#181545 - 01/13/03 03:14 AM
Overnight Halibut
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Parr
Registered: 08/03/99
Posts: 56
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon, USA
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Has anyone taken an overnight halibut charter out of Homer to get two limits?  I'm considering doing this in June. The price seems like a great deal. Any info would be appreciated.
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#181546 - 01/13/03 03:03 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Spawner
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
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ive never done that, but when i worked for a fish tender in alaska, i would throw my 250# line over and leave it over night..only caught rockfish doing that, but its still fun..
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#181547 - 01/14/03 08:54 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Registered: 05/27/99
Posts: 186
Loc: Forks, WA
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We have a friend that does this out of Valdez in Prince William Sound every year and he raves about it. It sounds like a lot of fun and isn't very expensive especially with a larger group. I haven't done it my self but will this summer on my Dad's boat when we go on our spring hunt. I would go for it!! 
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#181548 - 01/14/03 10:30 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 8
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In regard to the overnight halibut trip... I have taken this trip out of Homer before. Not only that, but in fairly recent history, I have been A deckhand on some of the charte boat there as well. During these experiences, I've come to appreciate the "you get what you pay for" phrase. Personally I would never take another of those "overnighter" halibut trips, unless you went way out to the Barren Is. or perhapsaround to Port Dick or Gore Pt. for rock fish and lings. A trip like that will certainly be no bargain. Look, those skippers and charter outfits know that the only thing cheaper than a fisherman is two fishermen. Here's what i would do... Go down to the Spit, Right behind The Salty Dawg Saloon is Silver Fox Charters Ask for Mike Swan He has his own boat called "The Brazen". The charter office books his boat for him. He does do private parties as well. In my opinion, He is the the poo so take a wiff. Although, he's not the cheapest around, you will be far more happier fishing with him rather than the cheapo special. Maybe you should try both, so that you know what I'm talking about. That's how I learned. It was kind of an expensive lesson though. Good luck, Ragnar
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#181549 - 01/14/03 01:56 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 10/18/02
Posts: 132
Loc: under the sea
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Hey newbie Ragnar....sounds like you're trying to get in some free advertising. I haven't met a cheap fisherman??  Seems like you are trying to dump on the halibut fishermen out of Homer. Didn't like your job??
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#181551 - 01/14/03 07:50 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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What is an overnighter with two limits? Does that mean one limit before midnight and another after midnight or ?
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#181552 - 01/15/03 12:12 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Parr
Registered: 08/03/99
Posts: 56
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon, USA
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An overnighter is just that: two limts, one before midnight and one after midnight. The trip lasts from 5:00pm to 9:00am. Cost is a little more than a regular full day trip.
My concern is that the capatin will go to the chicken hole so everyone can fill their daily limits easily. I'd prefer some BEEEEg ones!
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#181553 - 01/15/03 12:49 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
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OB, couple things to think about, 1) halibut under 100 lbs. are considered chickens and are far better eating then "barn doors", 2) most places charge by the pound to process your catch, (at least in S.E. probably up there too) 4 barn doors could get expensive, 3) if you fly, you'll probably be charged for extra baggage, and last, the BEEEEEG ones are ALL female which lay 2-4 million eggs, and imho are much more valuable for reproducing then for taking a picture of, then throwing out when you realize what your stuck with. Just something to think about.
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#181554 - 01/15/03 03:01 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/19/00
Posts: 181
Loc: Homer, Alaska
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Hey all, I've lived in Homer all my life and work on one of the aforementioned half day boats. The basic idea of a half day trip or overnight is alot of people and alot of fish. On our half day trips we need to catch 40 halibut in about 1.5 hours of fishing time. Those who think that catching 40 halibut and having them all over 100 pounds is possible in that time frame are grossly mistaken, and a sign in our office states that our average fish caught is 10-30 pounds. The same idea is essentially true for an overnight trip, except that on that the skipper is looking to catch 80 to 100 halbut in about six hours of fishing time. Big fish are not found swimming around in school by the hundred, so if you're looking for big fish this is not the way to go. There have been many days as well that we've had better size averages on a half day trip than many of the full day six - packs, this is where choosing the right captain is essential, and Mike Swan is one of the top as Ragnar stated previously.
-Ragnar- did you fish on the Jackpot or the Sizzler? If it was on the Jackpot you should have fished with me.
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#181557 - 01/15/03 03:47 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 306
Loc: hermanghardtke@yahoo.com
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Been there, done the overnight, done the full day. Both trips were good! IMHO u get what you pay for if you do some homework first. Sounds like some good advice here to me. After the airfare, lodging etc. the fishing isn't the place to try and save $25 or $50. The weather can blow up in a few hours and you don't want to be on something your uncomfortable with either. If these two guys are willing to take the time to give some tips I'd keep em on the pute till they got tired of me! herm P.S. Welcome to the board I appreciate your input and believeve quality is in the ingrediants and not in the quantity of posts, or time on the board. h 
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#181558 - 01/15/03 04:55 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Dazed and Confused
Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6367
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
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Another thought ... why Homer?
