Spoken like a true Republican...

Keith

nobody needs your opinion on anything, so go blow someone else..

Well it really all depends on what you study. If you gain STEM skills in college, then you can walk right into high paying jobs. Both my kids got 4 yr degrees in software engineering and waltzed immediately into 6 figure gigs.

And to the thread title, my kids went to state colleges (UW and one in Oregon) and didn't need to go to $$$$ schools to be in demand.

Yes, I paid for much of their tuition and they accepted small FAFSA loans which they paid off within a year. It also helped that my youngest got baseball scholarships. Getting paid to play baseball. Way cool.

managing money is crucial, i used to blow everything within a couple days of making it...

for me it took me to have nothing to realize what i was doing wrong...

i didnt even have a bank account.. cars broke down, didnt have the money to pay for them, sold them for dirt cheap, etc..



7 years later, 1 car paid off, another about to be paid off, 30k in the bank, and we can do pretty much whatever we want...

but i dont, i keep saving money, and not buying things that i dont really need..

just have to watch Katie and the fvckin Amazon Prime account

4800 is what I pay ever 3 months for my daughter. FAFSA gives very little which I'm good with being its others money...
I moved her out of the dorm because she was being roped into 900 for her and her roommate payed 900 which seemed a bit absurd being her apartment is 500 each for more amenities.
She will have a degree and a head start so to speak on others with no education however, if she had to pay it back it would takes years and the head start my not be noticed for years!
Search Washington state salaries. That will give you an idea what professors are making and its crazy! Class to a million a year for a lot of the UW professors!!

Awesome! Getting a free education for playing baseball sounds sweet, good for you and him.

I'm not for college loan forgiveness. I saved and invested my hard earned money in CDs back when they gave you a 10% return when there was inflation. My freshman year was cheap I think it was $500 per semester and $2000 room and board in the dorm. Tuition like doubled or tripled by my senior year. My parents chipped in some and I worked 25 hours a week and summers to earn.

Now the graduates get a bonus when they are hired to pay off some of their debt.

My son and daughter never went to college. My son went to trade school in construction and was able to find work through the union and has plenty of work in Seattle. He kind of regrets not going to college because carpentry work is tough. My other older son works construction in Vegas for some firm and makes more than I do with my engineering degree.

What wrong with all you guys having perfectly reasonable opinions and doing good for your kids? This is the Darkside! Where are all the liberal idiots and butthurt broke debtors? Steelheadman, DBS and Timber sound like you raised them right. That's awesome!

Timber I agree with most of what you said but not the head start. You don't get a head start by going to school, you get a head start by working and investing and the earlier you do it is the head start. Not that you can't catch up or that it is always a wrong decision but if you do the math, compared to someone who went in construction but started 4 years earlier, it's a either financially worse off to go to college even when 100% paid for or maybe a wash, depending on how much you make when you graduate. No matter how you pencil it out you will never be better off financially by going to college as opposed to working and investing at best you can break even. There is no head start by going to college, the head start is by working and investing, the sooner you start that the better it's hard to get over the lost opportunity cost, it is such a head start that it is almost impossible to overcome that. Good for you that at least they are not in debt so they are not held back by that. Instead of looking at it like a head start, look at it as breaking even and breaking even on it is good enough. But to have the lost opportunity costs AND a huge debt, you are behind for sure no matter how much you make. People that do this better like their job because they will be working at it for awhile. My goal was to retire as early as possible and with that goal in mind, college defiantly wasn't a head start.

They shouldn't give out loans at all, it messes the whole system up. I want doctors to be doctors because they are smart, not because they have high financial risk tolerance.

lmao

I laugh too mini D..

I laugh too..

If you can't afford something, don't buy it.

Totally agree, this is one of the slogans I live by. Another slogan I live by is: 'Do what you promised to do.'

I'm a crazy right wing extremist so I basically think people should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm others, one of those things that I think people should be allowed to do is make binding promises. Especially when it's written in a legal contract.

Sage advise, hear that Steamy Welcher?
Ever wonder why third world countries are kicking our ass academically?
The state pays their college tuition.
What a conglomeration of dumb asses, you should start a party, maybe call it Retrumplicans.

Here is the thing. That bet was BS because nobody believes you would have left had you lost. If it was a bet over money I'd 100% agree with you, but it was over BS. He didn't leave but neither would you had you lost. I like steamers posts, I don't like yours. I want to buy out his bet. How much do you want, if it's reasonable I'll pay. In fact how much would it take just for you to never post again, I'd pay for that too.

I’ll pay 500 bucks for a Jake forever ban and if he ever shows up again I get the 500 from sky or pak

Welcher felcher.

I will match this. Make it $1k.

Jake is the biggest asshole on this site by far. That autistic fvck needs mental help.

Ok you won't take my money. Fine. But you have no right to bitch about him welching ever again because I just offered to pay you and name the price.

Maybe you should just leave. I'll still pay for that. How much?

Can't put a price on your word. It should be worth more than anyone could pay you.

I'm going to keep hassling Steamer just like I hassled Hank. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, and don't make a bet unless you're going to live up to it.

What I can't believe is that someone would jeopardize their honor and good word by refusing to leave PP. lol It's not like being told to give up beer or fishing or something that actually matters.

I'm just glad to hear Evo's become such a high roller without a college degree and without a blue-collar job, either. Impressive.

Couldn’t agree more. Welchers rank as thieves in my book.

Keith