http://www.bbhq.com/bushlied.htm
here you go you all are so brite win this and I may change my stance.

You won't change your stance till Bush changes the kool aid flavor. Stop pretending otherwise!

little do you know. I diss agree with alot of his crap. what I dont like is when one person gets blamed for things beond there controle.

You'll never prove it. They're too good at it to get caught by anyone financed with a piddlin' amount like 5 g's.

So if you can't prove it it must not be true? Like God's existence perhaps? Or WMD's?
I can prove that Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Powell and Condi have all said things that later turned out to not be true. I can also prove that they then blamed agencies for these false statements. I can further prove that Bush appointed the heads of those agencies. After blaming the agencies for providing him false intelligence he turns around and awards medals. Hmmmmm.....I'm thinking....yup...a pack of bald faced lies. But can I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the above mentioned were only naive idiots versus evil liars? No I can't. No $5K for me.

will the hilarity ever stop....this time im actually on the floor rolling around laughing......... that piece isnt even written at an 8th grade level!!!!!!! how many lawns did that kid have to mow to get $5,000....

Then go win the money. See you all prove how pathetic you really are. All you do is talk.

I'll give you 10,000 dollars Aix if you prove George Bush has never lied!!! Come on step up and prove it! What's wrong? Is all you ever do is talk?

Dumb!

All presidents lie. It's part of the job description. Unfortunatly this ones lies have gotten us into a real mess in the middle east.

Did he say he had an exit strategy? If so that must have been a lie. Oh, I just remembered he doesn't need one. After all Republican party money paid for a banner on a U.S. warship that announced "Mission Accomplished". God I wish that hadn't been a lie.

The modern Republican Party is the first party in our history in which the basic political strategy is based on deceit and manipulation. It is the first party in power to practice internal propaganda, propaganda on our own people.

Domestic propaganda has in the past been a tool of authoritarian and totalitaring governments, not of our own governments.

To say that all presidents lie is to obscure the magnitude of the threat which Rovian political practices represents to our democratic values.

Bush told the country there were WMD in Iraq.

We've been there 3 years... no WMD found.

Bush is a liar.

Send me my $5,000.

hey dumb ars this is a question not a statement. How can this be a lie if I asked if you do? As for the banning BS your spewing. I have e mails from a few Board owners of when you’ve tried to get me banned but I wont put them up I know the truth and so do you Aunty cracker Cow. So don’t even go there. As for not having cronies if you don’t see your little possie that jumps right in when you do your as stupid as they come. Hell they don’t even read the links and try to speak up about some thing they no nothing about. Like ol fish bear dumb ars go read the link and win the money I never said I was the one paying it out moron.

Is TK back?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stlhead:
[QB] So if you can't prove it it must not be true? Like God's existence perhaps?

Now there's a smackdown!

Aix's last post is a great object lesson about not posting when you have been drinking. It should be Exhibit A.

Oh look here they are, the little group is showing up queen dork has her little cronies, showing up to the rescue. Eddie your as sharp as a fricken BB.
You should try reading it sober. I don’t drink haven’t in quite awhile now. Dumb ars

I never said he didn’t, but you all seam to think you’re all so right about every thing. I just thought a few of you might make a nice buck.
But hell I should have known, most every one on this board lies even with there fish pics. most are to dumb to even change shirts when the get to the take outs, and retake the same fish pic. and try to pass them off as how great they are..

"Like ol fish bear dumb ars go read the link and win the money I never said I was the one paying it out moron."

Drinking, smoking, snorting, or whatever it is you're doing... you had better knock it off as your gray matter is disappearing quickly. Do you use formaldehyde? It shows.

I did read it. I was trying to draw out the "brain" who put it there and I guess I did.

If you wish to call people names, we can arrange a meeting and see what names you would like to call me then... big guy comes to mind. Until then why don't you at least try and act like a civil human being?

BTW, I proved it so pay up.

That’s good you’re real mature there, but I will play your game, Time and place? I will tell you to your face what I’ve said here, and to let you know I don’t scare bro. so think about what you’re saying and what you’re asking for.
and buy the way I never said I would pay so goes to show how ignorant you really are.

Oh, we're playing the "who's mature game" are we? Well, let's see here... who's calling whom the playground names? You seem to have cornered the market there so I will let you play your games. If you want to get serious, however, let me know, OK?

They started with lies an they will go out with lies.
They told you what they wanted you to hear so
that they could get what they wanted.
And now we live so much more of a police state that it makes me want to throw up!!

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The only cash he'll get from the last post is what's already available from his account at the ATM.
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The Uranium Joe Wilson Didn't Mention

By April 2003, when the U.S. invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein had stockpiled 500 tons of yellowcake uranium at his al Tuwaitha nuclear weapons development plant south of Baghdad.

That intriguing little detail is almost never mentioned by the big media, who prefer to chant the mantra "Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction" while echoing Joseph Wilson's claim that "Bush lied" about Iraq seeking more of the nuclear material in Niger.

The media's decision to put the Wilson-Plame affair back on the front burner, however, may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for President Bush - giving his administration a chance to resurrect an important debate they conceded far too easily about the weapons of mass destruction threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
First, the facts - from a reliable critic of the White House, the New York Times, which covered the story long after the paper announced it was tightening its standards on WMD news out of Iraq.

"The United States has informed an international agency that oversees nuclear materials that it intends to move hundreds of tons of uranium from a sealed repository south of Baghdad to a more secure place outside Iraq," the paper announced in a little-noticed May 2004 report.

