Sister sent me this. Maybe you have seen it before. if so my apologies. I kinda like it.


> If General George Patton were alive and President of the USA, this would be
> his Fireside Speech:
>
>
>
>
> My fellow Americans:
>
> As you all know, the defeat of Iraq's regime has been completed.
>
> Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our
> mission in Iraq is complete.
>
> This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces
> from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to
> begin the reckoning.
>
> Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which
> have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short: The
> United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, Norway and Poland are some of the
> countries listed there.
>
> The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's
> nations are on that list.
>
> My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this
> evening.
>
> Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those
> nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during
> the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war.
>
> The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world
> hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.
>
> Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France.
>
> ; In the future, together with Congress, I will work to cut taxes and solve
> some local problems.
>
> On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will
> hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the
> earth.
>
> Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China.
>
> To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. You, boys. Work out a peace deal
> now. Just note that Camp David is closed.
>
> Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some great
> palaces there. Big tables, too.
>
> I'm ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France,
> Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from
> NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.
>
> I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN
> diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid tickets to
> sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed.
>
> I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. Pay your tickets
> tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be turned over to
> some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York.
>
> A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are going to
> be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing
> us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire
> corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I have a couple of
> extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I'm gonna put
> 'em? Yep, border security. So start doing something with your oil.
>
> Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty--starting
> ; now.
>
> It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.
> Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying darn tootin'.
>
> Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the
> world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the
> planet. It is time to cut taxes here because we will not be spending on other
> peoples problems.
>
> To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you.
>
> To the nations on List 2, a final thought. Drop dead. God bless America.
>
> Thank you and good night.
>

George W. Bush should have been put in a bag with some rocks and dumped in a river for just suggesting we go into Iraq.
No, I take that back, it would be unfair to the rocks.
We would be a lot better off today if the 911 attack took out GWB and his pack of wolves.
If Iraq needs a constitution give them ours.
We aren't using it.
Jabba - You bonehead - I think I am the only that replied because you are so are far gone it's obvious you are beyond help.

Bobber DUDE are you implying that John Kerry would have been a better choice than Bush, or are you just upset ?

Oregonian
Elmer Fudd would have been a better choice than Bush.

Dave D.
Elmer Fudd would have been a better choice than Kerry.

You made the statement O... so I'm askin' ya... why?

It would be really cool if you could answer with your own true feelings... instead of a bunch of right-wing talking points too.

I'm not up on "right-wing talking points", but I'll tell you what I think... Kerry looked like a spoiled brat who wanted to be able to say he was President one day, he seemed like a wuss who would have cowed to any threat, and therefore attracted threats like flys to honey..... Kerry seemed to change his story quite often too...

No doubt many negative things can be found about every candidate, but these perceptions are the ones which stuck with me, and I hear perception is reality these days..........

AND, I cut and pasted almost every word, so it was easy....<grin>

A bag of rocks would have been a better choice then Bush. Maybe Kerry does not look like you want your president to look but he would act in a responsible and intelligent manner.
Bush is a damn big business puppet that never served his country.
He has done so much more harm then good it is rediculous to say a bag of rocks would be worse. Doing nothing would have been better then what he has done. Airlines are only safer because people on the planes know the risk now and will do whatever they can to stop a terrorist.

From what I have heard, Kerry's military service was laughable,(though not funny...) certain types of guys are not only a hinderance to production on a jobsite, sometimes they are even a danger to the whole crew, I think Kerry's presence in combat would be similar.

You may have heard that when he got back on U.S. soil he said a few stupid things about the war (Vietnam), hardly a tough guy, let alone leader.

Hopefully the Democratic Party will come up with a great American candidate in the future...(for a change).

salmosalar,
You are comparing two completely different things, and you should know better at your age <smile>

You can not compare one guys campaign with another man's double Presidency, if Kerry had the Office since his defeat, well, let's not go there !

You can only compare the two as of Election Day 2004.

You can keep McCain...

I don't think ANYONE has ever confused Kerry with strength. <grin>

I got 20 bucks that says Kerry kicks Bush's ass in a fight.

The only thing that looks more rediculous than watching Kerry shoot a shotgun, is watching Bush run a chainsaw. Skull and Crossbones brothers they are, spoiled brats, but I say Kerry is tougher than Bush.

