just seen on the news that a 20 ftr was chomping a guys flasher and behind his boat at point defiance.

I saw that too - a red hotspot. That is interesting, I never stopped to think I was trolling and catching the attention of killer whales. I have had sealions demolish salmon I have hooked, but not killer whales.

So, was it a Killer Whale (Orca) or a Great white shark....?? Bit of difference between the two..

You would think that if a great white shark was in these waters that it would be great news. Well I searched thru two news papers this morning and not a blip. Is this another fish story being cooked up?

Must be a relative of the little sweetey we sent back to Canada,(gene pool)

Puget Sound Orcas have more sense!

Herm

Just how do you people get a killer whale out of a great white. rockfish is talking about a great white SHARK not killer whales. This has to be the makings of a great fish story. As these waters are just about to cold for one of those man eaters.

no it was a great white, it was on king 5, at point d. I.ve been checking up and part of there range is along the coast here. the fisherman said it was about 20 ft long. they say there not to common in inland waters around here because the presense of killer whales, but they are here one time or another. call point defiance boat house I guess.

This is a true story guys. The guy this happened to is a very respected fisherman in the Pt. Defiance area. The flasher that this shark hit is on display down at Narrows Marina. It's pretty cool to see this. According to Fisheries, Great Whites have been seen in Puget Sound waters before although it's very rare. I didn't believe it myself until I talked to him about it. Jack

according to: http://www.aqua.org/animals/species/whitshark.html the largest great white on record was 21 feet long, so it would be major news if one that big was actually seen in puget sound.

by the way guys, what about Ray Wallace who died last week? i saw some of his bigfoot castings in a store down near mount st helens a few years ago, everyone though that was pretty cool too back when bigfoot was in vouge.

Maybe we'll see a few more with the seal population is booming...

Downriggin'

Ok,I just have to ask this question. When was this thing spotted? This year or last year or 100 years ago. As I went to the King web site and did a search and nothing came up. Or is this thing like a 1985 Henway.

Whats the regs on great whites?

I may need to upgrade my rods and reels to go after a 20 footer....Hmm, what loomis model would be adequate for that....

maybe they want to keep it quiet and let it pass thru. my fishin buddy is a butcher at farmer george in port orchard, pig blood galore. gettin some crazy ideas about takin the boat out and chumming it and hopefully seeing it and filming it tomorrow. but it happened yesterday I believe. I got a good bet where you could chum it up down there.

I'm not sure. On the east coast, they swim all the way up to Maine quite frequently. I would imagine the water there is about the same temperature.

i have never heard of a great white in these waters. hopefully it will ignore salmon and get seals.

Has anyone found anything out about this?

I find nothing at all, which leads me to call BS, but I have been wrong before. (Just don't tell anyone I admitted that.)

20 footer huh... If I had to put my guess on a 20 ft shark in the Sound I'd have to go with a 6-gill, which has had a historical presence in the Sound and is still fairly frequently encountered by divers at locations such as Seacrest in W. Seattle.

But Great Whites supposedly make it up here on occasion...

... or maybe it was a really big dogfish

i remenber years ago a gill netter caught a great white in grays harbor. do not remenber any details i think it went to the u of dub

I saw the story on K5 last night, guy seemed pretty convinced it was a white shark. 20 ft. seems like a bit of a stretch though.
Old man, great whites have been caught in commercial nets in Ak. so I don't think PS water is to cold for them.

Probably was a salmon shark, probably was half that size - still way big. Either Bob or AK Kings had a story about salmon sharks in Alaska last year that he related to us. I've seen these puppies myself - twin to a GW, just more brownish tinge to them. They are much more common than GWs, and would be more likely cruising around looking for salmon and nailing a hotspot. <img border="0" alt="[eat]" title="" src="graemlins/eat.gif" />

It's true, I just got a picture of it. Army, Navy and the Marines were there. Will somebody post it from the bulleton board storage. I can't get it to work.

thanks,

fp

Is this the one fp??

Horrible band.

Salmon Shark is the closest relative to the great white but about half the size on average. I have seen an 11 footer in Bristol Bay before. Put both side by side and you'd have a tough time distinguishing between the two.

Click here for more info on the Salmon shark - Lamna ditropis

Hopefully it will come upstream because I have a pink worm with it's name on it.

Why would anybody doubt this guy? It is perfectly possible- that great white caught in Grays Harbor is hanging in the Seattle Aquarium. I always wondered how long it would take for nature to account for an over abundance of pinipeds in Puget Sound.
The idea of sharing the water with a giant predator is exciting. Lets make seal cut outs from astro turf and troll them around like they do on National Geographic. We will have to add a titanium leader and a big 'ol Mustad though!

Maybe it escaped from the Point defiance aquarium

How do you Cut Plug a Sea Lion?
What Size hooks should I use?

Cut Plug a Sea Lion?
LOL .... that is a good one

Yeah, how long a sea lion leader do you use behind a Hotspot Downriggin'

Over the years I've had calls about great whites about once every year or two. Usually they are caught by commercial fishermen off the coast. Can't recall any that came from inland waters. I've never seen a 20 footer though! Most are about 4-5 feet.

With all the boats being out this weekend at the derby maybe one of us will incounter this shark.

I have one question to ask to the other posts, how deep and how fast would you troll with a cut plug sea lion.

Fish On,

ErnDog

AK Kings

I can back your comment. I was in Sitka three years ago and our capt show me a picture of a great white caught on a commercial line. It was about 11 feet. Saw the beach it was brought up on.

The guy that had this encounter is Bob S. I have fished with him before when he was the curator for the Point Defiance Aquarium. He retired in the 80's after 25+ years there. Trust me he knows the difference between a Salmon Shark and a Great White.

one word: chainsaw!!!

Spawn,

For a 20 footer... 48".. Saw the Hotspot and talked with Bob.... one word- WOW!

For those still in doubt, he retired as a biologist after 36 years for the PD aquarium. He knows what he saw.... It is a little hard to absorb huh? I have seen similiar things off San Francisco salmon fishing... It is probably in feeding on seals.

Downriggin'

Still not gonna go with that 6 foot leader even for trash fish, huh DR?

I took a look at that flasher also - not only chewed on but a chunk taken out of it

Salmon sharks and great whites look an awful lot alike unless you get a good look at the tail, but Bob sounds like the one person in the area that would be most qualified to tell what it was. Still, it seems that a flasher would be more attractive to a salmon eater than a marine mammal eater, but something like this is so unheard of that who knows?

I bet most of us who have spent time fishing the saltchuck have a story about hooking something completely unstoppable - had it happen myself at PD back in the 60's while playing out a small fish I hooked while motor mooching. This was not a seal or sea lion either - those have to come up for air - this fish headed straight for the bottom, then went due north and never slowed down or turned even after chasing it for an hour up Colvos Passage halfway to Seattle. I always thought it was some kind of shark or maybe even a mondo halibut, but I wonder now if I hooked this baby's daddy

We were jigging for bottom fish off the coast up in Canada one time. We had a halibut rod and were jigging a 12oz leadhead jig with a 13 inch worm on it. Something came up and bit the worm in half leaving a good sized, triangular tooth mark in the rubber.

we hooked in to something with a whole herring on the bottom out in front of the edmonds fairy docks. took about 250 feet off a penn 409 before we began to chase it, went through browns bay almost to shipwreck, was on the bottom most of the time even though the 500 foot holes in browns bay. figured it was a huge skate or something. finally broke the swivel attaching the steel leader. never seen anything like it.