http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Content...d=1142722231554


Interesting results....... check it out

So THAT'S where Rory came from.

We won't be hearing about this one on Fox "news."

I am confused now. It seemed to me they were describing you guys. LOL

I have never been a conformist. I have always made my own decisions, I am overflowing with self confidence, liberals whine till somethings given to them, and conservatives like to learn so they could do it themselves.

Liberals have a sense of entitlement. Conservatives dont complain about having to work for a living and dont expect anything for free.

conservatives fearfull? LMFAO
who was whining that we should leave the middle east alone so we dont piss them off more? LIBERALS hahahahahahahha The study is bogus.

The great Micro has spoken!!!! Thanks for helping me see the truth.

Microp, you're an exception to the rule.

But Karl Rove knows his constituency. Ever since 9-11 the Bu****es have been working at creating a climate of fear. And it worked for awhile.

if you think that liberals are whinning about leaving iraq so that we dont piss em of more-you are a conformist...... and the brave republicans want to stay because of their lack of fear.blah blah blah

liberals have a sense of entitlement etc....sorry micro but your post shows you completely conform to the republican and conservative talk radio talking points......

if you believe anythign you just wrote your beyond conformist....your a kool aid drinker

lupo, thats not what I said. I have heard liberals say over and over again that we shouldnt even be in the middle east (not just Iraq) because were just going to make more terrorist and more enemies. Lupo, your using typical liberal debate tactics. Responding with a response that sounds good to your buddies but really has nothing to do with what I said. Your avoiding admitting that the study really was biased and pertains to liberals. Your drinking the liberal koolaid so blindly your going to end up with diabetes.

also
Just yesterday I heard liberals complaining about big corperations making to much money and how they should give more of there money to people that dont have any. The guy was a true socialist in every sense of the definition hes on Am 1090. the thing that really irked me was he wouldnt say that the money was earned by the corperations just how greedily the horded it. My outlook on "greedy corperations" is that it is there money to do with as they see fit. They earned it. If there employees dont feel they are being payed enough then they are free to find better employment or start the own company! Heil marxist. lol. The study is really a bogus piece of dung and only conformist liberals would believe it was a sound study.

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I found (the Jack Block study) to be biased, shoddy work, poor science at best'

Jeff Greenberg

University of Arizona

Micro...those Corps are given massive breaks out of your pocket...talk about Socialistic.

Ooobity boo. The liberals are ruining the country.

Yep. The study is sound.

Microp, do you see a corporation as a person? You obviously don't see a corporation as being the sum of the employees. Do you see a corporation as being like a person, with moral imperatives and moral rights and all?

From reading his posts and political opinions here... I think it's safe to say... that isn't all he's not aware of...

4 Salt - You gain the "NO [Bleeeeep!]" award for the day!! Good one.

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`I found (the Jack Block study) to be biased, shoddy work, poor science at best'

Jeff Greenberg

University of Arizona

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"I found it to be biased, shoddy work, poor science at best," he said of the Block study. He thinks insecure, defensive, rigid people can as easily gravitate to left-wing ideologies as right-wing ones. He suspects that in Communist China, those kinds of people would likely become fervid party members."

What the critic ends up saying in the last sentence is that the people that are right-wingers here would be fervid party members in Communist China.

That's an even bigger slam on right wingers than what Jack Block was saying!

"Microp, do you see a corporation as a person? You obviously don't see a corporation as being the sum of the employees. Do you see a corporation as being like a person, with moral imperatives and moral rights and all?"

A corporation is comprised of a group of people. pee-ons, upper pee-ons, supervisors , executives,and corporate officers.
Executives and Co's make the big bucks while the pee-ons have to work there way up the chain just as most of the higher ups did.If they dont have the skills or drive to better themselves they will fail and be a pee-on forever. Thats there decision. Thats the American way its your choice.

As far as those huge tax breaks and subsidies go. them people will [Bleeeeep!] more money in taxes then you will ever make. They put alot into the economy. Wealthy people pay a higher percentage of taxes already. without the wealthy your taxes would be much higher.

I have made the choice to have fun now. I dont have the desire to work my arse off and be rich though I do have the ability. Its just not me. You wont hear me whine about being ghetto poor or asking for handouts. Just so you know I am not saying these things because I am a rich corporate executive or something. I think ya'll got that impression already though didnt you.

"As far as those huge tax breaks and subsidies go. them people will [Bleeeeep!] more money in taxes then you will ever make. They put alot into the economy. Wealthy people pay a higher percentage of taxes already. without the wealthy your taxes would be much higher."

