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#174739 - 05/09/06 08:57 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
4Salt Offline
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It all really depends on how long the super-mega-ultra conservative evangelical Christian right continues to swill the GOP / Karl Rove Kool-Aid with wreckless abandon... and turns out to vote in to office more corrupt administrations like the one we have presently.

Stop that... and we just might have a fighting chance of survivin' to the next century.

Fail... and we're all DOOMED!!

fridge laugh
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#174740 - 05/09/06 08:59 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
Oregonian Offline
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Ha Ha
Dang it
You guys crack me up !!!!!!!!!!!

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#174741 - 05/10/06 12:27 AM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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The salty one has a distinct advantage. He works with the Democratic stand up comedians. Dipsy Dean, Katastrophic Kerry, The Kennedy Swim Team Kids, and Breast Stroke Bill.

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#174742 - 05/10/06 12:50 AM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
Dave D Offline
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Quote:
how do you know when it will be
June 23, 2057 at 9:06 a.m.

or maybe I was wrong

June 1, 2006 @ 9:11 p.m.

Oh and don't forget the seconds

Sorry dude, forgot my crystal ball.

However if history tells us anything, it is that no one stays on top forever.
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#174744 - 05/13/06 01:52 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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Quote:
Originally posted by 4Salt:
It all really depends on how long the super-mega-ultra conservative evangelical Christian right continues to swill the GOP / Karl Rove Kool-Aid with wreckless abandon... and turns out to vote in to office more corrupt administrations like the one we have presently.

Stop that... and we just might have a fighting chance of survivin' to the next century.

Fail... and we're all DOOMED!!

fridge laugh
We survived and prospered as a conservative nation until now. Its the left wing bunny huggin panty sniffers that have brought on the begining of the end.

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#174745 - 05/13/06 06:40 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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Dave D.

You said,"not while we are alive", I took that to mean not in the next 40-50 years but it is definatly up to interpretation, so exactly whay did you mean, and why do you think it ?

I have been asked on the forum to reply with my own thoughts in my own words, so I think it would be nice if we all did it..........

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#174747 - 05/16/06 10:53 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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Registered: 10/23/02
Posts: 48
Loc: Olympia
I can't tell you how many towns in the Southeast have become 50% Mexican in the last ten years. Some of them were fairly large towns. Entire strips of road around Atlanta are Mexican-- signs in Spanish, everything becoming bilingual. The carpet mills get cheap labor, eveyone else gets to pay for more schools. One company is being investigated for recruiting illegals form Texas to come work to keep labor down. A possible RICO case may be brought froward. It is a complete mess in some places. The marches recently have pissed a lot of people off. People who have worked in roofing, painting and house framing are being put out of business due to price. Other trades will follow in the next ten years. Just think, in another ten years, Seattle, Puyallup, Renton, etc will be 50% Mexican. Get ready --you can put a Starbucks store in Spanish since you all are nice liberal and welcoming people. Enjoy it ---

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#174748 - 05/16/06 11:33 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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So now it's the liberal's fault that corporations are breaking the law by hiring illegal immigrants for cheap labor?? eek Most liberals have been branded anti-business and socialists because they want to hold the corporations accountable, which will raise wages in the long run and further stimulate the economy. So now they're damned for wanting to do something about the illegal immigration problem and they're damned for wanting to provide a living wage for their fellow Americans. rolleyes

Sounds like the GOP has become the party of whiners and scapegoaters. The party of no-accountability.
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#174749 - 05/17/06 12:26 AM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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#174750 - 05/17/06 07:29 AM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
Oregonian Offline
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Why is it that some people can not see the fact that higher wages for workers equals higher cost of production, and therefore higher priced goods ?

People who are not skilled enough to be worth high pay should not get it, how else will you motivate the skilled people to perform their best if they are held down to similar pay as unskilled people ?

Have you heard of the U.S.S.R. ?

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#174752 - 05/17/06 01:53 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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If it fell on a Sunday, Catholic Churches in the southwestern states might have 20-percent fewer parishioners
Well thank goodness for that, I am fed up to my ears with religion lately.
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#174753 - 05/17/06 02:27 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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AuntyM,

That's because "crap" is made in China and shipped over here for you.......AND most of it is in a landfill in less than one year !

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#174755 - 05/17/06 04:20 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
Oregonian Offline
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Heh, Now go try to buy normal consumable goods made in the USA.......

Oh almost forgot, that looks like some real nice stuff you guys make, but you're still better than Martha.

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#174757 - 05/17/06 04:34 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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Why is it that some people can not see the fact that higher wages for workers equals higher cost of production, and therefore higher priced goods ?
That's exactly why I think someone running a chainsaw should never get more than minimum wage. Hell, anybody can run a chainsaw, doesn't take any skill. Just think how much cheaper lumber would be. Houses cheaper. Of course Mr. Weyerhauser wouldn't take a payraise just because he paid the loggers less and had more money left over. Noooo, he'd naturally cut the cost of his lumber and plywood.... wouldn't he? rolleyes
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#174759 - 05/17/06 06:35 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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goharley;

The only reason I run a chainsaw is because timberfalling pays me nearly $100/hr and I still have the freedom to set my own hours.......

I can work 50 days in a row and take 20 off if I want, I can work 2 or 3 hours and go home if I want, as a bonus I don't have to work with a bunch of whining pussies because they would have never made it through the first week......but I can get online and discuss current events with them anytime.
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#174760 - 05/17/06 07:20 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
Oregonian Offline
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AND, I can hire other timberfallers for $50-$60/hr when I get too busy, then I make almost as much as you smart/educated people who use all their fingers when they type.
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#174762 - 05/17/06 09:45 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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"Better" is subjective.......

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#174764 - 05/17/06 11:03 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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Get rid of them for god's sake

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#174765 - 05/17/06 11:42 PM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
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#174766 - 05/18/06 12:38 AM Re: A Few Facts On Illegals
goharley Offline
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First we have:
Quote:
People who are not skilled enough to be worth high pay should not get it, how else will you motivate the skilled people to perform their best if they are held down to similar pay as unskilled people ?
And then it goes on to say:
Quote:
The only reason I run a chainsaw is because timberfalling pays me nearly $100/hr
Seems we have a problem, Houston...
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