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#1055686 - 08/16/21 01:59 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Todd]
FishPrince Returning Adult Registered: 07/13/21 Posts: 489	Originally Posted By: Todd Not as much graft required there...since "we" just gave them the taxpayer money...just handed it right over. Now we are quibbling over the distinction between honest graft and dishonest graft. Either way I'd rather the money go somewhere useful, like staying in my wallet.
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#1055691 - 08/16/21 03:21 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Todd]
Rivrguy River Nutrients Registered: 03/03/09 Posts: 4502 Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope	Quote: The result you are seeing today was hardwired in 20 years ago...whenever this war ended...during Obama, during Trump, during Biden, during whoever comes next...this is exactly what it was going to look like. Your not wrong but you should back up a bit because this mess was created by Bush Jr. The next three had a mess that could not be cleaned up. Now Obama owns Syria and Libya with that silly ass nation building thing he charged into with the infamous Arab Spring but Afghanistan is all juniors baby. It will be interesting to see how Biden deals with the fall out but this was going to happen. Now his choice of tactics to do this is rather lame because whoever his advisers are they really do not know what the hell they are doing to say the least. In war and revolutions you have winners and losers. After the fall of the Shah of Iran the commander of the Immortals was reported to have been asked what he thought of his situation before he was executed. His reply was simple enough, " I backed the wrong side " This is what war is winners write history losers die. Ugly but simple outcome. _________________________ Dazed and confused.............the fog is closing in
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#1055692 - 08/16/21 03:24 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Rivrguy]
Streamer No Stars for You! Registered: 11/08/06 Posts: 2336 Loc: T-Town	Originally Posted By: Rivrguy Quote: The result you are seeing today was hardwired in 20 years ago...whenever this war ended...during Obama, during Trump, during Biden, during whoever comes next...this is exactly what it was going to look like. Your not wrong but you should back up a bit because this mess was created by Bush Jr. The next three had a mess that could not be cleaned up. Now Obama owns Syria and Libya with that silly ass nation building thing he charged into with the infamous Arab Spring but Afghanistan is all juniors baby. It will be interesting to see how Biden deals with the fall out but this was going to happen. Now his choice of tactics to do this is rather lame because whoever his advisers are they really do not know what the hell they are doing to say the least. In war and revolutions you have winners and losers. After the fall of the Shah of Iran the commander of the Immortals was reported to have been asked what he thought of his situation before he was executed. His reply was simple enough, " I backed the wrong side " This is what war is winners write history losers die. Ugly but simple outcome. It was going on long before Bush Jr. The table was being set. -Steamy Edited by Streamer (08/16/21 03:25 PM) _________________________ “Obviously you don't care about democracy if you vote for Trump” - Salmo g. Space Available! Say something idiotic today!
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#1055693 - 08/16/21 03:24 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
JussieSmolt Spawner Registered: 04/13/20 Posts: 714	You guys are are mostly all super smart. Don't pretend you saw a withdrawl being this way. I doubt many of you knew [Bleeeeep!] until recently. So stop, lol.
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#1055694 - 08/16/21 03:25 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
JussieSmolt Spawner Registered: 04/13/20 Posts: 714	Todd and [Bleeeeep!] Streamer, yep saw this 20 years ago. Lol You should read The Bear went over the Mountain. I didn't Edited by JackBurton (08/16/21 03:29 PM)
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#1055695 - 08/16/21 03:26 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: JussieSmolt]
Streamer No Stars for You! Registered: 11/08/06 Posts: 2336 Loc: T-Town	Originally Posted By: JackBurton You guys are are mostly all super smart. Don't pretend you saw a withdrawl being this way. I doubt many of you knew [Bleeeeep!] until recently. So stop, lol. Nobody thought it wouldn’t be messy. Never said that at all. -Steamy _________________________ “Obviously you don't care about democracy if you vote for Trump” - Salmo g. Space Available! Say something idiotic today!
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#1055696 - 08/16/21 03:29 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
DCC The Walnut Registered: 11/25/08 Posts: 1303	For those of you that can read... I recommend the first in the Flashman series for a bit of historical background regarding foreign rule and it's consequences in Afghanistan. Educational and entertaining......to say the least. _________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWCKjrvpXuY
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#1055698 - 08/16/21 03:50 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Streamer]
Rivrguy River Nutrients Registered: 03/03/09 Posts: 4502 Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope	Quote: t was going on long before Bush Jr. The table was being set. Yes it was and the Russians found out but the USA armed the Taliban to defeat the Russians. The difference is giving Stinger missiles to help defeat a Marxist regime and sending troops in to change a nation that has little desire to change their religious moral beliefs. _________________________ Dazed and confused.............the fog is closing in
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#1055699 - 08/16/21 03:54 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
JussieSmolt Spawner Registered: 04/13/20 Posts: 714	Well I double back and recommend reading Hatchet.
