You know what's funny?

Us laughing at the political shenanigans of ANY country.

Let's see.......who has more to get clowned about? The Dutch, or us?

Glass houses, pot-kettle-black, yadda yadda...........

Holland has recently strengthened its immigration policies in ways that Muslims claim are “offensive” and “discriminatory.” Would-be immigrants will now have to pay 350 euros ($430) to take a “civic integration examination,” must already speak Dutch, and must indicate a willingness to live in a country in which nude beaches and homosexual marriage are legal.

heres another quote:
Some have called her the Dutch Salman Rushdie. In paid advertisements, more than 100 Dutch writers have offered her support.


the above is right out of the national review........
even the one from ny times is an opinion
piece....
and peaktalk is no more trustworthy than frontpage.....

do you have anythinng from outside of anncoulterville??????? because so far there is nothign to show that it was the dutch kicking her out for being outspoken.... she has created some enemies by speaking the truth about islam and the dutch govt even sent bodyguards to protect her.......

there is nothing in any of the articles to show that she was kicked out for the reasons that sard says......sorry aunty but your not right and neither is sard.......

read the racematters article aunty.....it proves my point exactly
here, you can start with this sentence
Some have called her the Dutch Salman Rushdie. In paid advertisements, more than 100 Dutch writers have offered her support.

how in the hell am i trying to turn this into a partisan arguement? have you lost your mind? there has been absolutely no mention of dems or republicans......get real

there is nothing partisan there except an article trying to make a ploitical wedge out a non-issue....and gullible people like you believing it. have you been to holland? do you have any experience with that culture? or are you another book expert???

in fact i would be willing to bet that this thread is the first that you have heard of aayan!!! soem of us have known who she is for a long time and know enough about her to know that the frontpage article is full of crap...

she is a wonderful woman doing hard work, but saying that the dutch are to blame for her critics horrible threats is crazy....the dutch gave her the right to free speach. they are not keeping her down or forcing her out for her opinions.........its just that squeeky wheels get greased and when it comes to illegal documents when your a politician, they often get greased by their own party.......

I'm not sure I understand what the point being argued is? I read an article that asserted the Dutch may have unfairly treated an Islamic woman... So what? What's that supposed to tell me? So the article I referenced above is an opinion piece... Again, so what? It still doesn't change the fact that neither "side" of this issue being "argued" means anything. Rather than focusing how other countries are struggling to deal with the Islamic world why don't we try to improve our own. I would suggest by stopping the occupation of Iraq... But I'm just looney like that!

I would also say that drawing a conclusion based on that article that the Dutch are licking Islamic sandals is quite a leap. I would hope you are a little more in tune with Dutch politics to make such an assertion. I have my doubts though!

Your Granddaughter may be able to connect the dots faster than Lupo but would it make a picture?

You know what. I agree Aunty M. I have thought that Lupo wasn't responding in his usual fashion. I hope I am not a part of the problem. What Aunty M said.

Slate Update:

http://www.slate.com/id/2142147/?nav=fo

I recant from my original post about this not being relevant. I still believe it is looking at the issue of Islam in Europe through a microscope and making a diagnosis. However, it is an issue every person at some point or another is going to need to grapple with. How do we deal with fundamentalists in religion? We really have turned our backs on the issue over the years including within our own borders.

We have all been witness to the fundamentalist hysteria both Christian and Islamic. As an agnostic I find it concerning. In my mind it only reinforces how imperative it is to keep the separation of Church and State! If that were true the concern then becomes how does the State deal with the radicals without completely disenfranchising them?

It is a complex issue that cannot be dealt with by force nor can it continue to be ignored. I trust when we look through the microscope at other countries successes and failures we consider the bigger picture. I also suggest we do the same with our own politics...

You're right in that there are plenty of religious nuts and cults floating around society in this country. Brings to mind Jim Jones and the Jonesville atrocity. Of course then there is Waco, and the Antelope Valley, Oregon "if it feels good, do it" followers of the Maharishi Urea Mildew or whatever his name is/was. And that's probably only scratching the surface. Wonder when they will want to parole Charles Manson and friends?

Any body ever get a chance to watch that Benny Hinn guy slap his pilgrims around with that silk sport coat of his? Talk about nuts. How can we profess freedom of religion without letting some of these wackos run loose across the christian broadcast network monitors? Can we just add a little clause that says you're free to practice as long as you don't hurt anyone?