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#171982 - 01/19/06 01:35 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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4Salt. it was a jab at vinny. He made a grandiose claim that OBL was dead about a year ago. He linked a bunch of conspiracy theory sites as proof.
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#171984 - 01/19/06 02:21 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Then OBL made that little video just before Kerry lost to Bush. We discussed this all before when Vinny made his post. The toxins in the smokes are stopping your last two brain cells from rubbing together.
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#171986 - 01/19/06 02:45 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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It could be that TK's strong attraction to Dumbya is based a common pathology.

On the other hand, it could be just the chimp thing.
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#171987 - 01/19/06 03:04 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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We are scratching the bottom guys.
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#171989 - 01/19/06 03:12 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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I thought the red line was Dumbya approval rating.
Oh yeah , lets stop the volcanoes. tk has a plan. Lets all follow tk to the top of the nearest volcano. Then we put a cork in it. Right tk?
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#171990 - 01/19/06 04:02 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Lefty don't like it when his pink underbelly is exposed. Kinda like when a fish hits the beach it really starts flopping around. The left has no plan it is just like highschool for them. Biotch that it's mom and dads fault while at home. Its the schools fault when at school. Then when they turn 18 it's the governments fault. They need someone to blame.
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#171992 - 01/19/06 04:55 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Amazing how much of this stuff Dr. Aunty is posting about the behavior of people with NPD fits Prince George. The lying, the tempter tantrums, the grandiosity, the lack of empathy for others.

There is a rule of court etiquette in England that the Queen is not addressed first. One only speaks to the Queen in reply to her speaking to one. Damned if Georgie hasn't adopted this as a rule of conduct for the White House!
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#171993 - 01/19/06 06:52 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Since pollution is not in the top 15 on your list lets stop all efforts to protect and clean the environment.
Neocons still have yet to admit to themselves that pollution contributes to lung disease and cancer. Those two causes of death add up to 27% of the death rate.
Ask the miners in Libby Montana if asbestos is good for your health. Heck TK I'd invite you to spend a weekend in the old vermiculite mine if your so sure about yourself.
As for the OBL tapes, TK your the one who waffled on that one. I still think he's dead. And I dont think we're getting the truth on the recent missile attack in Pakistan. I think someone in the NSA or White House changed their minds about releasing information to the public. It doesn't make sense that if there was nothing left but tissue samples they so quickly changed their minds on whether Ayman al-Zawahri was dead or not.
And of course no high ranking cabinet officials made the proclamation that the audio tape was real...once again released to the news wire
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The CIA confirmed Thursday...
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Is it really in OBL's reportoire to offer a truce with the US if we guarantee the safety of Muslim ccountries? That doesn't sound like the typical OBL BS from the 1990's. The audio tape is faked.

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#171994 - 01/19/06 06:55 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Here it is reposted in case you missed it. I know its one of TK's favs.


My very own conspiracy theory. Figured 5am was as good a time as any to share it on the web.

I'll start with the theory itself:

OBL was killed during the battle of Tora Bora in Dec of 2001. I'll give a date 12/16/2001.

Now the motives for keeping it secret:

1. GW benefits from the public believing the bogeyman is still out there. If bad folk is still alive then public gives him free reign to 'protect us'.

2. Al Queda benefits by having a leader who has challenged the Great Satan and walked away alive.


Facts supporting conclusion that OBL is Dead.


1. No credible video since end of Nov 2001. Any video that has surfaced either are obvious imposters, or not so obvious. Either way, video has been scarce since Dec 2001. Google up OBL video and you'll find some great webpages doing comparisons between known OBL pics and the latest videos. Even if the last one was a good fake, some of the authenticated tapes are completely obviously NOT OBL. Why would they pass them off as being real?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

2. Audio tapes have been authenticated by "US intelligence officals", but never by anyone willing to give thier name for the record. Google it up. Its always "officials". Someday the truth will come out and Rummy, Dummy, and Cheney will all be able to say "Well I never said he was alive". One of those "authenticated" audio tapes was independently studied by an independant Swiss reserch group, they gave a statement they were 100% sure it was NOT OBL. And never a counterstatement from the White House. Case dropped.

http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/binladen/after-death/support-iraq-tape-feb03/swiss-wont-verify.txt

3. Rummy was specifically asked 2 years ago at a news conference "Is OBL dead or alive?" His answer was a wise ass "Yes". He refused to give anything more then that.