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#1055712 - 08/17/21 10:48 AM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
Paul Smenis Repeat Spawner Registered: 08/02/12 Posts: 1034 Loc: In a drift boat...	“It is more difficult to organize peace than to win a war; but the fruits of victory will be lost if the peace is not well organized” -Aristotle _________________________ YOUR MOTHER IS A TULE!
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#1055713 - 08/17/21 11:02 AM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
Todd Dick Nipples Registered: 03/08/99 Posts: 27838 Loc: Seattle, Washington USA	Fish on... Todd _________________________ Team Flying Super Ditch Pickle
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#1055724 - 08/17/21 08:46 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Todd]
Steelheadman River Nutrients Registered: 03/15/99 Posts: 4166 Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA	Thanks for wasting 1 Trillion dollars on Afganistan Bush! _________________________ I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!
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#1055727 - 08/18/21 09:14 AM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Steelheadman]
FishPrince Returning Adult Registered: 07/13/21 Posts: 489	Originally Posted By: Steelheadman Thanks for wasting 1 Trillion dollars on Afganistan Bush! What about the trillion Obama spent? Bush is a war criminal, so is Obama. Fvck the neocons in both parties, amirite? Nope be a partisian hack and blame only one side of the neocon scum. Remember that neocons originally came from the Democratic party in the 1960-1970s and joined the Republican party displacing the Libertarian wing of the Republican party. Neocons advocate the promotion of democracy and interventionism in international affairs strength, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and political radicalism. Bush was a neocon, Clinton was a neocon, Bush Jr. was a neocon, Obama was a neocon.
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#1056544 - 08/29/21 02:17 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
Streamer No Stars for You! Registered: 11/08/06 Posts: 2336 Loc: T-Town	And now there are dead Americans after we withdrew. It will always be a shithole over there. FHP is right that they are all war-mongering neocons. But now that we are gone stay the [Bleeeeep!] out. It isn’t our job to police the world or nation build. -Steamy _________________________ “Obviously you don't care about democracy if you vote for Trump” - Salmo g. Space Available! Say something idiotic today!
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#1056557 - 08/29/21 02:34 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
FishPrince Returning Adult Registered: 07/13/21 Posts: 489	Nice missile attack we did today. What the fvck was the point of blowing up a random child and neighborhood with a rocket? How does this help America in any way? How many hearts and minds did we just win over? Did we hit the suicide bomber and make him pay? No doubt that rocket cost a million dollars taken from hardworking taxpaying Americans. We could just as easily have paid a homeless guy a $5 heroin bag in Kabul to go stab a random child. But that's ok money is infinite right? Let's just print more up! It's always strange to see the war criminals going bombing and droning after these attacks. What part of suicide bomber doesn't make sense with these idiots. The suicide bomber is dead already, all you are doing is creating more terrorists who now want revenge.
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#1056558 - 08/29/21 02:36 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
Streamer No Stars for You! Registered: 11/08/06 Posts: 2336 Loc: T-Town	Great analysis, Coming Soon! -Steamy _________________________ “Obviously you don't care about democracy if you vote for Trump” - Salmo g. Space Available! Say something idiotic today!
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#1056560 - 08/29/21 02:40 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: ]
FishPrince Returning Adult Registered: 07/13/21 Posts: 489	Originally Posted By: Coming2Soon Steamer is always bending over backwards to agree with FP. Pretty funny considering Fap is full of [Bleeeeep!] at least half of the time. Half the time I am not full of sh!t, the other half of the time I'm being sarcastic and joking but you have to have an ounce of intelligence to tell which is which. Streamer obviously has at least an ounce but most of the droolers on this board don't even have a gram.
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#1056671 - 08/30/21 12:26 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: DBS]
Todd Dick Nipples Registered: 03/08/99 Posts: 27838 Loc: Seattle, Washington USA	I'll opine that creating more terrorists was part of the goal, rather than an alarming side effect of the "War on Terrah"...you can't have a never ending cash cow for the MI Complex without a never ending "war". Fish on... Todd _________________________ Team Flying Super Ditch Pickle
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#1056679 - 08/30/21 02:31 PM Re: Afghanistan part 2 [Re: Todd]
FishPrince Returning Adult Registered: 07/13/21 Posts: 489	Originally Posted By: Todd I'll opine that creating more terrorists was part of the goal, rather than an alarming side effect of the "War on Terrah"...you can't have a never ending cash cow for the MI Complex without a never ending "war". I'd agree but with the caveat that Clinton, Obama and Biden are part of this complex just as much as the guy who pronounces it 'Terrah.'
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