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#170904 - 01/04/06 03:18 PM Re: Pornography
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Originally posted by Napoleon:
Men/boys who are sexualized by porn are or were typically incapable of forming a normal sexual relationship with a female in their teenage years. Some were forced becaue of their looks or socical status. They continue this into adulthood. After marriage they are emotionally incapable of dealing with thier desires with their spouse so ...
... they are forced into a never-ending regimen of marital counseling with a mental-health care professional?
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#170905 - 01/04/06 04:45 PM Re: Pornography
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"they are forced into a never-ending regimen of marital counseling with a mental-health care professional?"

The smart ones choose a healthy life in all aspects physical mental spiritual. The type here are barely able to hide the bitterness they find from the little they see that life has to offer them.
The broken relationships the spitual bancruptcy that drives their glass half full view of the world. Thats ok however because the guy right next to them validates their views so they feel safe with the flock. They have simialr homes, cars and clothes a big TV so their is safetly in likeness. Its those long cold dark nights when age or misfortune set in that really shows you what they are made of. You can learn your lessons by choice or you can wait for life to teach them to you it is all about choice. One by one the persistance of time will show you what you do not know and are afraid to find out.
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#170907 - 01/04/06 05:38 PM Re: Pornography
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Wow, what a defeatist. Someone needs some counseling time... with a hug. Time to put on your big-girl panties and get over it.

But Napoleon's right about one thing; I do view my glass as half full -- and rising. Unlike his own pessimistic attitude about not fitting into society, getting old, and making bad decisions; something he must feel guilty about. No one else seems to be as obsessed with it.

Poor disgruntled old man. frown
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#170909 - 01/04/06 06:02 PM Re: Pornography
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Gh your glass is only half full because your wife has her balls in it.

Bondoboy,
Maybe you can tell this leader you imagine where to get the kind of kool aid that gives you big ol stained yellow corn teeth so we can all go out looking like you? Now go fill another dent , Bondoboy!
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#170910 - 01/04/06 06:22 PM Re: Pornography
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Oooow, that hurt. rofl

But since you mention my wife, considering she devoted her life to the defense of this nation she obviously has more proverbial sack than you'll ever have.

Go get some counseling, curmudgeon.
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#170912 - 01/11/06 12:57 PM Re: Pornography
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I posed TK's statement to women in the adult entertainment industry. Pretty much as I thought. As usual, he's full of sh$t.

http://boards.xbiz.com/showthread.php3?s...0824#post260824

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#170913 - 01/11/06 01:32 PM Re: Pornography
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Yep thats conclusive.

This is from your friends at the ACLU.


Q: Pornography is the fault of the women who pose for it. Why don't they just stop posing?
A: The women in pornography are most often victims of child sexual abuse. Some studies show that 65 to 75 percent of the current population of women in prostitution and pornography (overlapping experiences for the same pool of women) have been abused as children, usually in the home. People who work with women who are in pornography and prostitution to provide social services or counseling, some of whom have been in pornography or prostitution themselves, believe the percentage is much, much higher. Children run away from home, from the sexual abuse, to cities where they are picked up by pimps, raped, beaten, drugged, and forced into prostitution or pornography.

Women in pornography are poor women, usually uneducated. Pornography exists in a society in which women are economically disadvantaged. The only professions in which women make more money than men are modeling and prostitution-and in prostitution, the pimps keep most if not all of it. Women's economic value is determined largely by sexual value: how much the woman's body is worth in the marketplace as a commodity.

Many women are forced into pornography as children by fathers who sexually abuse them; pornography is made of them as part of the sexual abuse they experience as children. Many women are forced into pornography by husbands, many of whom are violent (battery of married women being the most commonly committed violent crime in the country). Many women are photographed by lovers and find the photographs published as pornography in revenge or retaliation. Aspiring actresses and models are photographed nude, almost a trade practice, and find the photographs published against their will and without their knowledge in pornography.

When a woman has been forced into pornography, the pornography itself is used to keep her in a life of sexual exploitation and abuse. Think of what happens when a battered wife asks for help. She is doing what society says women should do: she is married, and the sustained battery is proof that she has been loyal to her husband, she has stayed with him, the way women are supposed to. She may be badly hurt over a period of years. When she leaves home, she is often treated as a pariah, told the brutality is her own fault. Now think of the woman forced into prostitution. She is without the so-called protections of a respectable life. She has been abandoned, if not injured in the first place, by her family. Society has no place for her and despises her for what she has been doing. The photographs of her engaging in violating sex acts-violating of her-usually show her smiling, as if she enjoyed being used or hurt. Where can she turn? Where can she run? Who will believe her? Who will help her? Will you? (If you won't, don't assume anyone else will.)

The pimp or pornographer will come after her. If he is her husband or her father, he will have a legal right to her. He will be violent toward her and toward anyone who tries to help her. She will be terribly hurt from the life she has been leading: she will be injured from the pornography and prostitution; she may be addicted to many drugs; she will be filled with anger and self-hate and despair.

Battered women's shelters, of which there are not enough, many of which are understaffed, will probably not offer her shelter. They are afraid of the pimps and they are afraid of the host of antisocial behaviors that the woman herself may demonstrate. Rape crisis centers do not have resources to offer shelter at all but they are also not prepared to counsel prostitutes, even though most have been raped many times and suffer the trauma of multiple rape.

