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#1064540 - 11/01/24 11:22 AM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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Damn.

Flatbrim just single-handedly refuted all leftist drivel/bullschit about Trump that oozes from this forum.

rofl

While I certainly wouldn’t want Trump as my pastor, I’ll definitely take him for president. Not because he is exceptional, just exceptionally better than the other option.

The left is grasping at straws here going after Trump. It’s the only thing they can do since their candidate sucks. Just STFU and take the loss this election and come back in 4 years with a better candidate. It shouldn’t be that hard to do.

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#1064541 - 11/01/24 11:51 AM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: Streamer]
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Originally Posted By: Streamer
Damn.

Flatbrim just single-handedly refuted all leftist drivel/bullschit about Trump that oozes from this forum.

rofl

While I certainly wouldn’t want Trump as my pastor, I’ll definitely take him for president. Not because he is exceptional, just exceptionally better than the other option.

The left is grasping at straws here going after Trump. It’s the only thing they can do since their candidate sucks. Just STFU and take the loss this election and come back in 4 years with a better candidate. It shouldn’t be that hard to do.

Streamer
maybe they could run a (d) winner like rfk jr or gabbard? Wait... Nevermind. Lol. Maybe Hillary again.

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#1064542 - 11/01/24 12:07 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: SpoonFed]
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Originally Posted By: SpoonFed
maybe they could run a (d) winner like rfk jr or gabbard? Wait... Nevermind. Lol. Maybe Hillary again.


They probably wouldn't have had Harris as the candidate if they held an actual primary and you know let people vote democratically. Probably, RFK Jr., Gabbard, Sanders or Warren. Harris got very little support when she was running in 2020 and dropped out long before Biden hired her as a DEI hire because she was a black woman. But she is a good enough puppet for the billionaire class military industrial complex as she can read the script off the teleprompter, just like Biden! When the leftists found out in the debate that Biden being senile wasn't some right wing conspiracy theory for the last 3 years but actually true, the establishment class discarded the Biden puppet and took up the Harris puppet.

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#1064543 - 11/01/24 12:09 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: SpoonFed]
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Originally Posted By: SpoonFed
maybe they could run a (d) winner like rfk jr or gabbard? Wait... Nevermind. Lol.


+1000

When the moderates of your party leave that tells you something. Democrats have moved so far left that their moderates were defaulted to being conservative. Even John Fetterman changed his tune. Democrats left their majority base to pander to the extremes. It isn’t a winnable strategy. People who haven’t sipped the koolaid are starting to wake up to all of this non-sense.


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#1064544 - 11/01/24 12:14 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: FishPrince]
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Originally Posted By: Flatbrim Pescador
Originally Posted By: SpoonFed
maybe they could run a (d) winner like rfk jr or gabbard? Wait... Nevermind. Lol. Maybe Hillary again.


They probably wouldn't have had Harris as the candidate if they held an actual primary and you know let people vote democratically. Probably, RFK Jr., Gabbard, Sanders or Warren. Harris got very little support when she was running in 2020 and dropped out long before Biden hired her as a DEI hire because she was a black woman. But she is a good enough puppet for the billionaire class military industrial complex as she can read the script off the teleprompter, just like Biden! When the leftists found out in the debate that Biden being senile wasn't some right wing conspiracy theory for the last 3 years but actually true, the establishment class discarded the Biden puppet and took up the Harris puppet.
yessir. Let us not forget who made Harris drop out. Gabbard did, right after she mopped the floor with coma-la. Thank you Tulsi.

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#1064545 - 11/01/24 12:29 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: SpoonFed]
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Originally Posted By: SpoonFed
yessir. Let us not forget who made Harris drop out. Gabbard did, right after she mopped the floor with coma-la. Thank you Tulsi.


Oh that's right...


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#1064546 - 11/01/24 12:41 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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Ewww,

Another “down revised “ jobs report for the last few months.

Hmmm, not a good sign for Harris Biden-nomics. I seem to remember a much rosier “jobs created” picture painted in August, September ?

