#173963 - 03/22/06 05:35 PM
Memory, Speed of Thinking Get Worse over Time with Marijuana Use
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Three Time Spawner
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Memory, Speed of Thinking Get Worse over Time with Marijuana UseEMBARGOED FOR RELEASE UNTIL 4 P.M. ET, MONDAY, MARCH 13, 2006 St. Paul, Minn. Memory, speed of thinking and other cognitive abilities get worse over time with marijuana use, according to a new study published in the March 14, 2006, issue of Neurology, the scientific journal of the American Academy of Neurology. The study found that frequent marijuana users performed worse than non-users on tests of cognitive abilities, including divided attention (ability to pay attention to more than one stimulus at a time) and verbal fluency (number of words generated within a time limit). Those who had used marijuana for 10 years or more had more problems with their thinking abilities than those who had used marijuana for five to 10 years. All of the marijuana users were heavy users, which was defined as smoking four or more joints per week. We found that the longer people used marijuana, the more deterioration they had in these cognitive abilities, especially in the ability to learn and remember new information, said study author Lambros Messinis, PhD, of the Department of Neurology of the University Hospital of Patras in Patras, Greece. In several areas, their abilities were significant enough to be considered impaired, with more impairment in the longer-term users than the shorter-term users. The study involved people ages 17 to 49 taking part in a drug abuse treatment program in Athens, Greece. There were 20 long-term users, 20 shorter-term users and 24 control subjects who had used marijuana at least once in their lives but not more than 20 times and not in the past two years. Those who had used any other class of drugs, such as cocaine or stimulants, during the past year or for more than three months throughout their lives were not included in the study. Before the tests were performed, all participants had to abstain from marijuana for at least 24 hours. The marijuana users performed worse in several cognitive domains, including delayed recall, recognition and executive functions of the brain. For example, on a test measuring the ability to make decisions, long-term users had 70 percent impaired performance, compared to 55 percent impaired performance for shorter-term users and 8 percent impaired performance for non-users. In a test where participants needed to remember a list of words that had been read to them earlier, the non-users remembered an average of 12 out of 15 words, the shorter-term users remembered an average of nine words and the long-term users remembered an average of seven words. end The American Academy of Neurology, an association of more than 19,000 neurologists and neuroscience professionals, is dedicated to improving patient care through education and research. A neurologist is a doctor with specialized training in diagnosing, treating and managing disorders of the brain and nervous system such as stroke, Alzheimer's disease, epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, autism and multiple sclerosis. For more information about the American Academy of Neurology, visit www.aan.com.
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#173964 - 03/22/06 05:48 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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So it's true about GW's drug use!
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#173966 - 03/22/06 08:28 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/02/03
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Loc: Olympia
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cannibus stupidus
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#173967 - 03/22/06 09:11 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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After reading this, I'm afraid I'm going to have to..........uhhhh......... What?
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#173968 - 03/22/06 10:42 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/02/04
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Loc: Portland
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Don't worry Rory, somewhere out there explains your condition, keep looking!
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#173970 - 03/23/06 04:04 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/06
Posts: 930
Loc: Olympia
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That's why they call it dope. Only users lose drugs. I havn't found mine since my daughter was born.
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#173980 - 04/06/06 07:32 PM
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Fry
Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Gig Harbor
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"You'd be hard pressed to give me a math or physics problem I can't solve"
How about this one. Math is a hobby of mine.
There are no positive integers such that x^n + y^n = z^n for n>2
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#173981 - 04/07/06 06:56 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 08/26/04
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The study is flawed. [Quote]Before the tests were performed, all participants had to abstain from marijuana for at least 24 hours.[Quote]
If I asked people who were regular, heavy caffiene users to abstain from caffeine for 24 hours and then tested their cognitive skills against a control group guess what might happen?
Would that mean coffee drinkers had poorer memory then non-coffee drinkers? Would that further imply that Seattle is a town full of lost souls who can't remember where they put their car keys, or their wife?
Or what if I had all the groups abstain for 30 days or more, then did the testing?
And 4-5 J's a week? Now would that be all on Friday and Saturday? Or would they be spaced out over the week? Maybe people who have the time to smoke all week were stupid to begin with. Maybe if they looked at weekend use only they would have had different results. This is a poorly designed study, done by people who should have known better.
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#173982 - 04/07/06 10:41 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 12/19/03
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Loc: Poulsbo
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There are no positive integers such that x^n + y^n = z^n for n>2 So what! Are you going to make a problem statement or just spin riddles with variables?
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#173984 - 04/07/06 10:54 AM
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River Nutrients
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Plus the study doesn't mention quality. The stuff I used to get in the late 70's would turn you into an 8 hour vegetable.
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#173985 - 04/07/06 11:30 AM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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It's better than in the 70's. Way better. Believe it, because a little bird told me.
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#173986 - 04/07/06 11:32 AM
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River Nutrients
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Yeah but I bet it isn't still soaked in opium.
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#173987 - 04/07/06 12:17 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/29/04
Posts: 528
Loc: Richland,Washington
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This thread reminds me of that old Cheech and Chong segment from the 70s where Officer Friendly comes to school for the anti-drug lecture.