1. if you can prove that you will be the richest economist in history
2.you are also placing great value in "economic growth" when the value should be placed on "economic strength"

consider the flooowing allegory of your statement:
so if a rich guy has a 100 dollars and instead of taxing him $20 he gets a tax break and is only taxed $10.......so your saying he has an extra $10 to spend and make the economy "grow". so he buys a boat for $9 bucks and spends $1 on sales tax....
the boat maker that sold the boat made 3 dollars on the boat and pays $1 in taxes on it.......

so you have given back ten dollars in tax breaks and thru trickle down you have gotten back two dollars.

you guys that spew this theory have never thought it thru......the rich dont take their money and go and build factories that employ americans that can then go and spend......they build factories in CHINA

Micro, in the eyes of the law a Corp is a living breathing entity and is treated like a person when it's to it's advantage and vice versa when it's to it's advantage. Most major Corps pay zero tax. ZERO. So your theory should be the opposite....if the wealthy paid taxes like the rest of us our taxes would be much lower.

so your a 1090 listener stlHead. your statement is so full of BS. if that was true Why are they moving over seas its not Just cheeper labor either why did boeing move to Texas the taxes were killing them.

corps pay zero taxes? LMFAO now thats FUNNY!

Boeing moved to Cook County, Illinois, home of the largest jury awards in the nation.

When the next 7-series aircraft crashes, that move could very well bite them in the ass.

And yes, many corporations pay little or zero net taxes. If you don't believe it, then you ought to try putting your head in the daylight.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0419/p16s03-cogn.html

Keep laughing at the fact that YOU paid more taxes than many corporations did.

Oh contraire.

So the rich dont pay taxes eh? B.S
anybody can find this crap on the net. Some corporations get away with murder yes they do but most of those are out of country corps. The in country corps that recieved huge tax breaks in 2001-2003 as both your links show are companies that were invested in to help keep the American economy going.

Heres some graphs that show the rich pay most the taxes in this country .
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6

The top 10% pay 65% of the taxes in this country. FACT!

http://us.ixquick.com/do/metasearch.pl?c...mp;engine9=goto

Funny! All liberal and democratic sites. great unpartisen facts there bud.

Heres some of you buddies right wings facts. Rush limbaugh.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/top_50__of_wage_earners_pay_96_09__of_income_taxes.guest.html

micro,

Are you actually trying to look like a dope?

You were LOL'ing about CORPORATIONS not paying taxes. Then you post from Rush's site about INDIVIDUAL income taxes. You're chasing your tail and mixing your metaphors.

You might try comparing apples and apples next time.

My heads starting to hurt. Too much input for one twenty four hour period. KK I applaud your informative post and lack of personal or indirect attacks.

the rich do pay alot in taxes.....its the super rich that pay the least percentage.......i have a friend who makes several million dollars a year as a stock scalper working all by himself(no other employees other than his wife.....his business is set up as three corporations and he pays about 10% in tax.......

basically all tax law is designed to build loop holes to help out the poor ole corporations

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/P80242.asp

"With corporate tax receipts at 20-year low, the GAO takes a look through the books and finds 94% of all U.S. companies paid less than 5% -- and 61% paid nothing at all."

http://www.ctj.org/corpfed04an.pdf

This report chose 275 corp's and lists the:
"82 Companies Paying Zero Tax or Less in at Least One Year, 2001–2003"

Some of the largest in the world are on the list.

Yeah stick it to those greedy capitalist pigs!!!!

'From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs'

http://sp-usa.org/

Workers Of The World Unite!!!!!


http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/

Do you have some kind of fixation with socialism Rory?

I think he is just flexing his moron muscle!

Socialism would improve Rory's standing.

Just tryin' to add a little levity folks. :p
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On a serious note, do any of you think that making it less profitable for corporations to do business in this country would actually be beneficial to our countries economy or the number of jobs that are created and/or kept here?

Companies can remain profitable and still pay their taxes. Millions of Americans seem to be able to do it.

Not that I expect facism supporters to understand that.

Come on GH you're smarter, I mean more 'enlightened' than that, in fascism the state owns and controls everything including business', who's advocating that?
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This is classic :p :

"characteristic of the Age of Enlightenment, from which liberalism and, later, Marxism would emerge."

"Fascism is also typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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BTW-- Still anxious to hear the arguments of how raising taxes on corporations helps to create jobs or keep them here in the states.

Not much levity. I don't know anyone here that has said anything like

"Yeah stick it to those greedy capitalist pigs!!!!"

Well, except for you

You just showed that you know nothing about the society from which Marxism sprang.

Wake up, Krusty. The businesses are advocating it. Go back and read what Eisenhower said. The "state" is becoming a corporation. Such to the point that corporations are running the country, much like a dictator ala facism. You think Abramoff and Cunningham were isolated cases? It's only the beginning.

Supporting American capitalism does not have to mean being a patsy.

I wish those that had such a woody for Socialism would have had some practical experience with it. I have lived in a Socialistic State and I'm here to tell you that there is good and bad with that system, just like the one we live under. Trying to turn gray into black or white is very difficult albeit sometimes satisfying.

Besides, there's no such thing as capitalism in Corp America. Capitalism would mean competing without govt intervention (corp welfare and such).

Bush was bad until fools elected Donald Trump.