At what point will people begin to wake up and realize that the vast majority of talking points said by Democrats and the main stream media is complete bullschit? This is another example of being proven wrong.

Again.

You want to know something truthful that was actually said that the mainstream media isn’t reporting on? Something with plenty of evidence? Biden called half of the people in this country garbage.


Streamer

Streamer,

I'm afraid that the public, especially the fishing public is totally asleep at the switch this election. I pay more attention to actions rather than b.s. which is all I hear from the Ferguson campaign. How could any intelligent voter vote to elect a guy who helped make fentanyl legal. Who also helped make it harder for cops to arrest law breakers, who also made it unsafe for women, girls, or little girls to go to a public restroom, and doesn't want you to use clean burning natural gas to cook your meals. (Wood and charcoal will still be okay) The list goes on and on.

I love getting under that MAGA s skin. He did mention Pellosi and Shiff in relation to using the military on the "enemy within". Enemies within being the Americans who he considers his political rivals. He has had hate for Shiff ever since Trump' s impeachment trials. Keep drinking that special "Koolaid" and let's keep hearing the latest conspiracy theories as they come up.

As far as the State Governor election, this might be the worst choice of both men running for office. At least in my lifetime. It is difficult to get excited about either one of them.

remember when schiff was censured for his trump colluding with Russia bs, that was eventually proven that it was bs, and schiff looked like a jack&ss while getting censured. This isnt koolaid or a conspiracy lifter. Its out there for the public to see. Same with the swallwell and feng feng situation. So yes, these are enemies within.

Again Pelosi was not mentioned at all. Shiff was mentioned along with Hillary as an enemy within in the context of the Russia hoax, that was shown to everyone to be a hoax. He never said he was going to use the Military on anyone, not even the enemies within. If he said it, play the clip. There is no clip otherwise it'd be on every newsstation, all over social media and in Kamala's campaign ads. So play the clip or stop lying about this. Before I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and said you should be ashamed for believing this misinformation but now that you've been corrected on it but continue the claim without addressing the correction, you are just straight up lying about it now. Stop lying. Play the clip or stop this false claim.

Nobody said Trump likes Shiff, I don't like Shiff either but like Trump I'm not going to use the military on him.

As for the conspiracy theory, there are no conspiracy theories here what possible thing stated could be considered a conspiracy theory at all? However seeing all the things that the media called conspiracy theories during Covid that 6 months to 2 years later even they admitted turned out to be correct, I wonder if there isn't some better more accurate term we can use for these things rather than conspiracy theory, perhaps spoiler alert? Do you ever notice that people can call you a conspiracy theorist or instead they can say you are wrong? You can say the person is wrong and refute their central point or you can say they are a conspiracy theorist which implies they are wrong but never actually refutes their central point. It's kind of a sleazy rhetorical trick, in the same category as name calling so I don't use it. I just say that people are wrong and grab them right by their central point.

Flat,
If Trump loses the election I think it will be because those red MAGA hats don't have flat brims and are curve brimmed. The "BRO s" don't like that.

Oh my, this thread just keeps on. I don't feel like I missed anything substantive, but Flatbrim quoted me, so I'll respond to those bits.

Yes, I know some clothing is still made in the US. That doesn't mean that most is not. Not everyone can afford the higher priced US goods, so they will have to weigh those prices against tariffed imported goods. And if the demand goes up for the US goods, that will just drive those prices even higher. There is no win for consumers.

You got me on income tax, went down 1%, but we paid more due to higher net income and fewer deductions. Guess I should say thanks for catching that.

As for the illegal immigrant murderers, your source doesn't give the time period, and I couldn't verify that sources saying it covered several decades, so I guess we're stuck. I don't want to give the wrong impression because I agree that there should be only one class of immigrants: legal ones.

I understand that we can look up a lot of things, however the internet as a source is a leading cause of misinformation.

You're right that Trump hasn't been convicted of rape. He was adjudicated guilty of sexual assault and defamation of E. Jeanne Carrol, and the judge said that under NY law was Trump did was the equivalent of rape. Oh, and he owes Carrol some $84 million.

Clearly we heard different things regarding Trump's intended use of the military. Like a good Mob Boss, Trump can be careful with language. He did say that he would use the military on "the enemy within." Then, in a different quote he described that the enemy within basically includes all his political rivals, leaving it to the listeners to draw the connection.

And if Trump doesn't support Project 2025, why are there so many parallels between it and Trump's Agenda 47? If Trump wins I guess we'll see just how little Trump cares about Project 2025. Just one more day . . .

