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#174478 - 05/09/06 02:33 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
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I think a business owner should be able to hire and fire anyone anytime, it is up to the employee to be efficient and keep him/herself in demand
I agree.

IF YOU HAVE CAUSE.

Being gay is not cause, any more than being black or a woman is cause. If the job is being performed per the employer's requirements, someone should not have to fear being fired merely for being gay.
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#174479 - 05/09/06 03:10 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dave D Offline
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Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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These aren't "special rights". They're rights virtually every American is granted under the Constitution. At first, blacks and other minorities weren't granted these rights......neither were women. But as we matured as a nation it was clear that these groups were also entitled to these Constitutional rights. It should now be apparent to anyone with any emapthy for their fellow man that gays, as a group, also deserve these same protections.
Good post Dan!
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#174480 - 05/09/06 11:14 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Parr

Registered: 04/07/06
Posts: 53
Loc: Ohio
Hey Orgonian - Why don't you go drag a gay persom, maybe "Ellen" from the bumper of your truck, I think it would make you feel better.

You are hatefull, prejudice and totally unsuited for a civilized society

The only moral thought that carries any weight with me is "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you". You don't need religion for that, you just need to be good person and neighbor to all.

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#174481 - 05/09/06 11:39 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
Bobber, me thinks Org may live under a stump on a timber sale way up in the Dallas area backwoods (makes him feel like a real logger). He wasn't breast fed by his mother, or maybe he was forced to breast feed from an adoptive parent. So, he still has issues with the women folk and can't understand why they keep turning gay on him, hence the hatred for the opposite sex. What he hasn't realized yet is that if just made the switch like every backwoods homophobe should (yes Org, you protesst too much, HAHA) he could probably find someone to actually love him and who cares what the neighbors say. May best advice for him?? Go rent Brokeback Landing or whatever and lighten up already.
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#174482 - 05/10/06 12:43 AM Re: GOP Heroes
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
See Oregonian, you aren't even human per the previous pious Hiss Ants. Isn't it amazing how the issue degenerates into a personal attack and character assassination? What's really amazing is the occurence of the words: moral, religion, hatred, homophobe, love and breast fed. I am suprised they have the vocabularial use of the terms and no sense of meaning.

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#174483 - 05/10/06 04:47 AM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
"Yeah I know. Some of the Green Weeny concerns are valid"

"Another self-proclaimed Dumb s I see"

"The democrats that proudly wear the tag nowdays are socialists and fools to boot."

"Tell me itchyrhoid are you just naturally an ass or do you work at it?"

You're a funny fella Sard, sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I think you're just trying to get a rise like many others here including my self. Don't take it too personally, it's just a little humor relief courtesy of yours truly. I'll be overwhelmed with work here again and you won't see my "pious hiss ant" retorts for a little while, not as constantly anyways. I know I can be a little over the top for people like you but I do enjoy p****** of the religious right. That's the great thing about this forum is that it allows you to vent and state your case, at times ad nauseum and even every once in awhile somebody engages in a civil debate. Don't hold you breast, ooops I mean breath.

uhh...yeah..Hello Pot??.....This is the kettle
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#174485 - 05/10/06 05:23 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Single sex marriage would be in addition too equal rights, as I have said before, gays already have equal rights....


You can always tell when the opposition runs out of ammo, they start with the homophobe crap......

You guys would have a genuine punching bag IF I had any ill will toward women, blacks, and/or gays, but I don't and my posts make that plain to anyone with the time to read them...........

However;
1) I do not think gays deserve any special rights,

2) I think that the individual mothers who choose to work instead raise their kids are making a horrible mistake which effects not only them and their kids, but the rest of society as well.


Do all you petrophobes and bigophobes get it ?

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#174487 - 05/10/06 06:03 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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as I have said before, gays already have equal rights....
As I said before, you're wrong.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#174488 - 05/10/06 06:08 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
AuntyM, do you deny that thousands of middle class married women work at full time jobs ?

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#174489 - 05/10/06 06:10 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Dan S.

