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#175343 - 05/12/06 01:03 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
No way did you get a 96th percentile and not be able to deduce what neo-con means without having to consult google.

I don't think Gore is great, just better than Bush

I think it's been 2/3 alot longer than what the polls made it appear, it could be more like 3/4.

The media and the gov. are like yen and yang, the only reason they have to admit Bush's higher disapproval rating is because they understand that the media is beginning to look stupid for not doing their job. The media pushes too hard and the white house shuts them out, the media rolls over too easy and the paople shut them out. The gov and the media are somewhat dependant on each other. The next move for the White House in their little chess game?? Take the cameras out of the press breifing room and close off the public even more so and dive deeper into their secrecy, ala Nixon.
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#175344 - 05/12/06 01:04 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
I stated my opinion, I never claimed to be an expert, is expert status now required to hold an opinion ?

Is expert status now required to vote ?

Let me guess who gets to approve/deny expert applications.............

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#175346 - 05/12/06 01:08 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
fishpolelease,

Ya, right, I'm a dolt, singlehandedly fending a multi-sided debate with several more experianced, better educated citizens with strong opposing beliefs............give yourself a little more credit.

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#175348 - 05/12/06 01:11 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
P.S. When are you going to enlighten me on the errors of my preceptions of the world ?

I figure if you want me to pay ton of money for services which I don't want to pay, you must have a really good reason, let me in on the big secret and I'll be converted.......

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#175350 - 05/12/06 01:14 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
What's with the personal attacks, homophobe??

"more experienced, better educated citizens with strong opposing beliefs"

The backhanded compliment doesn't seem to work as well for you.

strong opposing beliefs

More like acceptable, sensible beliefs, you should try it sometime, the times that you let yourself almost get there, you become almost tolerable, it's becomming of you.
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#175351 - 05/12/06 01:14 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
AuntyM, By your own logic then, you should STFU about drilling for oil, nuclear waste, gay rights (admittedly assuming), logging, etc..........

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#175352 - 05/12/06 01:16 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
There was no personal attack, have you had other symtoms of paranoia ?

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#175354 - 05/12/06 01:19 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
It does give you a better chance to debate when you take the time to educate yourself, but then again, if you really dug into the issues you try and spar about I wouldn't have so much fun with you.
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#175355 - 05/12/06 01:27 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
You're not having fun, you're struggling with what should be a slam dunk....if you just had something to stand on.

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#175356 - 05/12/06 01:31 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
I stand on the FACT that you will never see how stupid and bigotted you are. Must have OCD or something.

Oh, and I have a blast pointing out your own contradictions to yourself, studying someone like you and your reasoning is fun for all, good clean fun.
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#175358 - 05/12/06 01:46 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
You may have never commented on any of those things, I didn't say you did, I used those things as examples..........possibly you are a saint, have you ever cast a vote which would have an impact on issues which you are not an expert ?

You seem to be of the opinion that I need to be an expert to hold an opinion.........I was asked to give my opinion, which I candidly did.

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#175360 - 05/12/06 01:54 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Are my opinions in question, or my grammer ?

Do you expect perfect grammer of the soldiers on the battlefield too, or just loggers who don't agree with some of your social policies ?

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#175361 - 05/12/06 01:57 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
P.S.

If I could write my feelings in such a way that all could savvy, I'd be in the Office in '08, and all them couch potatoes would be marching in the streets.............

Count your blessings.

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#175362 - 05/12/06 02:01 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
"P.S.

If I could write my feelings in such a way that all could savvy, I'd be in the Office in '08, and all them couch potatoes would be marching in the streets.............

Count your blessings. "


Do I need a decoder ring to understand that?? That was the most senseless statement i think I've heard from you.
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#175363 - 05/12/06 02:10 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
fishpolelease, Either play dumb all the time, or not at all...

Is this how you treat people who voted opposite you in the last election and are thinking about switching to your side ?

Help me see the light.......

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#175364 - 05/12/06 03:38 AM Re: Wishful Thinking.
fishpolelease Offline
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Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 404
Loc: port ludlow
It's simple, really really simple. Voting along party lines will not get me the results that I want. It takes being informed before the election to make the proper decision. Talking points were not built to inform you but rather to try and get that invaluable vote (do a little research as to how abramoff and friends used pat robertson to swing votes in their favor, couldn't think of a better example). You mentioned education earlier, I won't paste it here, but I'm guessing that you meant informed on issues. It is your duty as an American to inform yourself to the best of your ability in order for your vote to truly be an active decision instead of being another card in favor of big business. When voters do not inform themselves, you get what we have now, record deficit (trade and financial), corruption run amock, power hoarding in all branches of government, wars without cause and no conceivable end in sight and looking for more. This effects you and me directly, the dollar is dropping, we have lost our favor with a large portion of the rest of the free world, we are still no safer, our personal debt is skyrocketing, the latest tax curs will save you and I maybe 30-40 dollars and will save George probably better than 50,000. I try and vote for people who have my best interest in mind, sometimes that is impossible. You vote for whoever you like, if it someone who will back greed, intolerance based on religion, gender, race or lifestyle, if it soeone who's interest is to squeeze more of those hard earned dollars out of you then fine, so be it. That's your choice and I have no right to change that. I find that lately, the candidtes that suit me are primarily (not always) dems, that could change when they take over again and became drunk with power. But if you vote without understanding your issues or your candidates, then you are wasting everyones time and you are part of the problem. Otherwise you are what you have been accused of over and over again, and support those as favorable traits in your representatives and laws that get passed.
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President Merkin Muffley

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#175365 - 05/12/06 09:44 PM Re: Wishful Thinking.
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Keeerist, what a thread, a bunch of floaters outgassing about W. Methane, H2S, and Ammonia sources fouling the atmosphere while dumping on O. Kind of a Mongolian cluster phruque, if you will. You idiots deserve someone like Fidel, I wonder how many he would have killed here with Che's assistance to consolidate his wonderful society. Reminds me of Red Dawn.
yeetch. There just can't be that many stupid people. Take off your masks please.

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