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#1054171 - 07/19/21 10:20 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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The Sammy the Bull Gravano podcast/YouTube channel is pretty cool if anyone likes old mob stuff. He's a good story teller.

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#1054172 - 07/19/21 10:25 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
Illahee Offline
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If these deadbeat billionaires payed their fare share of taxes college could be free.
Switching the tax code to tax wealth instead of income would help.

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#1054173 - 07/19/21 10:27 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Didn't the poor belly hooked pink sorta prove that they do?

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#1054174 - 07/19/21 10:29 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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973 million isn't enough!!!

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#1054175 - 07/19/21 10:47 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
If these deadbeat billionaires payed their fare share of taxes college could be free.
Switching the tax code to tax wealth instead of income would help.


No, not even close. Lets say you took 100% of their wealth which is around $1.3 trillion. Figure a college degree costs around 100,000. That's 13 million college degrees. There are 19.6 million college students in the U.S. right now so even if those billionaires lose everything there still isn't enough to pay just for all the degrees just for the students we have now. Plus you can only confiscate 100% of their wealth once. Since we can't even cover all the degrees for the current student with that money but only 66% of them this year and 0% of them for the year after that because there is no wealth to confiscate because you already confiscated it and in the process destroyed and liquidated every company in America and destroyed the world economy and now you are starving to death. Was paying 66% of college degrees for one year worth it?

Taxing the billionaires won't work because of math.

The only way to fund free college education at current prices is taxing over a trillion dollars a year and the only way to raise that is by taxing hundreds of millions of people twenty thousand dollars each and every year on top of everything else you pay. Keep in mind that to fund it that includes taxing everyone with income at every bracket. Everyone, even old retired boomers on social security would be included in this. Will you cough up your 20,000 a year in taxes. Free college isn't free everyone pays. In Europe where college is free they pay 50%-75% of their income in taxes for all brackets. In Europe a worker making $24,000 a year pays 50% of that to fund the "free" college. They have to tax workers who in America would be considered so poor they pay zero in income tax at that level because there is absolutely no other way to fund it. If you assume 30 years of work plus 15 years of retirement paying for free college would require each and every adult to make a lifetime contribution over their working and retirement years of $900k just for free college. Free college will cost every adult in America $900k, that doesn't sound very free to me.

A better way is just to let people pay for services they are able and willing to pay for. Pay your debts deadbeats, college will never be forgiven.

I rate your post 0/5 pillows, pathetic boomer.

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#1054176 - 07/19/21 11:17 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Why are you carrying water for these guys?
Oh that's right you're stupid.

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#1054177 - 07/19/21 11:44 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Ya, he's obviously super stupid.

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#1054179 - 07/20/21 07:55 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
Why are you carrying water for these guys?
Oh that's right you're stupid.


I think you hit every branch on the way down when you fell out of that tree.

Keith
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#1054181 - 07/20/21 08:10 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: stlhdr1]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: LeroyJenkems
Post more pictures Keith, since you're able too, LOL.


Yeah I probably should. But I don’t..

Keith


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#1054183 - 07/20/21 08:55 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Originally Posted By: FoulhookedPink
[quote=Todd]

So whip out that check book and put your money where your principles and beliefs dictate. Or be a posturing hypocrite libtard shill, it's a free country, the choice is yours. You are free to choose but remember we are paying attention to what you choose and not paying attention to all the hot air you blow. So do you write the check or say fvckthatotherguy. I predict you say fvckthatotherguy and continue to shill for forcing other people to pay for things that you aren't willing to yourself.


Right wing Socialism at its best.

You get the benefits, but someone else gets to pay for them.

Fish on...

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#1054185 - 07/20/21 09:59 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Left wingers always want someone else to pay. When push comes to shove they won’t actually use their money to pay... then use excuses like “I will pay once the 1% pays their share” even though it may be their idea in the first place. Great stewards of other peoples money they are, but there is no such thing as a free lunch. The 1 percenters can’t pay for everything.


-Steamy
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#1054187 - 07/20/21 10:12 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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No Stars for You!

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Left wingers also have the most evident cognitive dissonance when it comes to being challenged in their political ideology. Most conservative leaning types I have interacted with have been more open than left leaning types. Conservatives are more patient and able to keep their cool in conservations when their beliefs are challenged. They will have a discussion with you about the details and both you and them will benefit from the interaction.

Most lefties do not engage in respectful dialogue. They argue, cut you off, interrupt, and resort to ad hominem attacks and name calling. That is because they lack the emotional and intellectual fortitude to engage in civil conversations aimed toward finding the truth of the matter and solutions. Political inclination is actually a highly predictable element in personality theory and people who are very high in traits of extraversion and low in conscientiousness happen to be politically left leaning. It offers a solid and empirically backed explanation as to why they respond so emotionally and without thought and awareness. It is engrained in their pathology and will not change no matter how “open-minded” they take pride in supposedly being.

Anyway, back on topic. Lefties tend to pick fields such as humanities that pay considerably less than STEM fields. They lack the awareness and responsibility to recognize this and select colleges and schools prudently, so instead they take bulschit liberal arts colleges and degrees with debt then expect you to pay for their mistake... because they “feel” that is the right thing to do.


-Steamy
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#1054189 - 07/20/21 10:17 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Streamer]
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Hey news flash! A Dem just suggested taxing commercial space flights after the rich man just completed his flight.

Gotta tax everything and anything you can! Go team Blue!

Keith
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#1054190 - 07/20/21 10:37 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
Illahee Offline
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So who pays when wealthy people get unfunded tax breaks they don't need?
This is a open book question.

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#1054191 - 07/20/21 11:11 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Registered: 03/15/99
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Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
So Bezos paid millions or billions to go to space. I wonder how much he paid to put the Amazon warehouse on Highway 3 next to Defiance Boats. Should have taxed him to put in a 4 lane highway instead of the roundabouts. Now it takes longer to get to my fishing spots down south. Maybe AOC has a point. Obviously we do not tax the ultra wealthy enough. And now we are not getting any infrastructure upgrades. I think this nation is screwed. And we obviously need to get rid of the BS bottle neck in Steamy's stinky hometown.
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#1054192 - 07/20/21 11:14 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
What do you call something that goes up and then comes down and is controlled by a guy on the ground?
Worlds most expensive carnival ride.

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#1054193 - 07/20/21 11:50 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1530
Loc: Tacoma
"So who pays when wealthy people get unfunded tax breaks they don't need?
This is a open book question."


Every republican knows the answer to this.... No one....




Edited by Krijack (07/20/21 11:53 PM)

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#1054194 - 07/20/21 11:53 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1530
Loc: Tacoma
Liberal thinking....

Government "We're going to take 50% of their money."

Liberals (who are probably paying zero in taxes) in Outrage. "why are you stealing from us to give them money.

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#1054197 - 07/21/21 08:56 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Illahee
So who pays when wealthy people get unfunded tax breaks they don't need?
This is a open book question.


More importantly, who's to to say "they don't" need them?

Let me guess, those emotional folks that just wrap their mind around the "that's not fair" mentality.

There are better ways to support the idea of college loan forgiveness, you just have to be a little more open minded about it...



Keith
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#1054199 - 07/21/21 09:24 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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I'd love to be able to keep everything I make, too.

Alas...I'm still not quite rich enough for that.
































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