Didn't see any posted pic?

That one ^^.

Fish on...

Todd

Shows right there that the secret meeting with the Forks City attorney and selected forks area guides got some strings pulled by issuing threats to WDFW. Painfully obvious what's going on there.
We can thank chairman Larry Carpenter and Commissioner Don Mcisaac for that meeting and the lack of transparency about that issue right down to why the season wrap up meeting last year was really canceled. This is a line drawn in the sand by the dept that when push comes to shove they don't give two sh!ts about the stocks longevity, and that pandering to the squeaky wheel(*notice no mention of a guide package either*), acting against current science is going to continue to be the WDFW motto going into the future.

11/30/2021



I got wind of that secret meeting, last summer, you are correct thanks for reminding me.........

Good for them! I'm glad Forks got to keep their rivers open considering the rest of the Peninsula got screwed. Closing down rivers ain't going to help the fish so might as well enjoy what little we can in the meantime.

Sure, good for them...we get to sit back and watch while Forks area guides and people speaking on their behalf rearrange the Titanic's deck chairs and charge people still on board a premium to sit and watch the show while they sink to the bottom.

And wdfw sits there with violins in hand.

Seems like a rather short sided view, Unless you are a guide or one of their minions. Then it will benefit them and you but no one else, esp. the fish.

im sure it isnt all just guides. isnt there a tribe that gillnets the Quileute system? im sure they have alot to do with it too.

I'm not a guide I'm just a fisherman. Remember when they closed down all the Puget Sound tribs? What good has that done. The minute they start closing down these rivers it will start to become the new norm every year.

I can't how anyone who loves steelheading can sit back and thing to themselves that closing down these rivers is a good thing.

I love eating Sandhill cranes.

But I'm still glad they don't have a season for them

Guides? Call them what they are: commercial fisherman. Especially the ones in Forks who have to measure a good day by how many fish they boat.

I felt so bad for them last year, having to get out of the boat at each drift, and actually show people how to fish instead of rowing them right into the fish.

This is only the beginning though. Once the ESA listing petition is approved, it's game over for those 21st century bison hunters aka OPGA.

The details:
https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/erule.jsp?id=2782
Surprised the Salmon will be closed Dec. 1st? The tribal guides will have the whole river to themselves through Jan. 2nd. Not a good trend to start there. Wonder how many OR & MT guides will pack the Forks rivers under these rules? The Bogy will be a joke being the only one to fish from the boat. This is what our glorious state fish has come to. Disgusting to say the least!

ovember 30, 2021

Coastal rivers and tributaries fishing rules update

Action: Updates rules for coastal tributaries regarding gamefish seasons, fishing from a floating device, Selective Gear Rules (Selective Gear Rules prohibit the use of bait including scents or scented materials) with only one single-point barbless hook allowed in all areas open to fishing and requires release of wild rainbow trout. Reduces steelhead daily limit for the Quillayute system (Bogachiel, Quillayute, Calawah, Sol Duc) and Hoh River.

Effective date: Dec. 1, 2021, until further notice; except Palix River upstream of the Middle Fork is not open to fishing until Dec. 16.

Species affected: All species.

Rules:

All species: Fishing from a floating device is prohibited except where otherwise noted in the Quillayute River system. Selective Gear Rules in effect, except only one single-point barbless hook is allowed.

Hatchery steelhead daily limit is 2.

Rainbow trout: Release all wild rainbow trout.

Locations (the following waters will follow the above rules and will close to all fishing until further notice beginning on the date listed next to the water; any exceptions to the rule will also be listed next to the water):

Bear River (Pacific Co.): Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Big River (Clallam Co.), outside Olympic National Park: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Black River (Grays Harbor Co.), from mouth to bridge on 128th Ave SW: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Bogachiel River (Clallam Co.), from the mouth to Olympic National Park boundary: Fishing from a floating device is allowed downstream of Highway 101 Bridge, Dec. 1 through Mar. 31, 2022. Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Calawah River, (Clallam Co.), from the mouth to the forks: Fishing from a floating device is allowed downstream of Highway 101 Bridge, Dec. 1 through Mar. 31, 2022. Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Calawah River, South Fork (Clallam Co.), from the mouth to Olympic National Park boundary: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Cedar Creek (Jefferson Co.), outside Olympic National Park boundary: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Chehalis River (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth upstream, including all forks: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Clearwater River (Jefferson Co.), from the mouth to Snahapish River: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Cloquallum Creek (Grays Harbor/Mason Co.), from the mouth to the outlet at Stump Lake: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Copalis River (Grays Harbor Co.): Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Dickey River (Clallam Co.), from the Olympic National Park boundary upstream including the East and West forks: Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Elk Creek (Lewis/Pacific Co.): Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Elk River (Grays Harbor Co.): Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Fork Creek (Pacific Co.), from Fork Creek Hatchery rack upstream 500 feet at fishing boundary sign: Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Goodman Creek (Jefferson Co.), outside of Olympic National Park boundary: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Hoh River (Jefferson Co.), from Olympic National Park boundary upstream to Olympic National Park boundary below mouth of South Fork Hoh: Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Hoh River, South Fork (Jefferson Co.), outside of Olympic National Park boundary: Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Hoquiam River including West and East forks (Grays Harbor Co.): Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Humptulips River (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth to confluence of East and West forks and West Fork from mouth to Donkey Creek: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Joe Creek (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth to Ocean Beach Rd. Bridge: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Johns River (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth (Hwy. 105 Bridge) to Ballon Creek: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Kalaloch Creek (Jefferson Co.), outside Olympic National Park boundary: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Moclips River (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth to Quinault Indian Reservation boundary: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Mosquito Creek (Jefferson Co.), from Olympic National Park boundary upstream to Goodman 30000 Mainline Bridge: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Naselle River (Pacific Co.), from the Hwy. 101 Bridge to the North Fork: Closed beginning Apr. 1, 2022.