Pay per view could rewrite history in dollars collected.

Maybe the Bush girls mud wrestling...

Yeah, there you go.

They could do their show as a warmup to the main event.

I'm trying to think how much they'd have to ask before I WOULDN'T pay for it.

Ya know, I find that statement pretty phuqueing offensive. The guy lead a privledged life, sure, but he volunteered twice -- TWICE -- for active duty combat in Vietnam. How many of the GOP can say that about themselves? He received 8 medals, and if you question a single one of them you're questioning the integrity of the US Navy. And who the phuque are you, little logger-boy, to question the integrity of our Department of Defense? Got some major time in boots, do ya? I didn't think so.

And you don't like what Kerry said when he came back? You don't like the fact that his efforts to end the war saved hundred of thousands of American lives? That implies you feel the Vietnam war was a blessing for America and don't mind the US losing all the lives it did. That implies you're disappointed the war ended.

So why do you hate the military so much?

The fact is, you don't know any facts about the two candidates in 2004. All you know are the assinine GOP talking points fed to you courtesy of the not-too-Swift-boaters-against-Kerry. If there was ever a traitorous bunch, that's them. The only thing more pathetic than them are the people that fall for their line of bs. If you'd ever worn a uniform you'd understand.

Stupid bigot stump humper. I know you don't understand this, but I'll explain it anyway. There are only two types of people that like GWB: the stupid ones (you) and the rich ones (his campaign contributors). The first one you almost can't blame, because they're stupid (you, in case you forget) the second one is a long list of corporations that realize when they own the executive branch, they make more money, they make the agenda. You think you are being cynical and clever trying to argue for Shrub, you are only proving that you have absolutely no idea what happens in politics. You had to do a google search to understand what neo-con was? When was the last time you saw a stoplight?? At least you're trying to learn, I'll give you that. You should give it up though, it's just not in you, it requires a little (lot, actually) more aptitude.

Funny you should mention aptitude, I took an aptitude test once, called ASVAB, scored in the 96th percentile....whatever that means <grin>...

All kidding aside, about the only thing you have seen me post about Bush is that he was the only viable choice in the last two elections...not really any debate about that is there ?

You touched on a really good point (accidently ?), I am on your turf intentionly trying to learn, or at least understand why our population seems to be so polarized in our 2 party system, I used to think the vast majority of us were neat center (moderate), and only a fine line really separated most of us.........

"You touched on a really good point (accidently ?),"

It actually was not an accident, I'm truly giving you credit for taking the time to educate yourself, I think that is an admirable quality, I just wish you would do it before you post. Consider it a backhanded compliment.

Gore would have been better, Gore won. The people who didn't like Gore thought he was soft handed, there was no evidence of that until he conceded, and he was more so mired by his affiliation with Clinton. Ah, the good old days when we were so innocent that to be a bad guy all you had to do was get caught receiveng a BJ.

AuntyM,
That test score means less than nothing in my world, and I certainly don't consider myself an expert to judge veteran's service to their country, nor did I ever imply such, this is an example of your painting/spinning........

The only reference to any vet that I can think of is when I said that I had heard that Kerry's performance in combat was laughable, I don't know what kind of reading skills it would take to find me claiming expertise in that comment......

Are you telling me that 2/3 of the people, or 2/3 of those polled ?

Do you want to sign up for whatever any poll says, or just some polls ?

I am skeptical of polls, all polls !

No way did you get a 96th percentile and not be able to deduce what neo-con means without having to consult google.

I don't think Gore is great, just better than Bush

I think it's been 2/3 alot longer than what the polls made it appear, it could be more like 3/4.

The media and the gov. are like yen and yang, the only reason they have to admit Bush's higher disapproval rating is because they understand that the media is beginning to look stupid for not doing their job. The media pushes too hard and the white house shuts them out, the media rolls over too easy and the paople shut them out. The gov and the media are somewhat dependant on each other. The next move for the White House in their little chess game?? Take the cameras out of the press breifing room and close off the public even more so and dive deeper into their secrecy, ala Nixon.

I stated my opinion, I never claimed to be an expert, is expert status now required to hold an opinion ?

Is expert status now required to vote ?

