Bait boy, Capin' Dan and maybe Mr fisherman will be attending the show. I look forward to seeing what kind of lure RT will bring to this flotilla(Oh yeah he's got blow up dolls). Hopefully the fish keep on pouring through and show up in the numbers that we are waiting with "baited" breath for.

With big hitters like Wiser and Gloa-boa in the boat, I probably won't even NEED to hook anything for our boat to win....I may just provide net support unless we want a late inning insurance fish...

Sounds like a great time guys. If I didn't have a previous committment I'd take Dogfish up on his offer in a heartbeat. It's time to get those V's off that boat!

Ron

Right on Rick...glad Capin'Dan, Mr fisherman and you can make it!

5 boats so far.

Team: Bad Halibut
bait boy, someone's boat, Capin' Dan and Mr Fisherman.

Dogfish...are you still going to attempt it?

FJ...out.

Were short one of our official team Bad Halibut members but I think we'll stick with that name. we will be in my boat a grey on grey 19'Alumaweld

Scratch the RT&Stew team....sorry something came up so we will not be attending.

Nothing personal by our team. We are fishing the Willamette instead. Primarily, I want to wait and see what tone flotillas take on from here on out; after the F4 controversy Gizmo made public. Have a good one guys. Hope you catch lots of them - more for fun than for a state or crowded big water luck contest. .....

In case anyone that's going isn't familiar with this springer fishery, I'll give you some tips (for whatever they're worth). Get there early! .. You've likely heard that flatline trolling Mag Warts in flame red or flo orange is the go-to method. That's true. It is particularly effective early. I also like using the chrome/chartreuse colors, with a flame red lure tape 'arrow tail' added. I also like to do something unique with the Mag Warts - use a smaller sardine filet and thread wrap it in front of the belly eyescrew with several winds around the 'neck' between the bill and body; filets aren't just for Kwikfish anymore . Also trolled rolling prawns (orange colored ones too; not just the pink ones - and try injecting some good salmon egg juice), or K-13/14 Kwikfish are good early also. It's worth having one of your partners try a battery lighted Kwikfish or plug for the first 30 minutes or so - I've seen them hit when it's still fairly dark out. Vary your trolling speeds if room permits.

After the fish get more weary as the day progresses they are often more prone to hitting good change ups, such as the trolled rolling prawns or plugcut herring (which aren't used as often up there). I use a 30" lead dropper with 55" leader for trolling bait near bottom; and use a Magnum Hot N Tot diver with 50" leader for trolling them up off bottom in the deeper areas (some springers will swim around a little further off bottom than others). Using a size 3 or 4 spinner blade or small Spin N Glo on the leader right above the prawn is good. If the water is really clear, put a hookless size 4 rainbow colorado spinner blade at mid-leader instead. Also try switching to the regular size Wiggle Wart with a rubber centered barrell lead weight 45" up the leader for the deeper spots, or try a good trolling spinner; and try the metalic colors instead of the red/orange ones from earlier - unless they are still producing of course. In bright sun on clear water I have done really well with a custom flame red arrow tape tailed copper Wart. Shrimp scent for the lures is good there. If the fish in the inner deep areas go off the bite, fish for new ones coming in along the mix line at the bouy fishing deadline. Sometimes the lesser fished shallow spot further up along that line will produce some fish that are swimming away from traffic - especially if you use an electric trolling motor. And try areas with less boat traffic, if at all possible, such as at the far west end of the bouy marked fishing area. If the bite seemingly quits everywhere, I suggest to try trolling back and forth along the far west outer deadline for both new Wind fish and upriver fish that wander in and out of the fresher water there before heading on up the Columbia. ~

For attire, I strongly suggest wearing Kevlar vests and helmuts. Also put your boat bumpers out and hang thick coats on the bow and big motor. Yeeehaaaw

These tips work well for Drano Lake also.

Should I bring the social shotgun?

DF, you can leave the social shotgun home now that RT and Stew are not coming!

Stew, you should have deleted your post "something came up" before your partner made you look like an idiot by telling us that you guys chose a hot spot over fishing with us! I see how it is now!

RT your first paragraph is a load of crap! For your information this group is going to fish for the pure enjoyment of it! You sure have had a way with turning all this competition...smack crap around on everyone else! Who's soul were you soothing with those tips...yours or ours.

