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#1064475 - 10/28/24 09:23 AM R&B Lures
seabeckraised Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/12/21
Posts: 243
Loc: Mason County
Hate to resort to this, as I have more faith in his spinners than any on the market, but has anyone else had issues receiving paid-for orders? I placed one in July and another earlier this month and have yet to receive them.

Orders have taken several months in the past which is understandable for a small business coming out of the Covid-era supply chain issues. This time is different as I’ve received USPS shipping label notifications, but it looks like USPS has not yet received the packages.

Anyone else have a similar experience? I’ve reached out to him and gotten limited responses, but I’m nearly ready to move on and demand my money back. Shame because he does make a solid product.

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#1064479 - 10/28/24 02:19 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
thaxor Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 428
Loc: Olympia, WA
I haven't had any issues w/ R&B but heard other similar stories to yours.
I've mostly switch to soft spinners for salmon (making my own wickeds)

Otherwise First Strike Lures has been really good, they bought the stuff to make RVRFSHR spoons too

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#1064480 - 10/28/24 03:42 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: thaxor]
seabeckraised Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/12/21
Posts: 243
Loc: Mason County
I do the same thing with soft spinners and still buy wickeds from time to time. R&B silver plate is what separates them from others in my opinion. Have yet to find a better one, but I’ve heard Pentac makes a good one.

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#1064482 - 10/28/24 07:27 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
fish4brains Offline
Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah

Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6209
Loc: zipper
I've seen stuff on iFish about the same issue.
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#1064486 - 10/29/24 12:23 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
fishbadger Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 1193
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
I have experienced similarly slow turnaround on orders for components. He's the definition of small business, basically does things on the side, on his own, when he gets a chance to do it. I don't think he has staff, or even a dedicated shop for it. That said, his matte silver plate is the best, so I keep ordering from him. Best to order 6-8 months in advance, and then give gentle reminders. Or get your stuff elsewhere. It is what it is.
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#1064488 - 10/29/24 03:33 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
seabeckraised Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/12/21
Posts: 243
Loc: Mason County
That’s pretty much the way I look at it as well. Usually it’s a few months before I receive my order, which is fine. Just wanted to see if anyone had been completely ripped off and that doesn’t seem to be the case. I understand the small business thing, but a little more communication would be helpful.

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#1064489 - 10/29/24 04:10 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4557
I'll never understand the dudes that are into soft spinners.

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#1064490 - 10/29/24 05:26 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
seabeckraised Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/12/21
Posts: 243
Loc: Mason County
I like them because in my mind it almost has a drift fishing presentation. With a regular body spinner, the body and hook are the deepest running part of your presentation, but with the hoochie spinner, the inline weight runs the deepest, allowing the current to flutter your spinner somewhat erratically above it.

I’m sure you understand the concept, but it definitely seems like I lose less soft spinners than typical torpedo body spinners, and I’d guess it’s because the hook is not the lowest point of my presentation.

Confidence is a large part of it as well for me. My largest winter steelhead was caught on a Wicked Spinner. Black and Pink to be exact.

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#1064493 - 10/30/24 07:42 AM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3343
I started making soft spinners this year. Seems like everyone else does it, too anymore, and it's getting hard to find components (especially in "trick" colors). I haven't done any better on them than I ever did on wire spinners (I have had crap fishing on all gear types this season, so probably not a great sample so far), but I have noticed I lose fewer of them, they are cheaper than quality wire spinners, and they don't twist up your line nearly as much, so there's a lot to like, IMO. I don't like casting them as much as wire spinners. Harder to be accurate with 3-4 feet of relatively unweighted stuff behind the in-line weight. Also, there is sometimes slack in the system when your cast lands, so it can take a couple cranks to get the blade spinning. In tight spots, that can cost you fish.

Also hoping to source some matte silver Colorado blades; as was mentioned, the nickel finishes on most components don't have near the flash quality of matte silver. It's pricey and hard to find, like most great stuff.

Based on what I saw early this season, as with wire spinners, dark colors work much better in low, clear water than the crazy bright stuff. I didn't have any dark colors, but on two occasions I watched people fishing darker colors drop into holes I had been working all morning with little success and proceed to pull out a limit of chromers in 15 minutes, so sometimes, color matters. Before the crowds hit the rivers, I hooked a couple nice fish on a blue over chartreuse combo, but once the fish had seen a few hundred pink, blue, and green ones, they pretty much started running from them.

Back on topic (sorry), I have heard a few tales of "slow" orders from R&B, but it doesn't surprise or alarm me. The supply side in the small lure components business is inconsistent, to say the least, so they probably deal with a lot of backorder issues, product discontinuation, etc.

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#1064500 - 10/30/24 07:50 PM Re: R&B Lures [Re: seabeckraised]
k&P Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/21/03
Posts: 110
Loc: Forks, WA
I went to the R & B website a couple of weeks ago and saw a lot of their product was "Out of Stock". A few days later after losing a couple of old Rvrshr Spoons on fish I went to First Strike. Ordered 12ea Spoons and some Orange Bodies I saw and hadn't tried. It's great that the Rvfshr Spoons are still available.

Right on time they showed up and I landed 1 Coho today on their 1/2 ounce Copper.

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#1064828 - 11/19/24 11:19 AM Re: R&B Lures [Re: k&P]
West Linn Wader Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 85
Loc: West Linn, OR
Originally Posted By: k&P
I went to the R & B website a couple of weeks ago and saw a lot of their product was "Out of Stock". A few days later after losing a couple of old Rvrshr Spoons on fish I went to First Strike. Ordered 12ea Spoons and some Orange Bodies I saw and hadn't tried. It's great that the Rvfshr Spoons are still available.

Right on time they showed up and I landed 1 Coho today on their 1/2 ounce Copper.


Thanks K&P! Always love hearing about fish being caught on my stuff! The RVRFSHR selection is now up to 30 different varieties!

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