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#172134 - 01/24/06 04:02 PM Re: Playing Hardball
stever in everett Offline
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Here you go tk. Bush passing himself as the Lord.

The Antichrist is the greatest deceiver of all time. The Bible indicates that the he will pretend to be religious - in fact he will ultimately pretend to be God, and will be worshipped as God half way through the Apocalypse. More than any other president Bush wears his religion on his sleeve for political gain, and to deceive the world. He believes he's been appointed by God (rather than the Supreme Court), and sees himself as on a divine mission. Let's face it - that's only a short drive from believing he's actually divine. Bush recently told an Amish group in Pennsylvania that "God speaks through me." Another story that ran in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz tells how Bush had told Middle East leaders that " God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam [ Hussein], which I did” First of all, what is interesting about these voices Bush is hearing, voices which are effectively telling him to go kill people, is that Jesus consistently taught his disciples to overcome evil with good rather than with bombs and bullets and violence.

It is eminently reasonable to assume that the voices Bush is hearing are not coming from God at all, but from Satan. It is also reasonable to assume that the devil does not desire peace, but war and death and destruction. Why is it that when an ordinary citizen hears voices telling him to kill people, we lock him up for the safety of both himself and the community; yet when Bush hears voices telling him to kill, fundamentalists rejoice and pretend he was chosen by God to be president?

The respected Washington-based News Magazine “Capital Hill Blues” reports that bad news from Iraq and falling poll numbers have already pushed Bush to the edge of a mental collapse:

“Worried White House aides paint a portrait of a man on the edge, increasingly wary of those who disagree with him and paranoid of a public that no longer trusts his policies in Iraq or at home. It reminds me of the Nixon days,” says a longtime GOP political consultant with contacts in the White House. “Everybody is an enemy; everybody is out to get him. That’s the mood over there.” In interviews with a number of White House staffers who were willing to talk off the record, a picture of an administration under siege has emerged, led by a man who declares his decisions to be doing “God’s will” and then tells aides to “**** over” anyone they consider to be an opponent of the administration."

In another under-reported story, a very prominent Washington psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank has diagnosed Bush as a paranoid and sadistic megalomanic. In his new book, Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President, he writes that Bush's years of heavy drinking "may have affected his brain function" and he "fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated." His diagnosis? "Our sole treatment option -- for his benefit and for ours -- is to remove President Bush from office . . . before it is too late." Unfortunately, that is no longer an option. Dr. Frank's conclusions have been praised by other prominent psychiatrists, including Dr. James Grotstein, Professor at UCLA Medical Center, and Dr. Irvin Yalom, MD, Professor Emeritus at Stanford University Medical School.

Unfortunately, Bush already seems to have fooled a lot of people into believing he really is God. One man in Florida recently said, "this is the first time I felt God was in the White House." There is even a website dedicated to his worship called "BUSH IS LORD". How's that for an abomination?!
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#172135 - 01/24/06 04:14 PM Re: Playing Hardball
Theking Offline
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Registered: 10/10/03
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Duke,

Render unto Ceaser means give the "man" what is his and god what is gods. Taxes are a good example as is follwing the law of the govt.

"I have a difficult time sitting back and watching anyone misrepresent the teachings of Christ while starting skirmishes that are seemingly for personal gain "

Do you not pass judgement on the heart of the man based on your thoughts? Who has the right to pass judgement you or God?

I seem to remember that one sin is no greater than any sin. So lets say GW is wrong and sin's should you not flog yourself equally for your sin?
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#172136 - 01/24/06 04:14 PM Re: Playing Hardball
stever in everett Offline
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Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 774
Loc: Everett, WA USA
Those who are leading sinful lives, often try to prove themselves religious by judging others and holding their own lives as superior. Yet it was precisely this kind of comparative religiosity that Jesus hated and condemned in the Pharisees. Whatever high moral standards they may set for themselves, it was always offset and covered over by the fact that they couldn’t resist the temptation to take pride in themselves by judging others. Judging the sins of others is always a kind of sanctimonious boasting, and it is always very empty boasting at that, because in judging others, we put ourselves in God’s place, taking pride either in what we have done or avoided doing. We make our righteousness our own work, rather than what God has worked in our life. We are no longer grateful, but proud.. Instead of confessing our own sins and allowing God to work more deeply in our life, we try to earn our salvation by proving how much more worthy we are than anybody else. But we are not more worthy than anybody else, and while the former produces a humble and forgiving heart, the latter method produces a proud and judgmental spirit.
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#172137 - 01/25/06 10:36 AM Re: Playing Hardball
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
It's good to pay taxes and that you think Jesus wants you to pay taxes. I think in the above passage you are missing the point, because it is not telling you to make sure your taxes are paid by the deadline.

"17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, [ye] hypocrites? "
Jesus recognized that these were men only trying to use Christ's teaching to get out of paying taxes. But Jesus does not care about money, things of the flesh are really a waste of time and irrelevant in a spiritual domain, therefore, let Ceasar have his money, after all he printed it, it has his face on it, he can have it.

Back to the point though, I think there is a possibility that this can be a fruitful conversation. How does Bush represent Christ's teachings, and not just Bush, how about Pat Robertson? How long has he been on TV as a minister? Lately, he's made a couple of pretty outlandish statements. Like the whole "maybe we should" concerning Hugo Chavez and my personal favorite, about how the New Orleans disaster was punishment, Sodom and Gamorrah style. Did Pat forget this?

"1 Pet:16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name."

Did Pat believe that everyone was so evil that God struck it down, or did he think the Christians that perished or lost in NO were collateral damage?

Really, the point of the whole thing is whether these representatives, that are internationally reknowned, truly represent the teachings of their faith. I charge that George, Pat, Osama and Al-Zahwari all have distorted the real message so that they could justify killing people. Is that judgemental, or just pointing out the obvious?

"Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell [it] unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."
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#172138 - 01/25/06 10:42 AM Re: Playing Hardball
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Loc: port ludlow
By the way, flogging does not redeem you of your sin, true repentance does.
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