breaking news.....cheney shot his hunting partner sat on a private ranch in texas with shotgun while bird hunting..........

The part I found funny was the dude had instant medical attention because Cheny's health is so poor an entire medical team follows him wherever he goes.

I have a friend who accidently shot and killed his father on a hunting trip. That was a long time ago and I am sure that he has never gotten over it.

The story I read was spinning it that it was the victim's fault. He was careless for being back behind Cheney. Since when is being 30 yards behind the gunner careless?

they tied to hide the story and it didnt make the news until more than 24 hours later and now they are trying to say that it was the other mans fault for not declaring that he was behind cheney when they knew that the man who got shot was behind them to find a bird....

ive never been bird hunting when i didnt know where my partner was and waited for him to get back in line for the flush...what an absolute DICK for spinning the story into it being his partners fault

Lupo, And that surprises you?????

I guess Cheney should have gotten hunting lessons from John Kerry. After all the fun people made of his skills, at least he never shot anyone.


I thought that he chased down an unarmed Vietnamese kid and shot him dead. Just more Rove spin I guess

The victim is described as Al Qaeda's second-in-command. See......the war IS working.

It shows that spinning the story is so ingrained with them that they do it as a matter of course.

I've hunted upland birds all my life. Any bird hunter knows that one person is responsible if a fellow hunter or ,worse, a dog is shot....the guy behind the gun.

He shot a lawyer...so what's the problem?

papaslap is right on that one

now its coming out that cheney will be re-paying texas for the stamp he didnt have on his hunting license.........the state will only issuing a warning to him

"Stampless" Dick Cheney.

I heard it wasn't just one lawyer but that they flushed a covey of lawyers.
I wonder how many others in Texas would get off with a warning?

Although Dick Cheney is near the top of my least liked list, and I am enjoying all the jokes at his expense, it does not look like he got special treatment with the warning. Evidently (and this is from the "liberal" media, so who knows?) this is a new stamp introduced 5 months ago and all that did not have it get a warning and a ticket to pay the $7 fee.

The spin meisters continue to spin that the victim was at fault, not Cheney. The ranch owner, a registered lobbiest and the victim, a prominent Republic fund raiser, are both on board. They all agree the victim was at fault because he was 30 yards behind Cheney without keeping Cheney informed of his location. Maybe he should have gone and hid behind the car!

Where's TK to put a spin on why Cheney was in the right?

A shooting accident is no big surprise, especially when you get a 65 year old and a 78 year old holding shotguns.

What I don't understand is the thrill of killing birds the size of an apple with a shotgun. Wow, what a thrill! What's next, fishing for steelhead fry with a treble barbed spinner?

TK couldn't have said it better.

Now the Lawyer has had a heart attack and is back in intensive care.

Nice try Steve, but you just don't have the hatred and illogic down pat yet. Reminded me of Nixons repeated attempts at oral sex. It seams he just never could get it down Pat. Hey, that's funny. I don't care who ya are!

Thanks, Stam. We needed that.

I thought it was interesting that Cheney's shotgun was reported as a 28 gage. I've heard of them, but never seen one. Would that be about the same size as a .410?

Snake,

". . . birds the size of an apple . . ."
I always wondered that, too. I'm told they only keep the breasts off quail, and it takes more than a pair from one bird to make a meal for one person. They must be awful good to be such a popular game bird.

Before Sol gets to this, I want to say that all breasts are good breasts. But I do know Snake really likes the bigguns.

At least Cheney carried his own gun. You lefties need to get a life. Why can't you all just move to some commie workers paradise and get a life.
A good American would never take issue with a VP, and question what he was doing, besides it was an accident.
I'd rather hunt with Dick, the have my daughter be Clinton's intern.

TK: Glad you have you back!!! Why did you change your name?

A 28 GA is smaller than a 20 GA, larger than a .410.

For dog people, how the bird can be worked with a dog is more important than the bird size. Bob White quail hold well for pointing dogs, maybe the best of all game birds.

For me the greatest bird hunting thrill has been hunting wild roosters in Eastern Washington wetlands with a good flushing Lab.

The story below explains why Mr. Whittington was in intensive care. The Republicans all agree it was Whittington's fault, stopping to pick up a bird and all.

