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#174915 - 04/29/06 10:46 AM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
lupo Offline
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sard- i totally agree.....

except for including chavez in the list as you know i dont dislike chavez...
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#174916 - 04/29/06 01:22 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Solid stuff from sardo. thumbs
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#174917 - 04/29/06 02:32 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
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Registered: 03/17/05
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I don't know if the rest of you have ever seen the Tongass, or even a map of it, but I have spent quite a bit of time in it, and on private land inholdings there....

I guess it is called multi-use when parts of a large parcel are managed for different purposes...there are tree farms in the Tongass, as well as Wilderness Areas. The areas set aside as Wilderness are not under any threat that I know of, and the resource areas are largely quiet with all the Environmental Extremist legal stunts....

Most of the money being made in the region is on private land held by Native corporations, even if they occasionally trade in some of their clear-cut land for virgin timber stands.....

That's right, you heard me, Liberals like to give the Natives great deals on their "traditional lands", it makes them feel better about the bad white guys conquering the nice red guys back in the day............and it keeps the bad loggers from cutting down the trees, er...oops, no it doesn't, all the Natives do is clear-cut every tree they can get to, far worse at forest management than the USFS ever was !

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#174918 - 04/29/06 10:20 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
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#174919 - 04/29/06 10:47 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Oragonian said
"The old story about the mean white guy conquering the nice red guy is really tired with me....."


Oregonian, I'm courious as to the type of cars you prefer driving? And, are you currently serving, or intend to volunteer, for combat and go to the middle East for a tour? To act as the gun slinging cowboy, conquering the olive skin Arabs for their oil, just like in the good ole days of cowboys and Indians, is a foolish rationale, if you ask me. The difference today is that the nice Red Guys that used arrows, those weapons have been replaced with suicide bombers, A-bombs and guns, and the mean white guys (as you put it) uses guns and A-bombs. Same senario, but different weapons. We still have more of the supreme weapon (A-B), but they have that deceptive suicide weapon, which we don't. It's their version of the smart bomb. Unless you are willing to be a suicide bomber for Exon, you don't have the equal commitment to win in the Oil Wars.

If they were over here bombing and shooting my family, I would personally strap on a bomb and blast as many of them as I could. Defense of family and friends is a powerful force.

Again, since in you book, the aggressive behavior of taking what you want (or conquering as you put it) is a noble and honorable thing, then I would assume that you will volunteer for duty and allow some respite for the soldier that are currently fighting. From what I hear, a lot of our soldiers don't want to be there. Some actually volunteered, thinking that they we fighting because of WMD, or an imminent threat. They have since learned that their sacrifice was for a lie, and that it's is all for the benefit of Exon and Big Oil.

You seem to think it's kool and sanctioned by God, to go into another mans home, while killing and taking what you want. And when one objects or suggests that it's wrong, you consider them tiring and out dated, a liberal and not to be payed any attention. Sounds to me like you have dranked to much Neocon's, G W's Kool Aid.

My guess is that you are a young chicken hawk with lots of humble pie on the menu in your very near future. When we are young and inexperienced, it's a good time to observe others that are older, wiser and more experienced.

Your attitude towards humanity, will result in the nuking of us all. That's right, I included us, because we are not to only ones with guns or bombs. Talk like that is exactly whats motivating many other countries, into producing their own A-bombs. It's the arrogance of our threats of nuking first, if those sovereign nations don't do exactly as we say, handing over any and everything we want, while inslaving their masses and calling it freedom. It is because of our policy and reputation regarding Iraq, that is without a doubt, telling other nations that we feel, that since we have nukes, we can be aggressive and bully those without. If they want lay down and take it, we will nuke em. They now realize only those countries that have the bomb, can deter us from the premptive killing of innocent civilians, and the looting of natural resources, as well destruction of their infrastructure. If they don't have a bomb, then they'd better keep an eye on the skys, because our bombs will be digging craters and killing their baby's, that is if there is loot that can be looted by this regime.

We need to take the lead with example and deplomacy, in our dealings with WMD's, as well as responsible actions regarding our own WMD's. This is needed to in order to prevent the entire planet, from being rendered un-inhabitable, from the radio-activity of the collective, mutually assured, destroyers of all life, the mega ton's of bombs X 100,000. That would screw up the fishing for all us fisherman for sure.

BTW, DU is killing and maiming everyone in the theater's of Afgan and Iraq as I type. We have already nuked them, as well as our own, and the stuff will keep killing for a millenium. It's a war crime or a crime against humanity to pre-emptively nuke innocent people. frown
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#174920 - 04/29/06 11:30 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
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Have a bad day John Lee Hookum ? You have a nice signature line, not sure about the rest of your post........

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#174922 - 04/30/06 11:12 AM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
Oregonian Offline
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Ain't it the truth !

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#174924 - 04/30/06 11:50 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Yuk Yuk, Oregonian haven't you noticed that some folks on here have the Neo-socialist syndrome? In other words, they have to have some one or some thing to blame for their problems. It MUST BE SOMEONE'S FAULT. Imagine their dilemma without the Bush Administration, or the Criminal Conservatives to blame. Total meltdown wouldn't begin to cover it. Marx, Trotsky and Lenin had the sinister Capitalists for their scapegoats.

Btw: What is a semi-libertarian? I believe it was Sincerely that used the term.

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#174926 - 05/01/06 09:55 AM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
:p I hate to disappoint. Besides it's true. laugh

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#174927 - 05/01/06 12:06 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
lupo Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
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Loc: seattle wa
sardonicus- how does the cold war fit into your "need to blame" theory....didnt we need the socialists as scapegoats to pump up our need for a military industrial complex? ?
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#174928 - 05/02/06 01:02 AM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Lupo if you gave any credence to the spheres of influence that were created by the signings of the surrenders at the end of WW2 you would not even be talking about 'need to blame' The rolling of the 'Iron Curtain' around the once sovereign nations of Middle and Eastern Europe had nothing to do with a Military/Industrial Complex. It had everything to do with the expansionist aims of Imperial Russia in the guise of a proletariat democracy, Joke Ha Ha. Actually the aims of the International Communist Party as utilized by Lenin's heir, Stalin. Remember the sequence of events: The partition of Berlin and the North Korean drive into South Korea, The Berlin Blockade, Truman had plenty on his plate to deal with and an MIC or any other semblance of a scapegoat was the least of his worries. And then along comes the War Hero, Ike.
Every body liked Ike. Except Kruschev. He said "we will bury you." He was referring to the vile capitalists in America.
I could go on and bore you to tears. Worry about the MIC is a waste of time in my opinion. There are more than enough scapegoats to blame for anything one might cogitate about.

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#174929 - 05/02/06 03:52 AM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
HoleHopper Offline
Egg

Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 1
Loc: MN
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#174930 - 05/02/06 11:56 AM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Welcome aboard WholeHopper. Concise and to the point?????no point. Is that a core dump?

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#174931 - 05/02/06 12:50 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
Dave D Offline
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Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
core dump

OK that was funny
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#174932 - 05/02/06 12:52 PM Re: Solution to gas price gouging?
lupo Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
holehopper only has two posts and allready he has made it clear that he is a jackass.....dont waste any time on him sard.
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