Let me guess who gets to approve/deny expert applications.............

fishpolelease,

Ya, right, I'm a dolt, singlehandedly fending a multi-sided debate with several more experianced, better educated citizens with strong opposing beliefs............give yourself a little more credit.

P.S. When are you going to enlighten me on the errors of my preceptions of the world ?

I figure if you want me to pay ton of money for services which I don't want to pay, you must have a really good reason, let me in on the big secret and I'll be converted.......

What's with the personal attacks, homophobe??

"more experienced, better educated citizens with strong opposing beliefs"

The backhanded compliment doesn't seem to work as well for you.

strong opposing beliefs

More like acceptable, sensible beliefs, you should try it sometime, the times that you let yourself almost get there, you become almost tolerable, it's becomming of you.

AuntyM, By your own logic then, you should STFU about drilling for oil, nuclear waste, gay rights (admittedly assuming), logging, etc..........

There was no personal attack, have you had other symtoms of paranoia ?

It does give you a better chance to debate when you take the time to educate yourself, but then again, if you really dug into the issues you try and spar about I wouldn't have so much fun with you.

You're not having fun, you're struggling with what should be a slam dunk....if you just had something to stand on.

I stand on the FACT that you will never see how stupid and bigotted you are. Must have OCD or something.

Oh, and I have a blast pointing out your own contradictions to yourself, studying someone like you and your reasoning is fun for all, good clean fun.

You may have never commented on any of those things, I didn't say you did, I used those things as examples..........possibly you are a saint, have you ever cast a vote which would have an impact on issues which you are not an expert ?

You seem to be of the opinion that I need to be an expert to hold an opinion.........I was asked to give my opinion, which I candidly did.

Are my opinions in question, or my grammer ?

Do you expect perfect grammer of the soldiers on the battlefield too, or just loggers who don't agree with some of your social policies ?

P.S.

If I could write my feelings in such a way that all could savvy, I'd be in the Office in '08, and all them couch potatoes would be marching in the streets.............

Count your blessings.

"P.S.

If I could write my feelings in such a way that all could savvy, I'd be in the Office in '08, and all them couch potatoes would be marching in the streets.............

Count your blessings. "


Do I need a decoder ring to understand that?? That was the most senseless statement i think I've heard from you.

fishpolelease, Either play dumb all the time, or not at all...

Is this how you treat people who voted opposite you in the last election and are thinking about switching to your side ?

Help me see the light.......

It's simple, really really simple. Voting along party lines will not get me the results that I want. It takes being informed before the election to make the proper decision. Talking points were not built to inform you but rather to try and get that invaluable vote (do a little research as to how abramoff and friends used pat robertson to swing votes in their favor, couldn't think of a better example). You mentioned education earlier, I won't paste it here, but I'm guessing that you meant informed on issues. It is your duty as an American to inform yourself to the best of your ability in order for your vote to truly be an active decision instead of being another card in favor of big business. When voters do not inform themselves, you get what we have now, record deficit (trade and financial), corruption run amock, power hoarding in all branches of government, wars without cause and no conceivable end in sight and looking for more. This effects you and me directly, the dollar is dropping, we have lost our favor with a large portion of the rest of the free world, we are still no safer, our personal debt is skyrocketing, the latest tax curs will save you and I maybe 30-40 dollars and will save George probably better than 50,000. I try and vote for people who have my best interest in mind, sometimes that is impossible. You vote for whoever you like, if it someone who will back greed, intolerance based on religion, gender, race or lifestyle, if it soeone who's interest is to squeeze more of those hard earned dollars out of you then fine, so be it. That's your choice and I have no right to change that. I find that lately, the candidtes that suit me are primarily (not always) dems, that could change when they take over again and became drunk with power. But if you vote without understanding your issues or your candidates, then you are wasting everyones time and you are part of the problem. Otherwise you are what you have been accused of over and over again, and support those as favorable traits in your representatives and laws that get passed.

Keeerist, what a thread, a bunch of floaters outgassing about W. Methane, H2S, and Ammonia sources fouling the atmosphere while dumping on O. Kind of a Mongolian cluster phruque, if you will. You idiots deserve someone like Fidel, I wonder how many he would have killed here with Che's assistance to consolidate his wonderful society. Reminds me of Red Dawn.
yeetch. There just can't be that many stupid people. Take off your masks please.