If the situation had been reversed, Dick Cheney stopping to pick up a bird and Mr. Whittington shooting Cheney in the face and heart, would the Repub spin meisters be saying it was Cheney's
fault?


Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack Tue Feb 14, 1:31 PM ET

The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a "minor heart attack," a hospital official said Tuesday.

Peter Banko, the hospital administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial, said Harry Whittington had the heart attack early Tuesday while being evaluated.

He said there was an irregularity in the heartbeat caused by a birdshot pellet, and doctors performed a cardiac catheterization. Whittington expressed a desire to leave the hospital, but Banko said he would probably stay for another week.

Whittington, a prominent Republican attorney from Austin, was accidentally sprayed with shotgun pellets when Cheney was aiming for a quail Saturday.

Whittington had initially been placed in intensive care. He had been moved to a "step-down unit" Monday after doctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged in his skin rather than try to remove them.

A Texas Parks and Wildlife Department report said Whittington was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. "Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards," the report said.

The wildlife department issued a report Monday that found the main factor contributing to the accident was a "hunter's judgment factor." No other secondary factors were found to have played a role.

Snake, I've been holding off on replying to this Bull **** till I cooled down. If I had replied right away I would have elaborated in detail on what an ignorant ass hole you are.

Since I'm calm now, I'll merely point out that you know nothing about bird hunting and nothing about older sportsmen. When those subjects come up you would be better off to keep your mouth shut.

Hey Suck, if that was a calm response I would have loved to seen the angry one. As I said in my thread, "I don't understand the thrill of killing small birds" which means exactly what I said....I don't understand the thrill about quail hunting. I understand the thrill and sport of duck and pheasant hunting, but not quail. Maybe, it's their size or looks, but I don't get it.

The older person remark was intended as a joke, especially poking fun at my own father. Sorry you didn't get it.

But, it was definitely something you needed to call me a name for, and also to tell me to keep my mouth shut. Thanks.

I was raised in Oklahoma,hunting pheasant,bob white quail,doves,ducks,geese an prairie chickens,rabbits,squirrels an white tailed deer.
Not once in all the years of hunting,did I or one of my hunting partners ever have to pull shot out
of ourselves.

Edit:It's the shooter's duty to know what he is shooting at and where his companions are. A shooting accident is always the fault of the shooter. Always.

the cheney group wasnt hunting in my opinion...thety were just shooting.......

someone else was spoting for covy's of quail while cheney et al were sitting in the truck.....when a covey was spotted they would drive up close and get out of the truck and shoot.... if they were actually activly hunting and flushing birds i doubt this would have happened

i bet they had a bit to drink as well which would really explain why they waited till the next day to get word out......the texas police should be issuing alcohol tests any time there is a hunting accident since they average 89 fatality accidents per year in the state.....

if cheney was ted kenedy- he would have said it was the lakes fault for not declaring where it was before he drove into it killing the woman he was with at chapiquitic... -sp?

Snake, I did take your comments about older hunters seriously. Please accept my apologies for calling you an ass hole.

Lupo, there's all sorts of stuff coming out about the shooting. I wouldn't be surprised if drinking were a factor in the accident.

Of interest is that GOP lobbyist/ranch owner Armstrong was on the phone with Karl Rove the evening before she contacted the press, describing being blasted at close range with a shotgun as being "peppered" and blaming the victim.

That review suggesting Whittington was shot at less than 30 yards will be getting more publicity now that it's revealed some of the shot penetrated his heart and liver. That's a lot of travel for number 8 shot. I would have guessed number 6, but I've never hunted quail. Is number 8 the pellet of choice for quail hunting?

Salmo, Number 8 is the pellet of choice.

Your right lupo,thats called shooting not hunting.
We used to call it skillet shooting.

I hunted with 7 1/2 an 8 shot for quail an doves,
out of a 20ga.or 12ga.

Yeah Hoh Humm, it's stretching it to call that kind of canned bird shooting "hunting". The last time Cheney made the national news as a "hunter" was when he shot over 70 pen-raised pheasants during a day's "hunt" back east.

It now out that the shooting happened just at sun down, at 5:50 PM, 30 minutes later than was first claimed.

