Boring reading. So pretentious. Streamer would absolutely join a radical group of it made sense coming out of Pinks mouth. Trolling. I've seen Zach's videos.

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Taliban has taken Kabul and announced the Islamic State of Afghanistan. I'm looking forward to boy rapists, feminists and leftists executions in 4k. The Taliban was fighting AGAINST globalists, homos, opioids, jews and pedophilia, never forget. The US is fighting FOR globalists, homos, jews, pedos, and opioids.

Imagine believing in an unhinged thing like liberal democracy, that men are women, and that the lives of Black thugs ever mattered. It matters not what the Taliban believe, it doesn't impact any American. What matters is that a relatively small group of deeply-committed people embarrassed and defeated the most well-funded military on Earth. It can be done. Tyrants can be destroyed in the 21st century. If America fails to liberate itself from the Bolshevik cocksuckers, it will be because Americans lacked the will, not the means.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

Agreed but there is one piece you got wrong.

The Afghanis are fighting for homosexuality. A lot of them are closet homosexuals who are afraid to come out of the closet for fear of being raped. You know what the common practice is for people who commit rape or sexual sins or who are accused of being gay? They are gang raped in the streets by a group of men. Doesn't that strike you as ironic? They all actually enjoy the act (and quite possibly the "gay" man who is being gang raped. It is a back-assward society in that sense. Imagine participating as an offender in a gang rape to instill justice because the other guy is a "fa66ot". What in the hell does that make you? They all appear to enjoy participating in their diligence to society but nobody will admit it.


-Steamy

I was talking to this mexican guy, he said about another mexican, "That guy is a fa99ot, he sucked my balls last night." I'm like so that makes you one too. He says "No you don't understand, HE sucked MY balls, I didn't suck his." It's a real macho culture they have there.

I think it goes back to the Latin culture, in Rome you were only gay if you were the penetrated partner and not the penetrator. In ancient Rome having sex with males in the active position was proof of one's masculinity. They didn't have police in ancient Rome, so if you caught someone robbing you a good ass rape was in order for you to regain your social status lost by being a crime victim. In War mass rape following a military defeat extended equally to male and female potential victims.

The Afghans probably got it from the Greeks, the Afghans being descendants of Alexander the Great's army.

For some unknown reason this page was removed from the GOP's official website over the weekend.



Weird.

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Todd

At the end of the day, we can wring our hands and have fake outrage over all the money and lives wasted in Afghanistan, and argue all day about whose fault it all is...but this was never a war intended to be "won", it accomplished its entire goal with flying colors, and that was to take a trillion dollars of taxpayer money and transfer it into the coffers of the Military/Industrial complex...as is the American Way, massive fuckin Socialism for the massively fuckin rich.

Mission Fuckin Accomplished.

The neocons who started this war are the ones responsible for taking our money and trading a few thousand dead Americans to feed that machine.

Any other chatter about it is just that; chatter.

Any talk about fighting for "freedom" is flat out stupid; there was nothing of the sort happening in Afghanistan or Iraq.

It was about money at the beginning, it was about money in the middle, and it's about money now.

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Just to set the table I served two yours in Nam by choice and learned a lot about war and peoples beliefs. So first if you have not read Art of War by Sun Tzu then you have zero idea what drives the Taliban's tactics, Westmoreland didn't get it in Nam either.

Afghanistan is a Fundamentalist Moslem nation and by definition rejects our so called modern social values. Second we had no damn business even being there let alone think the US could put in place a western style democracy. As to the national army we created for them one should grasp we trained them to fight our way and pull all the technical warfare out the national army would get ate alive. As in many places when you create a puppet army on paper you have to realize the soldiers must be willing to believe in dying for it. Just as the Russians found out as did the Brits before them Afcans are willing to die for their Moslem beliefs not western values.

So just because western nations seem to feel that they are the judges of right and wrong for this worlds many peoples and beliefs does not make it so. When attacked the US military should do what its purpose is, to kill, maim, and destroy in defense or in the name of the citizens of the USA. In other words get the job done and get their butts back home. If their ever was a valid reason for being in Afghanistan many years back it has long since passed. Simple fact is as in Nam and many other places you cannot purchase legitimacy for a government. I had a good commanding officer who told us that when facing a foe who is willing to fight and die for their beliefs your only option is help them achieve their goals as conversation is useless.

