Have you seen this?
LONG VIDEO.
Very Interesting.
true? Who knows?
Interesting though
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change&pl=true

I think that is sillier than popcorn rabbit poop.
There are those that always have to have a conspiracy scenario to play with. Like "the vast right wing conspiracy" of Hillary's. And the Aids in a conspiracy caused by the bigots. etc ad nauseaum. You can take almost any utterance out of context and spin the meaning to suit yourself and your agenda. Humbug. Hogwash and hot used hay.

I watched to whole video, I found more questionable things about the video than the video finds about 9/11.........


One good one was where they talk about the huge blast at the Pentagon shaking buildings far away, and at the same time are noting unbroken windows near the point of impact..............am I to think there was too big of a blast for a mere 757 to have crashed, or not enough damage for a 757 to have crashed ?

Too many people have it too good in this country when they have nothing better to do than make stuff like this up to worry about !

According to the former Inspector General of the Pentagon, during a private & candid conversation I had with him years ago, AIDS was secretly developed as a biological weapon late during the Vietnam war by The US military. It took another 10 years for it to be isolated and identified as it was always the related illnesses that were blamed. He also said that if just the classified stuff he knew was ever made public there'd be a second revolution...but I digress...
There's ALOT more to 9-11 then the government is telling us, and I believe, from Rumsfeld's slip up and from what I was told by a member of the airforce security, flight 93 was actually shot down by an f-16 based at Langley...but the Bush Admin wanted "heroes" so out came the big "Let's Roll!" battle cry and the fairy tale of the cockpit rush.

OK now flame away, call me a conspiracy nut or whatever. I dont even believe in UFO's.

i feel like it was an inside job.....but when i mean inside i still think that al qaeda did it.....i just think that the bush admin knew it was going to happen and allowed it to happen so that they could invade iraq...... if we get control of the house and senate back from the republicans who are hiding the real culprits(for thousands of crimes, not just 911) then we will find enough info to hang the entire administration....

if they didnt allow it to happen, then they are the most incompetent group of people to have ever led this country or any industrialized country

a couple of years ago people thought that the movie "farenheight 911" was a total lie and now most of it has been proven to be absolutely true and the movie is way more scaryif you watch it today......slam away on the movie but if you watch it today you will be suprised.

I don't doubt that one can become totally lost by wandering around in the opaque miasma that rises from all the BS that is published. Michael Moore fits in that framework. Any officer that really knows something will keep his mouth shut about it. It isn't worth his career, pension or life to blabber for the sake of his ego, even to friends. Btw the only truth that I know of in M Moores book is the name of the High School is correctly spelled. He would like folks to think he is a man on a mission, he is, it's called self-enrichment. PT Barnum had it right when he said something about there is one born every second, or was it minute?
I personally believe the hiv virus came our way from men monkeying around with monkeys in Africa. Too much Bush Meat ala Enumclaw if you will. A vast Chimpanzee conspiracy to get even with those other bipeds.
I gotta agree tho' on the incompetence of many in government. You wanna see something run in the most inefficient manner possible just turn it over to a bureaucracy.
If anyone was going to spend all that effort on a bug. Ebola makes more sense than Hiv. So does smallpox. Bubonic plague, and a bunch of other biological bombs. Just my speculative opinion.

Yeah that's right, Sard; It's all the fault of them-thar neegras havin' same-sex marriages with Chimps. They're to blame for everything. They're all Gall-durn Dimocrats anyways, right?...
FYI, he was long retired and 11 months away from his meeting with a fellow riding a pale horse and carrying an scythe and an hourglass. He didn't give two schitz about his career. He was more concerned about making his peace before Congestive Heart Failure caught up with him. And as far as knowing something? He saw combat action in Korea & Vietnam and earned more ribbons, bronze stars & Legions of Merit with oak leaves than you had merit badges. One doesn't go from an enlisted grunt to bird colonel sitting pretty in the Pentagon without knowing what's what.
When someone with his resume tells you there's dark secrets in the dungeons of our government, you shut the hell up and listen closely.