Snake, I reread your post can see how you were just making a joke. I missed it and took it seriously. It really got me going. I'm sorry I went TK on you.
SS

Sounds like you were fortunate enough to have good bird hunting when you were a kid, Hoh Humm.
Did you hunt with dog's as a kid, Hoh Humm?

Is most of the bird hunting leased down in Oklahoma now? I guess bird hunting in Texas is most all leased now.

Sucker, all's cool.

Both,sometimes I would rather walk the birds up.
Yes I had some damn good bird hunting when I was a kid,and some damn good teachers.
English pointer and a irish setter.
Bob an Frenchy

Edit: Most of the spots I hunted are'nt there any more,and alot is lease land.

There were a lot of turkeys too,bronze to the south and west,east side the big grey easterns.

dick WAS drinking before the hunt

He should have his hunting rights taken away for a while.
That is worse than driving an drinking.
A gun in the hands of a drunk is like a stick of dynamite with a white hot fuse.

Conspiracy theorist that I am this week, I was thinking there was something to that arrangement for a Sheriff's Deputy to interview Cheney the next day, and the SS turned away the deputy who showed up at the ranch gate Saturday. They wouldn't have wanted a cop (hmmm, what are SS?) to interview Cheney if he was intoxicated. Do you suppose?

a beer four hours earlier with lunch is not intoxication. I would say however that nothing should be consumed before if there are ANY plans for shooting of guns.

We will never know how many beers were had and any numbers thrown out are speculation.

I would like to see a normal person in this situation able to delay talking to the Police for 14 hours. I'm sure I would have told them I had one beer under that scenario as well...

Ever watch cops? It is funny how often they pull over someone for suspected DUI and they tell the cop they had "one" beer!

You're right I am sure they all pounded a half rack then when hunting

I am not saying they pounded anything! I do believe folks are being disingenuous when they say the circumstances surrounding this entire ordeal aren't a little bit suspicious.

As if you and I would have been afforded the same treatment!

I hear ya and agree. I am sure blood and breath would have beent he first thing that would have been checked.

Alcohol Firearms and Tobaco!

Who's bringing the chips?

Rove was contacted not long after the shooting.

Rove and Cheney are political animals. Both knew there would be a political cost for delaying going public.

The question is what benefit in delaying outweighed the cost of delaying?

The distraction from the accusations Cheney has been facing lately???

WMD intelligence, or lack thereof.

Scooter implicating his "superiors".

Your going to tell who,what?!
BOOM!! I do'nt think so.

Now there's a good name for that little dog

TK, AuntyM

Is Pam Willeford more than Cheney's hunting partner? Was Cheney
boozing it up? Answers to these questions and many more.

The saga of Dick Cheney's accidental shooting of Harry Whittington on
a Texas ranch continues to unfold. Every twist of the tale reveals
more juicy details. Here is a roundup of some of the most interesting
information about the shooting that's been swirling around in the
press and the blogs:

Is Pam Willeford more than Cheney's hunting partner?

Sirius Radio's Alex Bennett came out and said what many folks in the
media had been whispering about but were too timid to report: Pam
Willeford, the ambassador to Switzerland and Lichtenstein who was
standing at Cheney's side when the shotgun went off, could be more
than his hunting partner. RJ Eskew has more: "The real story is
already emerging, if you're willing to do a little digging. Cheney and
Whittington went hunting with two women (not their wives) …"

[rest of story here]
http://www.alternet.org/story/32311/

A male who is accustomed to drinking doesn't have one beer with a meal.

I agree. The 18 hour media delay is nothing much. Rove handles politics, media, the public face of the government. Cheney administers the government. As a public matter it was Rove's balliwick. But I can't see Cheney meekly letting Rove tell him what to do and say. Probably took them awhile to negotiate on how they were going to handle it.

Cheney was engaged in a very private social occation, staying at a ranch with some friends and shooting quail. Cheney got careless and shot his friend and hunting partner. It's a personal tragedy. And would remain a private matter for most people.

Probably wouldn't have been such a big story if Cheney wasn't so unpopular. (He's real low in the polls.) And he lives such a private life that the media jumped all over a little rip in the curtain.