If you don't have the guts as a nation to do that then you should never head down that road. As to money Mr. Lincoln once said that 1 out of every 3 dollars spent on the Union forces went to graft and corruption. It is no different now than then and will be the same in the future as human nature and greed does not change. By the way Todd if it was about money damn we didn't get much of a deal through 3 presidents and I doubt if the current one will do much better. Lets hope they at least destroy the paper trail that identifies those who worked with us, that would be different .

A PM asked ? on paper trail. Do a search on Phoenix Nam not the bird. Learn what war is really about.

It's surprising that Afghanistan turned out the same for us as it did for everyone else that tried to go there over that last, say, ever.

If you didn't see this coming 20 years ago, you should have.

Oh, you won't get a deal...it wasn't money for you.

It was money for weapons manufacturers, and the private companies and contractors that we sent over there to prosecute this "war"...they got billions and billions and billions of taxpayer dollars...as I said...

Mission Fuckin Accomplished

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What Dan said.

But we brought some western and hope and now a bunch of people are going to die and have been dying because of it. Not sure what the lesson is. I wouldn't want to be one of the guys or girls running towards the airport only to not have a seat on a flight. Which basically sums up why this war has been the way it is.

Contractors ( mercenaries ) have been used in all wars over the centuries since the 1950's our nation also for good reason. Rules of engagement for our armed forces limit how you fight and war is an ugly thing. Do the Phoenix Nam search before running that crap around. The most utterly stupid rules of engagement were under Mr. Obama as he did not have the stomach for collateral damage. These kids fighting our wars now must be well disciplined because I can remember what my CO told us after a mix up that damn near got myself and my guys killed. " When in doubt you shoot, we will sort it out later. Your job is to help the ARVN not die here, screw Brigade. "

I know this wont make any sense to you rainbow flag flying 206ers but ...........................never trust a group of men wearing bathrobes.

Good post from Rivrguy, one of the few among us who understands (firsthand) the ultimate fallacy of the brand of "wars" we've been sending our young people to fight over the past 60 years or so. A couple decades of military presence and civil rights work can't hold up against centuries of faith-based traditions and norms. Killing and enslaving people are the only tools that work for that, and even those don't hold up long-term. People will eventually revert or evolve to the society they want; not what the almighty USA or anyone else wants them to have.

Pretty disgusting to see the media hammering the Biden Administration for somehow bungling this "exit." The way I see it, the only number that matters is number of American citizens killed during the withdrawal. So far, I believe that number is at zero....

It IS tragic to think about what will happen to Afghan citizens that worked with US forces, as well as the unfortunate fate that awaits women and girls under Taliban rule. That said, it wouldn't make any difference if we'd left 15 years ago or 15 years from now; the exact events we're watching unfold would have played out, in much the same way, for all the reasons Rivrguy noted. That's what happens when you surrender (you accept the consequences of being the loser, which aren't often kind or fun). Apparently, our media forgot that war is not pretty.

I don't think there was an elegant way to get out of this, and clearly, we needed to get out. If we don't like the optics, perhaps we should stop getting involved in unwinnable wars to sell weapons....

So...... in the two soup cans and string area code you prefer that they don't wear anything.

Makes perfect sense.

The result you are seeing today was hardwired in 20 years ago...whenever this war ended...during Obama, during Trump, during Biden, during whoever comes next...this is exactly what it was going to look like.

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Todd

Agreed.

For once I agree with Todd. I just wanted to add this as another category of graft and corruption. The Afghan National Army's ranks were somewhere between 50%-70% "ghost" soldiers that do not and never did exist but because the American taxpayer still payed their salaries, the drug dealing warlords embezzled these funds. I'm sure there is graft and corruption on our side too, but not nearly as brazen.

Not as much graft required there...since "we" just gave them the taxpayer money...just handed it right over.

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