LOL.Tell me itchyrhoid are you just naturally an ass or do you work at it?
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know them thar dark dungeons are full of dark secrets. If the man earned that much hardware for his uniform he probably knows a lot more than he talks about. I hope he made his peace. Hopefully you weren't his chaplain.
Careful now, I have quite a few merit badges.
If he was a mustang then he probably was not sitting pretty in the Pentagon. Most think P-duty sucks.
I offered my opinion, I earned your ridicule. Of course what else should I expect from you?

I've seen a lot of left-wing conspiricy theorists here.
I thought it would be fun to see some opinions.
Personally I don't put much stock into Michael Moore or this Loose Change fella that authored this little movie.
Here is some info on the author.
http://myspace.com/loosechange911

i have not yet met someone who disliked michael moore or thought that he makes stuff up that have actuall seen one of his films......it seems so strange that he is labeled as a leftist when he is clearly a populist and anti-corporatocracy...... he will say the truth as he sees it about any party..... more than we can get out of our own politicians or media talking heads.....

I guess this is the second time we have agreed AuntyM...........

lupo must be playing devil's advocate...

Glad you chimed in there Aunty M. I was getting worried about you. Hope you and yours are well.
All this agreement, scary!

Aunty
"If Michael Moore really gave a damn, he'd be looking at DU weapons use and the impact it's having."


Good point. Where is the outrage?

so if michael moore does not make a movie about every problem out there, then he doesnt care?

has anyone watched "roger and me"....it would be pretty hard to say that he doesnt care and it would be irrational to call him a scumbag if you have watched his movies... i guess alot of folks just bought into the multi-million dollar smear campaign against him and never really followed his career.....

aunty- i know you are smart and think things thru and i respect your opinion but what parts of ferenheight 911 did you think was so off base or full of lies? it is all turning out to be true!!!! but those who dare tell the truth when it is not popular, will allways get the scorn of the public that is not ready for it........

"They feel betrayed."

Don't we all!

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Everyone needs a hero Lupo. Yours just happens to be a fat lying slug. You seem to be like a deer in the headlights with that guy... Can't you see he's in the club? Keep buying his vidoes and going to his movies and eventually he will make a movie about everything..If people are buying the tickets why not? He!!, he doesn't even need budget for a cast..
Give that man a shot of Tequila, with a whole lot of salt!

again- just proves my point that noone ive talked with that hates the man actually knows anything about him or his movies

every news broadcast does way worse that that every nght and noone says anything about it...

what movies of his have you seen pmartim? i bet none as well...one of george bushs cousins is one of his camara men....is he in the club too?

aunty- the entire movie fer. 911 was a tribute to the sacrifices of our troops and how their trust must never be foresaken. they make the ultimate sacrife and all they ask in return is not to be sent into harms way without good cause......i think you would like it.....i know millions of dollars were spent to get people to think that the movie is full of lies and such but it isnt true.....

aunty- under that logic you would not be able to watch one news broadcast, read one magazine or newspaper or watch any tv show or movie....how do you know that you have four proven lies when the people saying that are the proven liars???? how do you trust a manipulating and lying media system to tell you that someone else calling them out on their crap is lying......it is taking sides with no factual iformation to go on...
so i disagree that you have refrenced four of his lies.....you have refrenced someone saying that he is a lier and decided to believe it.....they have also said that about everyone who has stood up to this administration......hell they even outed cia agents but they should be believed when they call michael moore a liar?

anyway my point is proven once again that noone ive talked with that hates the man know anything about him or has seen his movies.......every soldier i know has said to me that every soldier int he forces should see that movie......but maybe they are liars too

That's a bet you'd lose Lup. I watch the bowling for BS one. He got a couple of bucks off me, damn capitalists...

Sad, some are so hungry to sink their teeth into any anti-establishment meat, especially anti-Bush meat that they will bite on anything, no matter how malodorous and tainted.
Btw: If you want some accurate, in my opinion, reportage on what's happening with our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq you should read Michael Yon's reportage. This is not a right or left matter. It's accurate, on the scene, narrative.

People Eating Tasty Animals, I joined that group in the 30's. You had to have red stamps in the 40's, unless you lived on a farm. Farmers got pretty much all the meat and gasoline they wanted. Wouldn't that fuel perk stir the bucket now.
Heck Aunty, young and malleable, thats why 18 year olds make the best soldiers. Their immortal in their minds. The ones that don't think that way at 18 are usually section 8 candidates.