Now for some more Cliff Mass . He sure ripped into the Green new deal, enviro, green house gas emitters policies and expenditures of late.
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#1064547 - 11/01/24 12:57 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: FishPrince]
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Originally Posted By: Flatbrim Pescador
Originally Posted By: SpoonFed
yessir. Let us not forget who made Harris drop out. Gabbard did, right after she mopped the floor with coma-la. Thank you Tulsi.


Oh that's right...

lol. That's it. Maybe some people forgot about it or never watched it. Everybody say thank you to flatbrim.

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#1064548 - 11/01/24 01:04 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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All the vitriol pro or anti Trump means naught. We live in WA. Our electoral votes will always be blue. Vote Reichert!!!
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#1064549 - 11/01/24 01:40 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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Yeah this state has a 98% chance of voting Harris, tied with Massachusetts, more liberal than New York and California. According to the latest polls, Ferguson has a 17 point lead over Reichert. https://www.activote.net/ferguson-solidifies-lead-in-washington/ So although I did vote Reichert, it looks like a lost cause at this point.

I think Trump will win the national election in the electoral college. I'm hoping that he wins the popular vote as well just so there is nothing for the left to bitch about when they lose, so even though our states electoral votes are going to Harris in the popular vote count, your vote counts still.

Trump has a 59% chance of winning the electoral college vote according to the odds here: https://polymarket.com/elections

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#1064553 - 11/01/24 03:39 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: Mr.Twister]
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Originally Posted By: Mr.Twister
All the vitriol pro or anti Trump means naught. We live in WA. Our electoral votes will always be blue. Vote Reichert!!!

And I'm getting flack for not casting a vote for Pres.
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#1064562 - 11/01/24 06:33 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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#1064565 - 11/02/24 06:28 AM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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It all comes down to do you want to preserve Democracy and the Constitution (Harris) or do you want to do away with Democracy and the Constitution (Trump). You make your own decision. Flat, Trump did say that he would use the military to go after his political rivals not just rioters. He named Pellosi and Shiff. You must listen too him more closely. Harris took Trump apart in the debate. He refused to do a second debate as his rear end hadn't healed up from the first debate. He looked old and confused during the debate. It was embarrasing. It got so bad that he had to mention that the Haitians (legal immigrants) were eating cats and dogs in Springfield, OH at the end of the debate. Really? And he also said that he had "concepts" of a healthcare plan when asked what his healthcare plan would be. After eight years that is all he has?
Women will probably decide the election in the end. Abortion rights will be the key issue with most of them. We will see in a few days.

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#1064566 - 11/02/24 08:27 AM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: Lifter99]
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Originally Posted By: Lifter99
Trump did say that he would use the military to go after his political rivals not just rioters. He named Pellosi and Shiff. You must listen too him more closely.


No he actually never said this. Everything he says in on video and online. So if he said this, there is a video. If there is no video then he didn't say it. I looked there is no video, so prove me wrong with a video of him saying this or quit repeating misinformation.

Here is the closest video you can find: https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363217954112

This video is the source of all the news articles that are making the claim you are making. In it he says: “I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics. And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.” This is in the context of concerns about Election Day security, potential unrest and rioting. Nothing here is about political rivals like Pelosi and Shiff. This is an example of leftists taking something Trump says out of context, exaggerating it, then twisting it around to use against him, yet again. It's the same old tired dog and pony show. We've seen it a thousand times now.

Originally Posted By: Lifter99
Women will probably decide the election in the end. Abortion rights will be the key issue with most of them. We will see in a few days.


All the women I know excepting one is voting Trump. Even people who don't like him and didn't vote for him before.

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#1064569 - 11/02/24 02:06 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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Flat,
Look at the video he did this last week with Tucker Carlson. When he talked about bringing out the military to go after the "enemy within" he mentioned Nance Pellosi and Adam Shiff. How can you compare the number of women you know to the total population of women in the US? Come on man. That means nothing.