It was something like Officer Friendly shows the students a baggie of marijuana and asks "OK kids, does anybody know what this is?"
Student replies:
"That's Columbian Red!"
"No man! No! That's Oaxacan!"
"BS! That Michoacan!"
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#173988 - 04/07/06 09:29 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13518
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Sol,
UW here too. You have my sympathy. Just had to poke a little fun at ya'. I got an education there too, but it wasn't what I had in mind (68-76). And I'm anything but anti-cannabis. I'm a drug Libertarian; legalize 'em all. The war on drugs is beyond stupid. In 1996 the estimated value of illegal drug traffic in the U.S. was $100,000,000,000. The cost that year for the war on drugs was $105,000,000,000. Declaring drugs illegal is good for two groups: drug trafficers and drug law enforcement. It's high profits for one and job security for the other. OK, my little drug rant is over.
Sincerely,
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#173989 - 04/08/06 12:49 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/29/04
Posts: 528
Loc: Richland,Washington
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Originally posted by Sol: It's probably because most users are uneducated imbeciles to start with. I've done it all my life. My university GPA was 3.7 (at 30 years old), I passed the PE exam the first time through, and I generally come out on top debaiting other people on whatever topic. Smoke-em if ya got-em, I say.
Sol from another thread---" I'd drop a bomb on the middle east large enough to turn the landscape to glass if I was president." So there has been no effect on brain function from drugs and alcoholism?
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#173992 - 04/10/06 01:20 PM
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Spawner
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There are too many people that are nuts on this board. I think it's time to bag it. Goodbye folks!
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#173998 - 04/10/06 07:33 PM
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Spawner
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You are entertaining Sol. My daddy died in an airplane crash before I was old enough to advise. However, his surrogate, my uncle said that if you are really good you needn't tell anyone about it. The friends, acquaintances, public will all know it. Proud of you SuckerSnagger. I totally agree. Now that might just be scary enough to bring you back.
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#174003 - 04/11/06 11:02 AM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/16/02
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i totally agree with ya sol- i think its the only way i ever got an A in operations management and some of my other higher math classes..... some of the smartest people i know are daily smokers...... heres a math problem for ya sol- create a perfect circle....... now create a square with the exact same area...... they dont bite till ya light!
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#174004 - 04/11/06 11:06 AM
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River Nutrients
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Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
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If smoking pot made him dumber, You ever think it might make him smarter? Here's an algebra problem Fishead5 sent me. It took me about 20 minutes to solve last night. http://ian-albert.com/misc/algebra.php I'll post the worked out solution if ya'll can't solve it. Lupo: Thats easy unless you want to define more stringent parameters, just set the areas equal and solve.
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#174006 - 04/11/06 01:23 PM
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River Nutrients
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I doubt it would be too smart to smoke pot when you work in an industry with random drug testing. That always pissed me off. What people do on there own time is nobody's business but their own.
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#174007 - 04/11/06 02:14 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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5.75....I guess I haven't done as much damage as I thought I had. It's been a while but I received straight A's in math through Calc.
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#174008 - 04/11/06 02:32 PM
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River Nutrients
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Way to go, Bro. Here's the nuts and bolts for those WSU grads. Rope=1/3 LB/FT Hanging Wt.=Wt. Monkey Banana=2 Oz./In. Length Rope=Age Monkey Monkey Wt.(Oz.)=Monkeys Moms Age Monkey Age+Moms Age=30 (Monkey/2)+Banana=(Rope Wt.+Hanging Wt.)/4 Therefore, Monkey+4Banana=Rope Wt. x=Monkeys Age y=Moms Age y=3x/2 x=30-y Therefore, y=3(30-y)/2 y=18 x=12 Rope=12' Wt. Rope=0.333(12)=3.99 Lbs=63.99 Oz Substitute into above: 18 Oz + 4 Banana = 63.99 Oz Banana=11.49 Oz 11.49 Oz / (2 Oz/In) = 5.75"
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#174010 - 04/11/06 02:54 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
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sol- but wont a circle have a surface area that ends in a repeating decimal that is not attainable with a square? i cant remember where i got that one from ,but i think it was from a sandwich shop on mercer island where a math proffesor puts up math problems and if the kids can solve it, they get a free sandwich.
my neighbor is a math proffessor and he loves to solve problems and stump me with em...... im a square headed sweed., so they take me quite a while
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#174011 - 04/11/06 04:10 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
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I got yer banana right here, Sol. Are you the 18 Oz. monkey holding it? I love the way they make those units work out. Lupo: Thus my statement about more parameters. That problem could be solved up to a couple of decimal places, but like you pointed out, Pie goes on in a non-repeating sequence of decimals to infinity, which would yeild an area unattainable with square geometry.
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#174012 - 04/11/06 04:18 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Pi is cool.
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#174013 - 04/11/06 04:40 PM
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River Nutrients
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Infinity is incomprehensible.
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#174014 - 04/11/06 08:30 PM
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River Nutrients
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Integers also include negative numbers.
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#174015 - 04/11/06 11:39 PM
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River Nutrients
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Originally posted by Dan S.: Pi is cool. Hair pi...
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