmolt Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/13/20
Posts: 714
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Edited by LeroyJenkems (07/24/21 08:56 PM)

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