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#1064570 - 11/02/24 02:35 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: Lifter99]
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Originally Posted By: Lifter99
Flat,
Look at the video he did this last week with Tucker Carlson. When he talked about bringing out the military to go after the "enemy within" he mentioned Nance Pellosi and Adam Shiff. How can you compare the number of women you know to the total population of women in the US? Come on man. That means nothing.


Are you kidding me, it's 2 hours long. You can't quote what he said? I have to listen to two hours to get it?

https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-live-tour-trump

I'll listen for 2 hours but fvck you for not quoting exactly what he said. Oh listen to this 2 hour thing bro is pretty fvcked up but I'll do it. I'll be back in 2 hours. But one point of order is this can't be the source of the claim because the news articles came out before this, but I'll still listen and see.

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#1064571 - 11/02/24 02:57 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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Oh hes going on about Adam Shiff: "We deal with real scum. A guy like Adam Shifty Shiff. He's a sleazebag and he's probably going to be a Senator if you can believe it but I call him watermelon head. He has the, no, he's unattractive both inside and out. This is really a bad guy, a dishonest guy, not a dumb guy at all. He's got the smallest neck I've even seen on a human being, he's not going to be a football player I'll tell you. So he's a smart guy but he's just a sleazebag." Then he goes on about Trump Jr., Clinton, Russia, the fake media for awhile. Then he weaves back to "Shifty Shiff, Adam Shiff a real sleazebag, he's at an intelligence meeting, he's not supposed to be talking but wherever he goes the press is out there standing because he's provocative or whatever. Or because they figure they will get something bad on me which is probably much more accurate. So Shiff comes out, think of this, how bad a person he has to be, I have a son, I love my son" ... he goes on about his son for a bit ... "Shiff and Hillary conceived of this hoax, so they know it's a hoax and they know it's not real because they conceived it and spied on my campaign so he knows it is false but he leaves this intelligence briefing and goes to the press and says 'Donald Trump Jr the son of the president of the United States will be going to jail for what he has done to our nation' think of how bad you'd have to be to say an innocent kid is going to prison on a made up story." Then he goes on about the Mulleur report and how Trump and Trump Jr were exonerated. Then he says "they (vague who he is referring to here but he is probably referring Shiff and Hillary) are enemies from within and they say I'm a threat to democracy but they are the threat to democracy." Then he goes on about getting shot.

But zero mention of using the military on them. I'm still listening.

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#1064572 - 11/02/24 03:09 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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If someone makes a claim that a person said something, it is incumbent on them to provide the evidence of said person saying said thing.

For example, all this non-sense about January 6th and I’ve yet to see anyone say exactly what Trump said or did to incite an insurrection… because there isn’t anything, but the lie continues. I’m still waiting to see what words were said or what actions were taken. There is nothing.


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#1064573 - 11/02/24 03:14 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: RUNnGUN]
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A real easy test for this is that does the person play a clip of the video and let the person hang by their own words or are they just saying 'he said this horrible thing'? If the person actually said the thing then play the video, no video then you can ignore the gossip from the propaganda media.

I'm still listening. Zero mentions of the military and Pelosi so far, and only a little on Shiff.

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#1064574 - 11/02/24 04:18 PM Re: WA I-2117. Cliff Mass Perspective [Re: Lifter99]
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Originally Posted By: Lifter99
Look at the video he did this last week with Tucker Carlson. When he talked about bringing out the military to go after the "enemy within" he mentioned Nance Pellosi and Adam Shiff.


Wrong. I just watched the video, other than the brief part about Shiff, Pelosi is not mentioned at all and using the military on anyone isn't mentioned at all. Obviously you didn't watch the video but are just repeating something you read in the leftist fake news media about the Tucker Carlson interview. However this is the internet and if you are going to repeat lies that you read in the fake news media expect to be fact checked by someone less credulous than you. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing this misinformation without evidence, you should be even more ashamed of yourself for spreading this misinformation. Do better.

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