But it was just a hunting accident. He does the bad stuff during regular working hours.

Me too. Two hands and only one mouth.

Was vice president sending 'Godfather'-style message?

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A North Carolina columnist claimed today Dick Cheney's shooting of friend Harry Whittington was not an accident, but was meant to be a message to his former chief of staff, Scooter Libby, not to testify against the vice president in the Valerie Plame leak investigation.

"Accident my eye. Or rather, Harry Whittington's eye," writes Barry Saunders in the Raleigh, N.C., News & Observer.

"If you believe it was just an accident that Vice President Dick Cheney shot his hunting companion last weekend, you obviously have never seen 'The Godfather' movies."

Continued Saunders in his column: "Just as surely as a fish wrapped in a bulletproof vest means 'Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes,' that shotgun blast to Whittington's face was meant to convey that I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby had better bite his tongue and forget about testifying against Cheney, his former boss, in the Valerie Plame spy case."

Libby has been indicted on federal charges he lied to investigators probing the leak of Plame's identity to the media. Last week, prosecutors reported he told a grand jury that superiors authorized him to disclose classified information to reporters because they were angered about Plame's husband's opposition to the Iraq war.

Vice President Dick Cheney

"A vice president who'll shoot an ally to get across his message of omerta – that's mobspeak for 'hush up' – may be considered a national disgrace by some," writes Saunders. "Not by me. I embrace the prospect of a lead-slingin' veep. Think of the impact Cheney's shot heard 'round the world will have on America's diplomatic efforts. When obstinate countries declare their unwillingness to negotiate with Secretary of State Condi Rice, all we have to do is roll out Deadeye Dick."

Whittington, Cheney's hunting buddy who was shot, had a mild heart attack today in the hospital where he is recovering from pellet wounds.

"Some of the bird shot appears to have moved and lodged into part of his heart in what we would say is a minor heart attack," Peter Banko, the administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial in Texas. told a news conference outside the hospital today.


URL: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48825
Image: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/dickcheney1.jpg

For a chuckle, see this: www.toonedin.com/cheney.html

RUN!!!HE'S GOT A GUN!!!

Doug Thompson of Capitol Hill Blue writes that secret service agents say Cheney was "clearly inebriated" when he shot his hunting partner.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8184.shtml

RUN!!HE'S DRUNK AN HAS A GUN!!!

Texas Bill to Regulate the Hunting and Harvesting of Attorneys


370.01 Any person with a valid in-state rodent or snake hunting license may also hunt and harvest attorneys for recreational and sport (non-commercial) purposes.

370.02 Taking of attorneys with traps or deadfalls is permitted. The use of United States currency as bait, however, is prohibited.



370.03 Stuffed or mounted attorneys must have a state health department inspection for rabies, and vermin.
370.04 The willful killing of attorneys with a motor vehicle is prohibited, unless such vehicle is an ambulance being driven in reverse. If an attorney is accidentally struck by a motor vehicle, the dead attorney should be removed to the roadside, and the vehicle should proceed immediately to the nearest car wash.



370.05 It is unlawful to chase, herd or harvest attorneys from a power boat, helicopter or aircraft.
370.06 It is unlawful to shout, "WHIPLASH", "AMBULANCE", or "FREE SCOTCH" for the purposes of trapping attorneys.
370.07 It is unlawful to hunt attorneys within 100 yards of BMW, Mercedes or Porsche dealerships, except on Wednesday afternoon.



370.08 It is unlawful to hunt attorneys within 200 yards of courtrooms, law libraries, health clubs, country clubs, hospitals or brothels.



370.09 If an attorney gains elective office, it is not necessary to have a license to hunt, trap or possess the same.
370.10 It is unlawful for a hunter to wear a disguise as a reporter, drugdealer, pimp, female legal clerk, sheep, accident victim, bookie, physician, chiropractor or tax accountant for the purpose of hunting attorneys.



370.11 Bag and Possession Limits per day:
Yellow-bellied sidewinders, 2;
Two-faced tortfeasors, 1;
Back-stabbing divorce litigators, 3;
Horn-rimmed cut-throats, 2;
Minutiae-advocating dirtbags, 4.
Honest attorneys protected (Endangered Species Act).