4. Since Dec 2001 Bush has mysteriously lost personal interest in finding OBL.

5. Bush keeps a list of the most wanted terrorists in the top drawer of his desk in the Oval office. He mentioned the list during a 20/20 interview. He said he couldn't show who on it was captured or dead, but did say he marked them off his list as they were 'taken care of'. Now I remember them bragging about every high level capture or kill they have made except for 2, OBL and that Jackas Taliban Mullah Omar.

6. Shortly after Tora Bora a report on NPR was done on how the military has tissue samples from several of OBL's family. Those samples were being kept at the base on the East Coast where they process military remains. Evidently samples from Tora Bora were going to be analyzed against those tissue samples from OBL's family. Why the hell would they be doing that? Never any follow up reports. Believe me I looked, this is the story that got me thinking.

7. Several reports have gone out from different sources over 'power struggles' within Al Queda. Why would thier be a power struggle if OBL was alive?

8. (this is the only non-public/non-verifiable info I am going to give) Early summer I get an email from someone I'd been exchanging correspondence with for a couple years. He is involved with operations in Afghanistan. Thats all you get I dont need him buried in some hole in Turkey. He tells me that morale among troops in afghanistan is falling. They have killed anybody important, and the little guys are dead or humping goats in Pakistan. They get sent around the countryside on pointless missions since December. 90% of the 'company' guys are gone too. Why the sudden change in only 3-4 months?


9. Tora Bora was not some huge screw up. Multiple reports were made that hundreds of American special forces troops had surrounded the area known to be the last hidout of OBL. B 52's were turning the hills into parking lots. He farted and Spec Ops were analyzing what he had for lunch.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/16/wtora16.xml

I can get other links as requested. The truth is out there.


Vince

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#171995 - 01/19/06 06:59 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Vinny,
You should give up the bed pans and hit the research lab. Lets see your peer reviewed and published findings on pollution, lung disease and cancer. Whats that it coming out of your arse as we speak.

Islam requires the dead to be buried by sundown. How popular would it be ragheadville to send in the spooks to dig up the graves for a positive ID?

"The audio tape is faked"

Is that with an Irish accent?
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#171997 - 01/19/06 07:53 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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I think your diagnosis is right on target AuntyM.

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Islam requires the dead to be buried by sundown. How popular would it be ragheadville to send in the spooks to dig up the graves for a positive ID?
It was reported that we had resources on the ground in Pakistan who were at the site collecting tissue samples. I actually read and listen to more then just Fox news, and Bill The Stalker O'Reilly.


I just finished writing NPR and will write a few other news organizations including the BBC. Since when do news organizations take CIA news releases as the final and only word on something? Especially something that can be independently verified. Why not just have the White House write the AP wire stories?
What the hell do they teach in journalism school these days?

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#171998 - 01/20/06 01:37 AM Re: I'm Curious...
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Well, allegedly Napoleon was given (notice the verb) a degree in journalism from the very same instituion as Edward R. Murrow. I'm sure you see his ability to convey thoughts in proper context.
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#171999 - 01/20/06 09:30 AM Re: I'm Curious...
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Who goes by Napoleon? Someone here has a degree in journalism.

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#172000 - 01/20/06 11:14 AM Re: I'm Curious...
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Harley and vinny are jealous. Harley got is degree in mess hall with a minor in KP. Even then he had to lick officers boots to get promoted. He is now retired and is a secretary for one of those officers. Sets up conference calls ,gets coffee etc. Vinny got his in bed pans and arse wiping from some JC. He will talk about going to school to get a degree for the rest of his life and never do it. Kneepads and mouth wash suit him just fine. I never once claimed to have a degree in journalism. I was required to take journalism classes for my degree.
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#172001 - 01/20/06 11:26 AM Re: I'm Curious...
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And you got yours with a silver spoon in your mouth, what is your point?

What? you don't have one, I'm shocked!

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#172002 - 01/20/06 11:39 AM Re: I'm Curious...
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Wacky,

I unlike your friends believe in paying my own way and taking responsibility for my actions. I paid for my own education and I am the first and only college grad in my family.
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#172003 - 01/20/06 12:07 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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My bad the silver spoon was up your ass!

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#172004 - 01/20/06 12:10 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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"first and only college grad in my family"

So much for evolution.

"silver spoon was up your ass!"

He pulls a lot of stuff out of there doesn't he? It's like a big storage unit.
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#172005 - 01/20/06 12:43 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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Nothing makes lefty more outraged than the truth.
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#172006 - 01/20/06 04:15 PM Re: I'm Curious...
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I've met some pretty dumb college grads over the years, but if KT is a grad, I guess that's a new low for college graduation.

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