#163454 - 10/29/02 08:49 AM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 09/28/00
Posts: 238
Loc: Kapowsin, Wa
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Good post Steelheader69. I agree with you. My first chum was a 17lb buck out of the Nisqually. At the time it was the scariest fish I'd ever seen. Huge teeth, tiger stripes, and fighting like mad. I was going to throw it back, but my buddy told me that it was a good fish for the smoker. Maybe it was luck or maybe I can smoke fish pretty good, but this fish was excellent! Everyone that had some gobbled it right up. As for on the BBQ, I have only done that once with a store bought fish. Turned out pretty good. That was before I learned to fish and tried Kings and Silvers on the BBQ.
Bottom line- Stick 'em in the smoker or put 'em back in the water.
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#163455 - 10/29/02 03:39 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 275
Loc: Bellevue
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I have to pretty much agree with Steelheader69, be selective with regards to firmness not color. Smoking tends to be better than bar-b-que. Although, throw enough spices at it and anything is o.k. on the bar-b-que. BTW - I find this a great fish to give to those friends that are always hounding you about getting them salmon. It is also a great fishery for young kids. Kind of like when you fished for crappie or perch with em but a lot bigger! Makes them smile all winter.
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#163457 - 10/29/02 05:22 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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This is a classic case of some folks confusing their opinions with fact.
Fact - some folks don't care for chums - some do.
Opinion - Chums are no good.
Fact- If you get firm fleshed chums that a have good pink/orange color the taste is very acceptable to many folks.
I know a lodge owner in B.C. who obviously can have any salmon he wants. His favorite is chums. I find that in some river systems the chums come in dark and mushy. In others they come in bright and firm. I have enjoyed many shore lunches on the Alagnak River where fresh chum was the main course.
Fact: Almost every chum I ever saw caught at Hoodsport was black, slimy and soft. I shudder to think about the black, slimy,hens with eggs dripping out of them hauled off to sit in a car trunk all day, so the proud fishermen could take them home to smoke. If they aren't prime fish somking them wont help much. Thats my opinion!
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#163458 - 10/29/02 05:22 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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This is a classic case of some folks confusing their opinions with facts.
Fact - some folks don't care for chums - some do.
Opinion - Chums are no good.
Fact- If you get firm fleshed chums that a have good pink/orange color the taste is very acceptable to many folks.
I know a lodge owner in B.C., who obviously can have any salmon he wants. His favorite is chums. I find that in some river systems the chums come in dark and mushy. In others they come in bright and firm. I have enjoyed many shore lunches on the Alagnak River where fresh chum was the main course.
Fact: Almost every chum I ever saw caught at Hoodsport was black, slimy and soft. I shudder to think about the black, slimy,hens with eggs dripping out of them, hauled off to sit in a car trunk all day, so the proud fishermen could take them home to smoke. If they aren't prime fish smoking them wont help much. Thats my opinion!
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#163460 - 10/29/02 10:54 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 379
Loc: BELLINGHAM / EVERSON
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After eating Fraser River Sockeye, everything else is...ok? Chums are very high in oil. That's why some like to smoke them, I do, It's hard to over smoke them. If brined right and the fish still has some good shine to it, they will smoke just fine with Alder chips. The "BEST" way to tell if it's too old? Shake it, If the meat falls off, it's too old
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#163461 - 10/30/02 11:24 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2685
Loc: Yelmish
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chum are great smoked, one of my favorites
they're not bad bbq'ed if they're bright and have red meat though
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#163464 - 11/02/02 01:02 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Fry
Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 25
Loc: Spanaway
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Hey all, A bit of history for ya'll. Chum salmon was the preferred fish for pre-contact Coast Salish Indians(the ones from here). Other salmon were eaten fresh or perserved for special occasians(Potlatches,Winter Ceramonies). Chum meat dried readily and lasted longer through the winter. The oils from Smelt were mixed,as well as dried berries(Pemmican) to prevent them from gagging on the dry meat as well as prevent from plugging up thier poopers. Statistically, this "smelt oil" was the most important of thier food resources, not salmon. Larry
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#163465 - 11/02/02 01:38 PM
Re: Are chum really THAT bad?
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Spawner
Registered: 05/09/00
Posts: 915
Loc: Osprey Acres /Olympja
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Over the Years I landed hundreds of Chums,they are pound for pound one of the hardest fighters. For the smoker they are tops IMHO...........Os
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