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#140767 - 02/14/02 08:45 AM Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
fishnjunkie Offline
Fry

Registered: 01/06/02
Posts: 22
Loc: SEATTLE
Hey Dan S,and all other posters who think Tony D is doing the fishing community a great service, for writing articles in detail about rivers that cant take The pressure of a cowlitz,Sky,Bogey,. For a guy who claims to be a respectful conservative good ol boy fisherman, then proceeds to put out info on a regular basis that with no dought could be detrimental to a small rivers escapement of wild and hatchery fish. FYI 2 of these rivers had a similar situation in which they supported a healthy run of salmon, kings,silvers, and the word got out and guess what these two rivers allow zero,zip,natta, retention or even catch and release of ANY SALMON PERIOD. This has been in effect for years,and even with a robust run of coho that was of record size the state and tribes refused to allow even a CNR or 1 fish opening. Why could that possibly be??? Dan S, look on the cover of Northwest Sport Fishing magazine, and tell me what the hell is the gouges on this fishes belly, Is it possible, that the tony D everyones fishing hero, could of yanked one in for the cover photo?? No I am not saying that he is a snagger, but it does look suspicious???

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#140768 - 02/14/02 09:37 AM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
bardo Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 304
Loc: union wa
its a little known fact, that on these particular rivers, there exists a small population of sasquatch. i know it sounds strange, but those are really claw marks from one of those sasquatch. the indians call them se-atco, and they see them out in the woods all of the time. they are mostly vegetarians, but they love an occaisional fish dinner. my buddy inky says that if u dont believe in the yeti, then he has a place where he will be glad to let u sleep out at. sapops.

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#140769 - 02/14/02 10:56 AM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
I'm not defending Tony on his articals about the
smaller river's but,The fish on the cover of the magazine was most likely in a little fight with a
sea lion or seal if ya ask me.I've seen several
fish in this condition the past few years that were hooked in the mouth.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#140770 - 02/14/02 11:42 AM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'm not even going to get into it with you guys over this any more. rolleyes Ever see a fish with seal rash? Well, look at the cover photo....and NOW you have.

Got a problem with wild fish retention? Then TELL IT TO THE WDFW. Have you written to the Commission to tell them what you think of their 5-4 vote yet? If you'd rather chip your teeth about Tony...go ahead. But that's about as productive as banging your head against the wall. Lately I think some of you may ALREADY be banging your heads against a wall.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#140771 - 02/14/02 12:17 PM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
Hey Yall Watch This Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 444
Loc: Olympia....beeyotch
banging the heads on the wall...hmmm no wonder those chicks brilliant. wink

It's easy to talk sheit about Tony, but from the sounds of him, I'd be looking out if Tony started talking about me. eek

I have the perfect solution for all the fishing magazines out here that everyone reads:
-Hire out of state authors to come in, fish, then leave and write about it. That way things won't get so personal (this is the ****ing internet people). rolleyes Because you know we could get Tony et al to fly over there and do reports on other state's waters for their magazines.

....but I'm sure that still wouldn't be good enough.

And what the hell do you have to ***** about? You live in Seattle. I'd feel worse for the people who actually live on or near these streams and consider them "home". They're the ones who really have to deal with litter, and also possible loss of revenue due to river closures.

Tony is doing his job. You may not like it, but big deal; it's what he does.
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#140772 - 02/18/02 11:08 PM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
grumpyr Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 10/14/99
Posts: 379
Loc: Orygun
So fishjunkie,
I was fishing the donation bar on the satsop earlier this year. It was kind of crowded out that day since there were silvers in the river.
This dude down the beach was on a nice silver but it was obviously foul hooked. He finaly got it to the beach and waded out to un-hook her when I noticed a double treble mag wart stuck to the fishes face. Dude was hooked to the pectoral. So another a**hole had already hooked and lost this fish with illegal gear (single barbless at the time) when this guy happened to foul hook her.
So I guess the point of this story is that unless you were there to see it happen you should just not even write this kind of crap about what and whom you know absolutley nothing.
NUFF SAID
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#140773 - 02/19/02 01:29 AM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
UltimateFeashKacher Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 10/24/01
Posts: 293
Loc: WA
Magazines write what sells. Supply and demand. If they keep writing over and over about Sky then no one is going to buy it. They have to add to the general knowledge of the buyers otherwise they go out of business. This is Econ 101 so I would not complain about zipper-lips being written about. I know it hurts if your or my hard earned zipper lips gets published but I have gotten over it and it boils down to demand and supply and free market economy. This is not a Taliban controlled country. Is it irresponsible or unethical? If you want to get into that lots of things we do or buy or sell can be challenged.

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#140774 - 02/19/02 03:00 AM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
papafsh Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 05/08/01
Posts: 170
Loc: Everett, WA.
Let's see....the thought is then, that as soon as someone writes about a river, say something kinda' out of the way and not fished very much, then suddenly every yahoo that can read, grabs all their gear, jumps in the truck and all at the same moment in time head,in-mass, to said river?.

Has anyone ever actually seen that happen? I mean I've read about a lot of really great sounding rivers, ones that I would love to fish, but the problem is I have a life. I can't just go running off to every sweet little river I ever read or hear about at the drop of a hat! I would bet that most of you reading this don't either, sheesh!

Even if I do finally get to that "special" river where the fish are huge and easy to catch, I sure as heck ain't going to be there every day.

I read an article once about just such a spot, after dreaming about it for a couple of years I finally got there, know what?, I could have done better on a river I knew something about close to home.

Get... a. real.. b. a clue.. c. out!

Let's take a head count how many of you guys that have read an article in a magazine, have then gone right out and fished said river? There is a reason that not many people fish these out of the way, harder to get to places, wonder what that might be?

Just knowing that they are there, and dreaming about being there is really what keeps me wanting to read these magazine articles, don't go taking away my hopes and dreams just because you got some paranoid idea that some outdoor writer will turn every river into another "Blue Creek"! Oh yeah, I've read about that place too, understand they catch a lot of fish, never been there though!
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#140775 - 02/19/02 09:28 AM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
riverswild Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 10/25/00
Posts: 318
Loc: OlyWa
Papafish- Well said!
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"Just Say No To Sovereign Nations!"

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#140776 - 02/19/02 12:47 PM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
FISHNBRAD Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 03/28/00
Posts: 222
Loc: Renton,WA
A BIG DITTO on that papafish.

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#140777 - 02/22/02 08:11 PM Re: Dan S. A snagged fish or not.Look Again
quasimodo the fish Offline
Egg

Registered: 01/28/02
Posts: 4
Loc: eugene
We have the same problems in our area. a couple guides from the area, that I have never seen on the river in all the years I have been fishing it, have been Writing articles for the Fishing and hunting news telling them that the river is the jewel of the west coast and an under fished fisherie and that there are limits for the taking. this river is far from being under fished, I guess 25 boats a day on a 2 1/2 mile section of river too those guides is way under fished, I guess some people will write just about anything to make themselves a little bit of money. I am not selfish with the rivers I fish by any means but I would really hate to see anymore rivers in oregon become a zoo like the sixes the elk or the siletz I can honestly understand fishingjunkies worries about rivers getting write ups in magazines because thats what started the guide stampedes to the elk, sixes and siletz

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