#129473 - 12/07/01 04:19 PM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 12/05/01
Posts: 7
Loc: King County
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Man, oh man, look what I've stirred up.
What's so significant about this little river? Its not a secret, its on the map and in the reg book. Why is it so taboo to ask where a river is closed and (vaguely worded) "is it worth it?" Or did the firestorm start when I said the word "access", which has the locals grabbing the pitchforks.
Sorry for the trouble I've caused. I doubt this thread will lead to serious combat fishing, although maybe a few more people this weekend. Combat fishing will only occur when a river can support it with enough fish. I doubt the pil has that many fish (if it does, man did I blow it, sorry guys). Also, I think there's been enough "fish here, fish there" posts that anyone who goes by these posts is backlogged at least a few weeks.
Thanks to everyone holding my hand(although my mom lets me cross the street by myself), its good to know there's people willing to help out. To the landowners and locals whose river I'll be visiting soon, I'll leave your fish in the river(although that might not be my choice). In the future I'll try to look down wind before I piss. Tight lines to everyone this weekend.
-taoski
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#129474 - 12/07/01 05:43 PM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 03/28/01
Posts: 117
Loc: St. Helens, OR
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Wow, look at all the turmoil. I too agree that alot of pressure on a small stream can ruin one's quality of a trip. But, everyone has the same chance to find water. I for one love exploring new fisheries. Here's what you do---Hold on to you're hat's, it real tough. Get the reg's, get a map, and get in you're rig and drive. If you really want to get tricky, Go to the WDFW page and look at the numbers of smolt planted two years ago. This isn't rocket science guys. It doesn't take too long to figure out which streams are going to have the masses. If a river gets 400,000 smolts planted in 1999, gee... It's gonna have a crowd associated with it. If you see Creek "X" gets 40,000 smolt planted, and you've never heard of creek "X" on this site or in F-H Lies, then it's probably a good idea to keep it to yourself. This is for brat fishing, nates are another story. You can find fish, and few people if you put forth the effort.
Have fun, I'll be fishing Creek "X" this weekend.
Aaron
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#129475 - 12/08/01 10:25 AM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 04/09/01
Posts: 138
Loc: Duvall, Wa.
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Taoski has hit a nerve on this one with some of us that have been born and raised or have lived in this state for some time. His question was a valid one, he's heard about the P.. and want's some info about it. The answers given were general and I agree if he want's more info than that and one of you is willing to e-mail it to him so be it, that's your choice. I'm one who get's more satisfaction out of putting time in researching about a new area be it AK,CAN,ORE, or a small stream in my back yard. The problem is there are too many people in this area now, it's not like it was back in the 60's & 70's when you pretty much had the river to yourself and fish were more abundant. Three weeks ago I was on the Sky and it looked like the Cowlitz, sleds every where up and down every ten minutes. The point is do your homework put in the time, that fish you hook will be more satisfing. All of you that think you have a secret spot or a zipperlip river, do you really? I think not, you have a spot where you have to work to get to and not evry one has that passion and ambition to get there more than you do. Tight lines to all and to all a good day.
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#129476 - 12/08/01 06:43 PM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Spawner
Registered: 12/26/99
Posts: 745
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If you have quesions about a river, the only way to figure it out is to go fish. Too many people looking for the easy way out. Go to reiter and put your time in and you'll catch fish. THere you can talk about techniques and all that b.s with the guy next to you.
shame on SOME of you....
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#129477 - 12/09/01 11:53 AM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Spawner
Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 769
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Originally posted by papafsh: Wah-Wah-Wah! what a bunch of cry babies! Since your post, Pmartin, came right after mine, I would like to know exactly what "specifics" you are speaking of? Or do you own the bridges now too?, you seem to think you own the river! I don't care whether you, centerpin or ocus like it or not, my post was very general in nature and frankly, like I said, I wish the Pil was closed to all fishing-including yours! So get a life, gentlemen, there are no private rivers in this state! Take your elitest attitude and shove it. I know, why don't you "My private river" guys get the state to take them off the maps? And if your really so damn worried about the increased pressure on the river, then you quit fishin' it! Being the elitist that I am, I wont resort to hiding behind a PC and name-calling. Apparently someone has their panties in a bundle and needs to take a chill pill. Get over it! I did not mean to imply that it was "my river" and I have read it over to see where you came up with that. I did say that I have fished this area for 20+ years. Heavens knows I could mean N. America right papa? I sure as hell don't want to get to specific. My point, I guess needing to be more specific, was just that if you have a spot that hasn't been overrun yet great, if you want to keep it that way keep your F***king mouth shut. Got it? Considering how much this post of mine pissed you off i.e.. Your other posts (don't want to get specific), better track them down yourself. Seems to me you are doing the most crying and whining. Kind of hypocritical? Is it time for someone's Depends to be changed? Opps, fell off that elitist wagon, happens to the best of us.
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#129478 - 12/09/01 09:34 PM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Fry
Registered: 12/29/00
Posts: 30
Loc: Issaquah
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Wow,,,, look what I have missed! No one walks more than 10' from their car, so the "bridges" will look just like it has for the last ten years.
He got his information in the first few posts. Now with all this ranting and raving, we have caused this to be on the "Front Page" instead of dying a quick death.
We can have it both ways! Try to be nice kids.
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#129479 - 12/10/01 12:14 AM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 05/08/01
Posts: 170
Loc: Everett, WA.
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Pmartin, You won't resort to hiding behind a PC and name calling?
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#129480 - 12/10/01 01:11 AM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Anonymous
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And I was amazed at how much piss my lab Whitedog could piss in a day? Gawd talk about some soaking pant legs! Gooose
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#129481 - 12/10/01 05:53 PM
Re: Newbie hello & Pilchuck questions
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Spawner
Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 762
Loc: Silver Star,Mt
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I mentioned Canyon Creek one time on another site and you would have thought that I gave out the most secret spot in this State. I thought that my life was in danger if they only knew where I lived. Why is it when somebody finds a new place to fish they think that they own it. Heck I find a lot of places on my own. That's the fun of fishing. Jim S. :p
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