The women in pornography are the first victims of pornography. The pornographers, not the women they hurt, are responsible for pornography. The men who buy and use the pornography are responsible for pornography, not the women who are violated to make the product they so enjoy. And the society that protects the pornography is responsible for pornography: the courts that value the so-called rights of the pornographers over the humanity, the dignity, the civil equality of women; the publishers and writers who keep protecting the trafficking in women as if the commercial violation of women were a basic right of publishing; the lawyers, the politicians, the media, who congregate to chant self-righteous litanies in worship of the Constitution while women are raped for fun and profit under its protection.
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#170915 - 01/11/06 01:45 PM Re: Pornography
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Women in pornography are poor women, usually uneducated
Yup, I feel real sorry for Jenna Jamison who is a millionaire by the way.

Women in todays porn rule the industry. Does this article have a date?
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#170916 - 01/11/06 01:46 PM Re: Pornography
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I'll throw the ACLU crap up on the xbiz thread and see what happens?

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#170917 - 01/11/06 01:49 PM Re: Pornography
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Hey there is a guy on this board who had been in the porn industry. Can't remember who he was, wish he would chime in.
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#170918 - 01/11/06 01:53 PM Re: Pornography
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SOl,

There are literraly 1000's of studies available along those lines. When you look at porn on a world wide basis it gets even worse. Slavery and child abuse show that females are nothing more than cattle to the maoney men in the business.
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#170919 - 01/11/06 01:57 PM Re: Pornography
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Slavery and child abuse show that females are nothing more than cattle to the maoney men in the business.
TK
This statement probably has a lot of merit as long as we are not talking within the US. Once you step outside the US this statement is correct.
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#170921 - 01/11/06 02:00 PM Re: Pornography
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Like I said before, I think there is "some truth" to your premise, but to say "most" women is rediculous. I think the ACLU's percentage is extreamly high as well. Wouldn't be the first time those comunists were way out in left field.

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#170922 - 01/11/06 03:13 PM Re: Pornography
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SOL,

Same goes for the reasons you use porn. Most men will say they enjoy looking at women. Whats lacking with their wives or gf's that they have to look at anonymous women? Better yet whats lacking or broken in them that they have this need. Usually something that keeps them from communicating their needs wants or desires in thier relationships or setting up healthy relationships in the first place. Fat people do not enjoy looking at pictures of food they want to eat it. They don't go to grocery stores with their buddies on Sat night drunk and hungry and just look at food and go home hungry. Much like men do with strip clubs. Same with drug and booze addicts most will tell you they started doing drugs because they liked them( just as your porn industry people will tell you) They are unable to address what is inside them that leads them to self destructive behavior. Happy fullfilled people do not have a need to get wasted out of thier mind for entertainment. They generally do not do it alone because they want to know that other people are just like them.
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#170923 - 01/11/06 04:22 PM Re: Pornography
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You crack me up, dude. Men watch porn because they are breeders. It's bread into us through thousands of years of evolution. This monogomy crap is something that has come about relatively recently in the scope of human presence on earth. We wern't ment to be faithfull to one woman, but the modern day institution of marrage has seen to it because it's the accepted norm. So instead of nailing every chick we come across we live vicariously though visual imagery. I don't care if your married to the hottest chick in the world and she blows you twice a day, your going to look at other hot chicks because THATS WHAT MEN DO!

I think you've been pussified by to much counceling, and you spout this BS to convince yourself it's right. You're a mess. I'd be willing to bet if Jenna Jameson stuffed her muff in your face you'd lick it, and if she squated on your wong you'd blow like Mt. St. Helens, because you're a man deep down. Don't be such a woman.

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#170925 - 01/11/06 04:33 PM Re: Pornography
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Sol,

So you are married for what reason? I take it your wife is ok with you nailing other women and you conversely are ok with her nailing other guys? and you are raising your kids by the same values. Man is also a carnivore why don't we hunt and kill each other and fire up the BBQ? Plenty of evidence to suggest that that happened in the past with regularity.


AM in her quest to starp one on and act like a man leads me to believe that had she stayed in the oven one more day she would be a dyke known as Marshall. Sporting a mullet, wearing a plaid shirt and Carhart jeans with a big wallet tethered to a chain hanging from a belt loop. She would be prowling the bars of capitol hill looking for short haired fat girls known as ditch diggers.
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#170927 - 01/11/06 04:40 PM Re: Pornography
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It could just be BS but somehow I got the idea that "Johns" were little dick guys who couldn't make the grade with desirable women. Is that wrong?
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#170928 - 01/11/06 04:43 PM Re: Pornography
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You're a danger to society and yourself, dude. First of all I'm faithfull to my wife and visa versa. Did you miss the part about living vicariously through imagery? We are raising our kids with the modern day values of monogomy, and when they are old enough I will explain to them the same thing I've comunicated here so they don't get mentally fuc%ed-up when they grow up and see their respective mates musing photos of nude women.

Your carnivore analogy is as whacked as you are.

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#170929 - 01/11/06 04:51 PM Re: Pornography
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Sol,

You call monogomy crap but thats how you raise your kids and the life you live. You are just justifying your behavior re: porn . I am willing to bet your wife has little to no idea of the extent of your porn passion.
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#170930 - 01/11/06 04:59 PM Re: Pornography
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>You call monogomy crap but thats how you raise your kids and the life you live.

I pay taxes, too, but that doen't mean I don't think it's crap. It's the price of living in today's society.

>I am willing to bet your wife has little to no idea of the extent of your porn passion.

You couldn't be more wrong, as usual. She knows where all my material is at and I am open with her about it.

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