How did those gays get by for the last 2000 years without the special right to marry someone of the same sex ?

Would there be any reason for a person to not be able to marry a dog or cat ?

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#174490 - 05/10/06 06:43 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dave D Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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Would there be any reason for a person to not be able to marry a dog or cat ?
That question does not really deserve a answer.

Since you have a special fondness for the four legged ones, here is a link for ya.

Enumclaw-area animal-sex case investigated

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002382718_horse15m.html
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#174491 - 05/10/06 06:48 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
If single sex marriage, then why not be able to marry a tree or a rock ?


Maybe you could just refresh my memory, what is the point of single sex marriage anyway ?

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#174492 - 05/10/06 06:49 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
I'll pass on the link to animal sex, same as I'd pass on a link to gay sex, thanks anyway.

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#174494 - 05/10/06 06:59 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dave D Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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I'll pass on the link to animal sex, same as I'd pass on a link to gay sex, thanks anyway.
Come on, Rory will be your Puddy Tat

Meow
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#174495 - 05/10/06 07:00 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 1459
Loc: Third stone from the sun
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Originally posted by Dan S.:

Being gay is not cause, any more than being black or a woman is cause.
Dan,

Even though your heart may be in the right place by championing the quest to 'special rights of homosexuals' to that of the rights inheirently entitled to blacks and women equal to rights granted to all others under our Constitution--The simple fact is that somene's gender or ethnicity is predetermined and developed before they're out of their mothers womb--science can prove that---There is no credible scientific study that definitely proves homosexuality is practiced as a result of nature (inheirent) vs. nurture (influenced by environment and life experiences).
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#174496 - 05/10/06 07:06 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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--The simple fact is that somene's gender or ethnicity is predetermined and developed before they're out of their mothers womb--science can prove that---The fact is there'se no credible study that definitely proves that homosexuality is practiced as a result of nature vs. nurture.
Sure, Rory. Gays are gay just for fun. What could be better than being ridiculed and discriminated against your whole life? The brains of gay man are physiologically different than those of hetero men.......did they teach their brains to be physiologically different? Oh, and since when did the protections Christians enjoy come from being born Christian? Christians CHOOSE to be Christian, yet they are protected under the Constitution.

O,

Find a dog that will consent to marrying you, and the two of you will have my blessing.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#174497 - 05/10/06 07:06 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dave D Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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science can prove that
You got to love when Christians fall back on science smile Too dang funny

Dan
I'll go in on a gift for them with ya....I suggest a choke collar
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#174498 - 05/10/06 07:09 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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Maybe you could just refresh my memory, what is the point of single sex marriage anyway ?
To be able to enjoy the SAME Constitutionally guaranteed marital rights as hetero couples do. Dan explained it very clearly in an earlier post. You are either incapable of understanding... or simply refuse to... in order to keep the 'debate' going. I'm pretty sure it's the latter... and I'm sure that you derive as much enjoyment out of stirring the political pot here as you used to get butting heads with Keta and friends over fisheries issues on the Oregon boards. wink
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#174500 - 05/10/06 07:40 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 05/02/04
Posts: 384
Loc: Portland
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/05/08/lesbian.brains.ap/index.html

No credible studies? Hmmmmmmm? Maybe I misread something.

Again, I pose the question. What impact on YOUR life does recognizing homosexual marriages have? How can it possibly diminish the "sanctity" of your marriage?

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#174502 - 05/10/06 08:13 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
AuntyM,
Your persistence on calling it a parent instead of a mother is okay with me I guess.....as long as the parents raise their own kids instead of hiring it done.


As far as the homos go, I REALLY don't care one way or the other what they do, or why, but there is no reason to give them special treatment just for being/acting like a freak. I can say that because it's true, and I still ain't scared of'em.

FCOL ! We have Natives gillnetting wild fish, dams blocking rivers, illegal aliens stealing our good Country, we're running completely out of OIL, and you guys are huddled up with the twinks............TOO FUNNY

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