Naselle River, South (Pacific Co.), from the mouth to Bean Creek: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Nemah River, Middle (Pacific Co.): Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Nemah River, North (Pacific Co.), from Hwy. 101 Bridge to Cruiser Creek: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Nemah River, South (Pacific Co.): Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Newaukum River, including South Fork (Lewis Co.), from mouth to Hwy. 508 Bridge near Kearny Creek: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Newaukum River, Middle Fork (Lewis Co.), from mouth to Taucher Rd. Bridge: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

Newaukum River, North (Lewis Co.), from mouth to 400' below Chehalis City water intake: Closed beginning Dec. 1, 2021.

North River (Grays Harbor/Pacific Co.), from the Hwy. 105 bridge to Raimie Creek: Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Palix River (Pacific Co.): Closed beginning Mar. 1, 2022.

Queets River (Grays Harbor/Jefferson Co.): Contact Olympic National Park for regulations. (360) 565-3000. www.nps.gov/olym/fishing.htm

Quillayute River (Clallam Co.), from Olympic National Park boundary upstream to confluence of Sol Duc and Bogachiel rivers: Closed beginning April 1, 2022. Fishing from a floating device allowed downstream of Highway 101 Bridge.

Quinault River, Upper (Grays Harbor/Jefferson Co.), from the mouth at upper end of Quinault Lake upstream to Olympic National Park boundary: Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Salmon River (Jefferson Co.), from outside Quinault Indian Reservation and Olympic National Park: Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Satsop River and East Fork (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth to bridge at Schafer State Park, and from 400' below Bingham Creek Hatchery dam to the dam and all Forks: Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Satsop River Middle and West forks (Grays Harbor Co.): Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Skookumchuck River (Lewis/Thurston Co.), from mouth to 100' below outlet of TransAlta WDFW steelhead rearing pond located at the base of Skookumchuck Dam: Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Smith Creek (near North River) (Pacific Co.): Closed beginning March 1, 2022.

Sol Duc River (Clallam Co.), from mouth to Hwy. 101 Bridge upstream of Klahowya campground: Closed beginning April 1, 2022.

Sooes River (Clallam Co.), outside of Makah Indian Reservation: Closed beginning March 1, 2022.

Stevens Creek (Grays Harbor Co.), from mouth to Hwy 101 Bridge: Closed beginning December 1, 2021

Thunder Creek (Clallam Co.), from mouth to D2400 Rd.: Closed beginning April 1, 2022.

Van Winkle Creek (Grays Harbor Co.), from mouth to 400' below outlet of Lake Aberdeen Hatchery: Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Willapa River (Pacific Co.), from mouth (City of South Bend boat launch) to Hwy. 6 Bridge (near the town of Lebam): Closed beginning April 1, 2022.

Willapa River, South Fork (Pacific Co.): Closed beginning March 1, 2022.

Wishkah River (Grays Harbor Co.), from the mouth to 200? below the weir at the Whishkah Rearing Ponds and from 150' upstream to 150' downstream of the Wishkah adult attraction channel/outfall structure (within the posted fishing boundary): Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Wynoochee River (Grays Harbor Co.): Closed beginning December 1, 2021.

Information contact: Region 6 - Montesano, 360-249-4628

Hell yeah, love to see them called what they are, why guiding is even legal is beyond me.

Somebody needs to get an injunction to stop this baloney. I can see some of the closures, but to close rivers like the salmon, knowing the tribe is going to not only fish it themselves (subsistent) but allow guiding makes a joke out of the 50% rule. Especially annoying when you consider that the tribe does not have any provisions against bait or keeping wild fish. I could see bait restrictions and closing early, but to stop on December 1st? What to protect the possible one or two wild fish that could be caught and released? Never mind one user group general nets wild fish in the system and has no provision against keeping them in a normal year. But of course, the rec's are the problem.

Kind of a side point, but do these regs shut down the rivers all together when it says closed, or only to steelhead fishing? Not trying to mess around and accidently catch a steelhead, just curious if they are closed to sea run cutts and bulls too (aka all fishing).

I am sure it means closed for everything. WDF doesn't want even the chance that you might accidently hook a wild steelhead while targeting another species.

New rule change says all Species Closed. Remember when a few years back when all hatchery fish had to killed in some of the river systems that now have closures? They were so toxic to the river systems and wild fish we had to kill them even if they were spawned out roasters with scabs on them. Same new science they are using today making decisions regarding our fisheries. Bet ya, WDFW made some deal with the tribes to receive the excess hatchery steelhead headed to Wynooche and Skookumchuck rivers.

The reg release says "update to gamefish seasons" so would include sea runs and bull trout. Presumably then would not close fishing in these tribs that are currently open to salmon (food fish) (are there any?).

>>>>Buyer Beware. This information is as good as what you paid for it.

Yep, you are right...the update covers all fish, so closed down completely.