Not entirely. Consumer debt is at an all time high and most people live exceptionally beyond their means. Most people have closets full of clothes they don’t wear or purchase dumb schit they don’t need. Tariffs would tone down the unnecessary spending a bit. Things may get more expensive but it will force people to reset their expectations and live within their means. You know… only purchase things they need rather than what they want.



According to the Department of Homeland Security, the Biden administration has hit 10 million encounters with illegal immigrants that have been shifted to ports of entry and subsequently released into the US. This isn’t even accounting for the numbers that have not had any contact. If we place an extremely conservative estimate of only 1% (the actual percentage of rapists/murders/violent criminals is still much higher) this number still equates to several thousand violent criminals and murders AT A MINIMUM allowed into the US. Why support the candidate with this blood on her hands, Salmo?



Yes, the internet is full of misinformation. It also omits and hides information it doesn’t want available. The internet wants the perception of Trump as a rapist despite never being convicted. You know who is just as much of a rapist? Joe Biden. Here is a list of only a few of the women who came forward claiming Biden has sexually assaulted them. Look it up. It’s there, but hidden, and you will have to search hard to find it. No surprise.

Lucy Flores
Amy Lappos
D.J. Hill
Caitlyn Caruso
Ally Coll
Sofie Karasek
Vail Kohnert-Yount
Alexandra Tara Reade



They aren’t the same, Salmo. At least for the sake of accuracy acknowledge this. There may be some parallels, but it also should be noted that a lot of project 2025 would be beneficial, although there are parts to it that I disagree with. Democrats are the bigger risk to this county (Republicans only the slightly lesser risk) and it’s Democracy and way of life.



Streamer

Don't pick on Salmo G.

Did you not see the prices on the link I posted? Those were just the first search result I found by googling "shirt made in america" "shoes made in america" and "jeans made in America." There were many more sources.



OK but it is a list of people on the current court docket. Nobody is on the docket for 40 years. It's 4 to 5 years generally. Also since Trump had the remain in Mexico policy, logically wouldn't all these then be from the last 3.5 years since Biden rescinded it on day 1? But anyway, it sure isn't 40 years, thanks for admitting you couldn't verify that misinformation.



Mainstream media is pretty much all misinformation these days, internet is full of it as well but at least the internet has some truth.



Trump has repeatedly denied the allegations, calling Carroll’s claim a hoax and stating that he never met her. Trump’s lawyers appealed the verdict, arguing that the testimony of two other accusers was improperly admitted at trial. The appeal is ongoing.



Play the clip. It was never said. This will be like that 40 year thing when you look into it, you will not be able to verify.



Don't worry when Trump wins abortions will still be legal so your daughters will still be free to kill your grandchildren so they can continue to make themselves sexually available to men using them for sex without having to be fathers, which is so important to you!

Ouch. Truth hurts.

It says a lot about people when their main voting issue is that they want to be able to murder babies and have abortions. It’s really bizarre and disturbing.



Streamer

Wow, this is just getting to rediculous to bother with. Keep up the good work apologizing for the serial rapist grifter. Hopefully by the end of the week he'll be on his way to the history books.

Agreed. They are really wrapped up in fake news and blind to many facts. Most can't get past the party line BS. We really do need an equally powerful 3rd party to mix it up. Would be better for our country. I think most won't vote for Trump out of fear. I'm not because the trash that will come as appointees to important offices within the Presidents administration that actually run the country. He's proven that. Glad today is the last day. Whoever wins get over it. That means no storming the capital because you don't like the outcome. Hope the harbor and coast steelhead seasons work out. Looking forward to lots more of that!

Chill out bruh and just fish.

Yep BRO.

Nice red herring. Typical leftist deflection.

This thread is not what is ridiculous. It’s people who do not want to accept rightful responsibility for their actions or in the face of adversity and instead choose the more convenient route of murdering an innocent baby. Some of us prefer the more noble route.


Streamer

Yup.
Always pull out.

Fortunately we have the right to our own beliefs. Some believe that a fertilized egg is a human at the moment of conception. Some believe that it's a baby with human rights when it is delivered and severed from its umbilicus. And others believe something else. If you're all in on responsibility, how about you carry the fetus or baby for 9 months? Show some responsibility, why doncha'? Your route is only noble so long as one subscribes to your belief. You have no right to expect that.

I bet that if he got someone pregnant, the state would have no problem telling him to be responsible for the next 18 to 22 years.