FJ...out.

No FJ you don't see how it is! You should email me before you accuse me of wrong doing.Just trying to avoid controversy is all. Both (Giz and RT) participants are friends and I'm sorry to see them at each other over something that supposed to be fun.Let's all chill out a little and get back to enjoying each others company.

FJ, sorry you took it personally; it was nothing at all about who is coming to the Wind mini-flotilla. And it was not Stew who decided to wait out flotilla controversies for awhile, it was me. He is not an idiot, and perhaps you owe him an appology? As for me, you may have missed what caused this? It was a flotilla damaging thread by Gizmo (in which he deleted some of his posts after it didn't go his way - then it all got deleted); and other off board things you aren't privy too as well. You and the other guys are fun to socialize with. It's the other ensuing crap that I've tired of. I helped create the competitive atmosphere with fun intended trash talk. I am now trying to help tone it down, because it's gone too far in many people's opinions. btw, my tips for Wind/Drano were put up for the same reason I have always put them up - to help less experienced fishers learn!

Hope you all well out there Thursday.

RT

RT;
As always I appreciate your tips. (and your smack, too :p ) I sincerly enjoyed F4 and meeting those I did.

The tide flows in, the tide flows out, much like the crap here and there. I hope for a return to civility once again.

Too much drama.....
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sounds like a soap opera.....is RT really pregnant with Gizmo's unborn springer?
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Stay tuned...

Stew, for the record...I did not call you an idiot and if that's how you took it then for that I apologize. I merely stated that your partner RT made you out to look like one. RT should have left the explanation for not showing where you left it on your post. In my mind for that HE owes you an apology also!

RT, during all of your trash talking and that of others before the "self pre-formatted" Flotilla smack threads it looked like a train wreck in the making. For that reason I declined to involve myself with it. To be quite honest with you I stopped reading your thread just after it stopped pertaining to me...think it rude but hey I come here for the fishing and the camaraderie...not to hear a bunch of folks trying to tear each other down. Bragging rights is one thing when all is said and done...but turning a pre planned fun event into some kind of three ringed circus in my eye kind of puts a taint on the whole reason for coordinating such an event. F4 was a great event...I got a chance to meet a whole lot of nice folks...you and Stew included! Tommorrow I will meet a few more of the guys and am looking forward to it. I have solace in knowing that the fellas in the 4 boats that are going will come away from this knowing a few more of the guys that share the same passion for fishing as they do. Sure we all know that one of us will earn bragging rights for they day...yet we will all accept it as part of the fun.

RT,Stew we have had some great dialog over the last few months and I would like to maintain it as such. My posts where not meant to inflame you...I just felt like I was calling a spade a spade...which seems to be the status quo.

Oh...did I say that it's to bad you two can't make it? :p

See you both on the next one...no hard feelings!

FJ...out.

Wiser <------- staying out of this [Bleeeeep!]. Just want to fish and meet a few others who enjoy the same thing. If it was just about catching fish I wouldn't make long range plans at all. Unless the weather craps out and/or all chances of catching a fish diasappears, I'll follow up on my declaration to participate.
Hope to remain friends with all I've met and gain new friends along the way.

For those that catch this...RR is going to BBQ some german sausages for all. He would like everyone to try to bring something to go along with it. Or if you have something to throw on the grill that's OK to!

Stew, are you going to stay mad at me?

FJ...out.

I'm just going to fish so I can tear one of those damned "V's" off of my boat. (And to have some good food in good company, nothing more, nothing less.)

Never was mad in the first place FJ.

looks like 13 people in 4 boats, just a reminder we want to start fishin about 5:45 a.m.
I'll be in the water at 5:00 or before, look for me in a 21' Alumaweld super vee (open boat) burgandy and silver, and am pullin it with a burgandy ford ext. cab truck with a canopy.
and as in FJ's post I'll BBQ german sausage for everyone in our group. Bring something to go with it if you want. see you if the a.m. Bob

For the record, I did not delete any threads last night or this morning. In fact, I was unaware I could even do this.

Wish you all well at the event. Got some unfortunate news about a good friend and fishing partner. So I will be spending time with him and hopes he beats a life threatening battle with luekemia.

I apologize to any and all who had to endure what has been an unfortunate series of posts.

Giz..