Your better Deep Creek guides will put you on the same qulaity fishing w/o as long of a boat ride and generally in a six-pack instead of a party boat setting which makes for a much more personable trip!
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#181559 - 01/15/03 05:53 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 06/28/02
Posts: 116
Loc: North
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We fished out of Ninilchik in six-packs and had many over 100 lb. But also had a lot in the 20-50 lb class. They have a unique way of launching boats there using high wheel tractors. I tell ya, draggin up a 5 lb weight and a 50lb halibut from 300 ft with the tide beginning to move is a chore!!!  But oh is the reward worth it.  I think AK halibut is the best tasting fish in the world -- far better than salmon .... well maybe except for smoked sokeye.
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#181560 - 01/15/03 06:29 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Dazed and Confused
Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6367
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
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Pick your tides right John B and tides become much less of an issue for Inlet fishing. Our captain also often lauches out of Anchor Point when we wants to fish south near Augustine. We even have a section at www.piscatorialpursuits.com/halibuttides.htm that explains to you how to pick your tides and has all the tables available 
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#181561 - 01/15/03 10:22 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 06/28/02
Posts: 116
Loc: North
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Thx Bob. I have very fond memories of Ninilchik. Eagles at the front door, great weather in late June/July. Daylight all nite, and smoking volcanos across the bay. As I recall, Cook Inlet has one of the largest tidal changes in the world, just behind Bay of Fundy at around 28-30ft. We had to fish right on either side of slack tide or even the 5lb brick weights wouldnt keep us on bottom. What a thrill to see that rod tip bobble, and then wait a seeming eternity for the fish to take it. Once on however, it took all I had just to get the 125Lb'er (my biggest ever) to the boat. Ill never forget the burning feeling in the arm muscles. Also my first experience "shooting" the fish before bringing them on board -- quite understandable about not wanting a fish that large flopping madly about in a small boat. I also remember catching other bottom feeders, large cod -- and much to my surprise, after a fight of almost a half hour thinking we had a good halibut, learning that once at the surface my catch was a VERY large skate. All that work, and I mean work!, for naught. But you know what?, the fight, the anticipation, the multiple runs, and so on, even the skate was fun. Day trips to the Kuikcik (sp) for the sokeye run made for a wonderful contrast. Standing in knee-deep water and watching thousands upon thousands of sockeye, only 5-10 ft away, heading upstream in an endess freight train was the ultimate adreniline rush. Those 5-8 lbers on lite gear buzzing off 50 yds of line in a second, multiple times, was a real treat ---- and of course the time the guide said, I think you guys ought to get in the boat --- NOW! --- and 30 seconds later having a big brown bear and two large cubs come our way. The mother actually stood on the rock I was standing on a minute before and caught s many (Ok, more actually) fish than I did while we watched from the skiff not 30 yards away. Im sure you agree, that once you go to AK, you are changed for life in a very favorable way. You are top on my list for the next voyage of memory creation. Thanks for doing all of this so faithfully and participating in the active way that you do. Hat's off to you! ps sorry for the long post, but the fond memories obviosly creep in. Hope others can feel the excitement too. -j
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#181562 - 01/15/03 10:29 PM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Dazed and Confused
Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6367
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
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Thanks John ... and I would like to take this opportunity to let everyone know that I AM THE SKATE MASTER If there's one to be caught, I'll hook it. Just wait until you grab hold of one of those salmon sharks as well ... oh my, you wanna talk about sore arms!
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#181563 - 01/16/03 12:22 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/19/00
Posts: 181
Loc: Homer, Alaska
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Ragnar- I remember you well, your name is Troy I believe.........? We had the same crew on the Jackpot again this year, paul, art, and I. Art got burnt pretty badly in the middle of the season and we had Jack running the boat for awhile. Anyways, hope your doing well, when are you coming up next?
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#181564 - 01/16/03 09:59 AM
Re: Overnight Halibut
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 8
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Yeah Dave, I don't exactly blend in do I? So much for being annonimous... Sorry to hear about Art.  He's a good dude. and I hate to hear things like. So, what are the chances of us meeting up like this? Hey, matbe we should take this conversation else where. How do you send a private message? I'd like to talk to you without subjecting the rest if the board to our potentially boring conversation. Ragnar  P.S. Herm, thanks for the kind words. I'm glad to see there's a lot of good people out there.
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