"The repository, at Tuwaitha, a centerpiece of Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons program until it was largely shut down after the first Persian Gulf war in 1991, holds more than 500 tons of uranium," the paper revealed, before insisting: "None of it [is] enriched enough to be used directly in a nuclear weapon."

Well, almost none.

The Times went on to report that amidst Saddam's yellowcake stockpile, U.S. weapons inspectors found "some 1.8 tons" that they "classified as low-enriched uranium."

The paper conceded that while Saddam's nearly 2 tons of partially enriched uranium was "a more potent form" of the nuclear fuel, it was "still not sufficient for a weapon."

Consulted about the low-enriched uranium discovery, however, Ivan Oelrich, a physicist at the Federation of American Scientists, told the Associated Press that if it was of the 3 percent to 5 percent level of enrichment common in fuel for commercial power reactors, the 1.8 tons could be used to produce enough highly enriched uranium to make a single nuclear bomb.

And Thomas B. Cochran, director of the nuclear program at the Natural Resources Defense Council, told the Times that the low-enriched uranium could be useful to a nation with nuclear ambitions.

"A country like Iran could convert that into weapons-grade material with a lot fewer centrifuges than would be required with natural uranium," he explained.

Luckily, Iraq didn't have even the small number of centrifuges necessary to get the job done.

Or did it?

The physicist tapped by Saddam to run his centrifuge program says that after the first Gulf War, the program was largely dismantled. But it wasn't destroyed.

In fact, according to what he wrote in his 2004 book, "The Bomb in My Garden," Dr. Mahdi Obeidi told U.S. interrogators: "Saddam kept funding the IAEC [Iraq Atomic Energy Commission] from 1991 ... until the war in 2003."

"I was developing the centrifuge for the weapons" right through 1997, he revealed.

And after that, Dr. Obeidi said, Saddam ordered him under penalty of death to keep the technology available to resume Iraq's nuke program at a moment's notice.

Dr. Obeidi said he buried "the full set of blueprints, designs - everything to restart the centrifuge program - along with some critical components of the centrifuge" under the garden of his Baghdad home.

"I had to maintain the program to the bitter end," he explained. All the while the Iraqi physicist was aware that he held the key to Saddam's continuing nuclear ambitions.

"The centrifuge is the single most dangerous piece of nuclear technology," Dr. Obeidi says in his book. "With advances in centrifuge technology, it is now possible to conceal a uranium enrichment program inside a single warehouse."

Consider: 500 tons of yellowcake stored at Saddam's old nuclear weapons plant, where he'd managed to partially enrich 1.8 tons. And the equipment and blueprints that could enrich enough uranium to make a bomb stored away for safekeeping. And all of it at the Iraqi dictator's disposal.

If the average American were aware of these undisputed facts, the debate over Iraq's weapons of mass destruction would have been decided long ago - in President Bush's favor.

One more detail that Mr. Wilson and his media backers don't like to discuss: There's a reason Niger was such a likely candidate for Saddam's uranium shopping spree.

Responding to the firestorm that erupted after Wilson's July 2003 column, Prime Minister Tony Blair told reporters:

"In case people should think that the whole idea of a link between Iraq and Niger was some invention, in the 1980s we know for sure that Iraq purchased round about 270 tons of uranium from Niger."

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You know Rory, I have told people this before. If there really was prof of weapons, or weapons grade nuclear fuel. We would hear about it from the podium of the White House. Not from some article. They need it to be true. And they would not waste anytime telling the world all about it. We would more that likely not hear about anything else for days.

And that is why any reasonable person should realize there just weren't any.

Hate to break up the love fest but I have a question. Can anyone here show me an elected official who does not lie and/or manipulate for personal gain. I would bet the only ones would be newly elected local officals. After a short time though they would probably be doing the same things as well. Power and money are corrupting, regardless of party or politics. And this has been going on since the beginning of our great nation. Do a little reading about our 2nd president, John Adams. The infighting and backstabbing of his cabinet was crippling. The election between he and Jefferson was as contentious as any modern contest. I don't hold out any hope, it's the nature of the beast. The best we can do is hold them accountable when we catch them (good luck with that).

Umm.

No.

OK, next question.

Well, it is possable that George Washington never told a lie.

Our representative democracy has survived, and thrived, for over 200 years. Don't think that would have been the case if most politicos had been slimeballs from the beginning.

There have been periods of corruption, like under Grant and Harding. But the integrity of our political system, under our Constitution, endured. Corruption was inevitably followed by reform.

Even today, definitely an era when the scum rises to the top, some politicians are OK. As an example,I believe Patty Murray, our senior senator, is a fine person who does not lie and/or manipulate for personal gain.

The threat to our nation is not so much the "normal" corruption of failable human beings. It is that our government has fallen into the hands of men who do not love America.

Bush, as the prime example, knows nothing about our history and nothing about our democratic traditions. And he could not care less. He is an ignorant man for whom the Constitution is an obstacle, not a guide.

What a crock. Like a scarecrow trying to describe an elephant. Something he's never seen and most assuredly cannot understand. Shades of Tammany Hall.

Hey Sard, you OK old timer?
Wouldn't want you to choke on your bile.
You're no TK but you and Rory are the only wingnuts we got left.

AuntyM,

No,just maybe type a little slower next time.

Me thinks proof of a lie was given all over the evening news yesterday. Bush lied about Katrina!

That's right stlhead! Video proof all over the news that Bush lied when he said nobody had anticipated the levees would fail.

With Bush approval ratings at 34%, MSM is getting bold enough to cover a story like that.

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Yeah, I don't understand Microo. He's too literate to be a right winger at all..... Maybe he will grow out of it.

Has anybody gone to te website and collected there 5 G's yet?