#1055691 - 08/16/21 03:21 PM
Re: Afghanistan part 2
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The result you are seeing today was hardwired in 20 years ago...whenever this war ended...during Obama, during Trump, during Biden, during whoever comes next...this is exactly what it was going to look like. Your not wrong but you should back up a bit because this mess was created by Bush Jr. The next three had a mess that could not be cleaned up. Now Obama owns Syria and Libya with that silly ass nation building thing he charged into with the infamous Arab Spring but Afghanistan is all juniors baby. It will be interesting to see how Biden deals with the fall out but this was going to happen. Now his choice of tactics to do this is rather lame because whoever his advisers are they really do not know what the hell they are doing to say the least. In war and revolutions you have winners and losers. After the fall of the Shah of Iran the commander of the Immortals was reported to have been asked what he thought of his situation before he was executed. His reply was simple enough, " I backed the wrong side " This is what war is winners write history losers die. Ugly but simple outcome.
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#1055692 - 08/16/21 03:24 PM
Re: Afghanistan part 2
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The result you are seeing today was hardwired in 20 years ago...whenever this war ended...during Obama, during Trump, during Biden, during whoever comes next...this is exactly what it was going to look like. Your not wrong but you should back up a bit because this mess was created by Bush Jr. The next three had a mess that could not be cleaned up. Now Obama owns Syria and Libya with that silly ass nation building thing he charged into with the infamous Arab Spring but Afghanistan is all juniors baby. It will be interesting to see how Biden deals with the fall out but this was going to happen. Now his choice of tactics to do this is rather lame because whoever his advisers are they really do not know what the hell they are doing to say the least. In war and revolutions you have winners and losers. After the fall of the Shah of Iran the commander of the Immortals was reported to have been asked what he thought of his situation before he was executed. His reply was simple enough, " I backed the wrong side " This is what war is winners write history losers die. Ugly but simple outcome. It was going on long before Bush Jr. The table was being set. -Steamy
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#1055693 - 08/16/21 03:24 PM
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You guys are are mostly all super smart. Don't pretend you saw a withdrawl being this way. I doubt many of you knew [Bleeeeep!] until recently. So stop, lol.
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#1055694 - 08/16/21 03:25 PM
Re: Afghanistan part 2
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Todd and [Bleeeeep!] Streamer, yep saw this 20 years ago. Lol
You should read The Bear went over the Mountain.
I didn't
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#1055695 - 08/16/21 03:26 PM
Re: Afghanistan part 2
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You guys are are mostly all super smart. Don't pretend you saw a withdrawl being this way. I doubt many of you knew [Bleeeeep!] until recently. So stop, lol. Nobody thought it wouldn’t be messy. Never said that at all. -Steamy
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#1055698 - 08/16/21 03:50 PM
Re: Afghanistan part 2
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t was going on long before Bush Jr. The table was being set. Yes it was and the Russians found out but the USA armed the Taliban to defeat the Russians. The difference is giving Stinger missiles to help defeat a Marxist regime and sending troops in to change a nation that has little desire to change their religious moral beliefs.
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#1055699 - 08/16/21 03:54 PM
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Well I double back and recommend reading Hatchet.
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#1055712 - 08/17/21 10:48 AM
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“It is more difficult to organize peace than to win a war; but the fruits of victory will be lost if the peace is not well organized” -Aristotle
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#1055724 - 08/17/21 08:46 PM
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Thanks for wasting 1 Trillion dollars on Afganistan Bush!
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#1055727 - 08/18/21 09:14 AM
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Thanks for wasting 1 Trillion dollars on Afganistan Bush! What about the trillion Obama spent? Bush is a war criminal, so is Obama. Fvck the neocons in both parties, amirite? Nope be a partisian hack and blame only one side of the neocon scum. Remember that neocons originally came from the Democratic party in the 1960-1970s and joined the Republican party displacing the Libertarian wing of the Republican party. Neocons advocate the promotion of democracy and interventionism in international affairs strength, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and political radicalism. Bush was a neocon, Clinton was a neocon, Bush Jr. was a neocon, Obama was a neocon.
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#1056544 - 08/29/21 02:17 PM
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And now there are dead Americans after we withdrew. It will always be a shithole over there.
FHP is right that they are all war-mongering neocons. But now that we are gone stay the [Bleeeeep!] out. It isn’t our job to police the world or nation build.
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#1056558 - 08/29/21 02:36 PM
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Great analysis, Coming Soon!
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#1056560 - 08/29/21 02:40 PM
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Steamer is always bending over backwards to agree with FP. Pretty funny considering Fap is full of [Bleeeeep!] at least half of the time. Half the time I am not full of sh!t, the other half of the time I'm being sarcastic and joking but you have to have an ounce of intelligence to tell which is which. Streamer obviously has at least an ounce but most of the droolers on this board don't even have a gram.
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#1056671 - 08/30/21 12:26 PM
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I'll opine that creating more terrorists was part of the goal, rather than an alarming side effect of the "War on Terrah"...you can't have a never ending cash cow for the MI Complex without a never ending "war".
Fish on...
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#1056679 - 08/30/21 02:31 PM
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I'll opine that creating more terrorists was part of the goal, rather than an alarming side effect of the "War on Terrah"...you can't have a never ending cash cow for the MI Complex without a never ending "war". I'd agree but with the caveat that Clinton, Obama and Biden are part of this complex just as much as the guy who pronounces it 'Terrah.'
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