#833273 - 04/07/13 07:12 PM
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#833766 - 04/11/13 12:45 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
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Thought I would put this link up so all can view the Region 6 presentation to the Commission February 8, 2008 regarding the Chehalis Basin. It is interesting to say the least! https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2tWjgmgVy3yNW5jbjV6ZE92VTA/edit Also the link below is to a letter of June 6, 2012 addressing many of the issues associated with Grays Harbor and Chehalis Basin management to the Commission. Oh almost forgot, not one of the Commissioners responded. https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B2tWjg...bHdQeEEwQW5aOEE
Edited by Rivrguy (04/11/13 01:35 PM)
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#833989 - 04/12/13 10:14 PM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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Got the PC going again so it's time to figure out a closing date on the auction. http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum...html#Post833294Sunday April 14th at 9:00 P.M. Remember, all the money goes to FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET. Thanks, fp
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#834369 - 04/16/13 08:45 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
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Well another thread running on seasons but I thought I would put some feathers on it here. Last night was the last advisers meeting and it had it's moments. Seems the NT commercial guys were unaware that the 14 day season proposed at NOF in Olympia went down to 7 and ............ ah..they did not take it well? So as it stands now no 2 C or Hump netting. Chehalis bound Chinook limited things so if the NT's fish there it cuts back on Chehalis time. Here is the Chehalis netting schedule for NT nets and keep in mind this does not include the QIN. Should work out with nets in the river 6 days a week for the month of October.Chehalis with 25 % mortality on released wild ( unmarked ) Chinook. 25% mortality is from " soft data " not a study. wk numbers http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.phpwk 40 / 0 wk 41 / 2 wk 42 / 1 wk 43 / 2 wk 44 / 2 wk 45 / 0 wk 46 / 0
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#834475 - 04/16/13 06:23 PM
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Something good happened and I would guess we owe the rec advisors or a few in the rec community big time. This year has the potential to be the best recreational river fishery in years. A big thank you to those involved on our behalf.
As you are well aware, it can be a mundane, frustrating, maddening and often unrewarding process. This year was different, and the Chehalis chinook were saved from a potentially devastating net schedule. Not singing "Everything's Coming up Roses" just yet, but at least we finally got the pendulum to swing a bit in the other direction. Thanks for noticing, SB.
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#834672 - 04/17/13 08:50 PM
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Thank you all for your hard work and bullheadedness. I was considering golfing in october until I heard that netting days got dialed back. You saved me from a life of suburbia. See you on the water. Take Care, Ken
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#834917 - 04/18/13 09:37 PM
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#834950 - 04/18/13 11:45 PM
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#836457 - 04/26/13 05:29 PM
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Egg
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wow, new here thanks for all the info. I grew up on the eastside and had the privalige of fishing the upriver Chehalis for the fist time this winter. Found it very alarming every fish I landed was scarred by nets. eeeeek.
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#836581 - 04/27/13 11:28 AM
Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET
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River Nutrients
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Several of us have been tracking the WAC process for both the commercial and recreational fisheries for the harbor and rivers. The link below is to a bit I did up on the FTC website that has a bunch of links in it that will allow you to see the current status of both. Rather interesting as neither the rec or commercial WAC's have been adopted by the Commission. http://fishingthechehalis.publishpath.com/latest-greatest-well-latest
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#837072 - 05/01/13 08:45 PM
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Well the supplemental CR 102's were put out today with some on sports for coast bottom & PS. Nothing on Willapa / Grays Harbor commercial but I will do a link once it is posted on WDF&W's website. So here is all I have.
"We did not file anything today re: NOF WB/GH or NOF recreational salmon rules. The next filing deadline is May 22. We may be filing the NOF WB/GH CR-102 Supplemental then. We are still a few months away from filing the NOF recreational salmon CR-102.
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#837081 - 05/01/13 10:12 PM
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River Nutrients
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Just checked with my source on the process. After filing the CR-102 they have to schedule a public hearing, take testimony, make a decision, file the CR-103, and 31 days later the regs are "legal".
This sure looks like the 2013 salmon seasons will be done by Emergency Reg. It also means that none of the salmon fisheries done in NOF that are in the pamphlet are actually real rules.
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#837097 - 05/01/13 11:54 PM
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It also means that none of the salmon fisheries done in NOF that are in the pamphlet are actually real rules.
Real rules? Really? I was under the impression the paper rec impacts have been spent and the season is a done deal, hence the move to go to final print after advisers were asked to help proofread for errors/typos a couple weeks ago.
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#837106 - 05/02/13 12:55 AM
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I am talking about what is actually a legal rule, meeting the requirements of the Administrative Procedures Act. What was agreed to, proofed, and all that may well be "correct", just not legal.
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#837109 - 05/02/13 01:24 AM
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The "dog and pony show" continues in Region 6........
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#837139 - 05/02/13 09:46 AM
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On sports regs the pamphlet reflects the regs BUT the sport fishing WAC has not been passed so WDF&W has been doing emergency rules to keep it straight sorta. Here is GH http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/emergency_rules/2013/wsr_13-10-024.pdf Francis the bit you referred to has zero to do with the current WAC or the proposed supplemental. What the adviser's say or anything from North of Falcon IS NOT binding on WDF&W in fact they can just set and let the current CR 102 for commercials go to the commission for approval. http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/development.html#13-01-064 or they can do a supplemental but either way it is the WAC not anything said or NOF speeches that sets law. As of now it is the current CR 102 that is linked above. The sports WAC is the pamphlet, so to speak, but it does not match the WAC so the emergency and supplemental WAC's are needed to keep the pamphlet and WAC straight. More to come as each time a season or something is different from the 2012 WAC ( which is still running ) does not match the new pamphlet WDF&W will do something to be legal. Most likely supplemental but as CM said they can try a end run with an emergency WAC. The problem WDF&W has is as DW said, NOF is a " dog & pony show " that never matched the WAC process which is the law. Commercial or sport the manner in which R-6 has done business for years can be seen easily be seen http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/registerfiling.aspx?cite=220-36-023 If you take the time it research it this is clear WDF&W has it's mind made up to as to impact numbers for marine sport / fresh water ( river ) / commercial and how much of harvest goes to who / where in February as they prepare the original notice in or around March dependent on the QIN agreement. Now they do move around on species, days, ect but in the end come close to the original numbers they post in the CR 102 which was March this year. http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2012/wsr_13-01-064.pdf The CR 102 is the first break out on the commercial seasons is seldom much different than the permanent rule that the commission adopts and if it is requires a supplemental WSR filing. The rest that comes with NOF is pure BS as it means about zip. So look at it this way on the GH / Willapa commercial WAC. If they post it May 22nd it has a 20 day comment period so we are at June 20th. The next meeting of the Commission would be July 5th as the May 22nd posting puts them one day past the Commission schedule http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings.html. Then the 31 day bit to take effect puts you to August at a minimum. Now if you are a believer in " Murphy's Law " then one could envision a scenario that backs WDF&W up to a time line that would leave few options for supplemental WAC for Willapa and GH so it is emergency rule time. http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/emergency_rules.html
Edited by Rivrguy (05/02/13 12:58 PM)
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